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antfd3s 12-09-2011 09:37 PM

Very nice. Looking forward to your build.
Im curious why not consider GTMS cb?

SPOHN 12-09-2011 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1443064)
fvck fedex! they tried to deliver one of the boxes and sent the other to a local store for me to pick up.. FUUUUUU x 100000

Good lord

Ron 12-09-2011 10:29 PM

BOOYYAAAA!!!


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...3/DSC00426.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...3/DSC00425.jpg

Ron 12-09-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antfd3s (Post 1443864)
Very nice. Looking forward to your build.
Im curious why not consider GTMS cb?

No reason, I like the look of the FI exhaust better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 1443872)
Good lord

Yeah I asked for both boxes to be held and they forgot about one... they fixed it at least.

Ron 12-09-2011 10:34 PM

Tomorrow I am gonna go over all the parts against the VERY detailed packing list that GTM sent. I'll try to take all the exhaust parts to the coater as well. Tons of pics tomorrow, for now:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...3/DSC00429.jpg
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Ron 12-09-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sojirovskensi (Post 1436427)
When the build is complete, I will visit you!!!!
so jealous

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1436184)
Ron, super jealous! good luck with the build. i like all the parts you picked, and im happy you are local. be nice to see this beast when its all wrapped up.


You both are welcome to drop by any time :tiphat:

B.A.Q 12-09-2011 10:43 PM

wow I don't think I'll be able to sleep if that was in my garage :P
into more update, good luck Ron

SPOHN 12-09-2011 10:55 PM

I'm jealous

Footloose301 12-10-2011 03:28 AM

Me too.

roplusbee 12-10-2011 01:49 PM

Awesome!

Ron 12-10-2011 02:05 PM

I'm going through everything right now. Sam has already called me 3 times to check how I'm doing and if everything is ok... I really am speechless... Even the zip lock bags are heavy duty, there are more packing peanuts and bubble wrap than there are parts. I really don't see why anyone would buy from someone else. I'm taking tons of pics. I will upload once I'm done.

Footloose301 12-10-2011 03:07 PM

That's awesome. The suspense is building!

Ron 12-10-2011 05:32 PM

Uploading pics to photobucket now

Ron 12-10-2011 05:59 PM

Here we go! If anybody wants to see something in specific I'll go dig it out and take pics :D

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n.../DSC004282.jpg

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Other parts:


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sojirovskensi 12-10-2011 06:08 PM

what a beauty. speechless.
i was going to go with s/c, but bov and turbines make me change mind...

SharpByCoop 12-11-2011 07:29 AM

Without question, their construction, and especially packaging, is incredibly disciplined. Great stuff going on there!

Coop

Footloose301 12-11-2011 07:58 AM

Now if only they sent a small mechanic inside the box to install the kit then we would be all set.

W.O.W. 370Z 12-11-2011 08:11 AM

Im jealous. I paid for the same kit and didn't get tial blow off valves.

That's not cool. :screwy:

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

Cell 12-11-2011 10:23 AM

What did this entire kit cost you, if you don't mind me asking Ron?

Footloose301 12-11-2011 11:08 AM

Is there a reason you got the stage 2 over stage 1? I thought the stage 1 is better if you're not building the engine and the stage 1 builds boost quicker, right?

modme 12-11-2011 11:18 AM

From what I remember, stage 2 is more recommended for the VQ37VHR engine due to the higher exhaust flow. I vaguely remember someone having boost creep problems with the stage 1 .60 housing.

Ron 12-11-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z (Post 1444902)
Im jealous. I paid for the same kit and didn't get tial blow off valves.

That's not cool. :screwy:

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

I saw people ordering kits and receiving turbosmart BOVs and EWGs. The reason is bc their product is more readily available than TiAl, at least to GTM. I specifically asked Sam that I wanted TiAl, just like listed on the website, and he did it. Turbosmart did not have the color I wanted for the BOVs :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1445023)
Is there a reason you got the stage 2 over stage 1? I thought the stage 1 is better if you're not building the engine and the stage 1 builds boost quicker, right?

I was going to go with the stage 1 but then I figured, any stock Z producing 550rwhp will eventually let go, so if I'm gonna build the engine might as well build it to support more power. The spool time between the two kits is not thaaaat big and the stage 2 is capable of aprox 750rwhp vs the 550rwhp of the stage 1.


Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1445031)
From what I remember, stage 2 is more recommended for the VQ37VHR engine due to the higher exhaust flow. I vaguely remember someone having boost creep problems with the stage 1 .60 housing.

First time I hear that heh. Did that person have external or internal wastegates? Boost controller? electronic or manual? Many things can cause boost creep I don't think its the kit. But I might be wrong, it really is the first time I hear about it.

Footloose301 12-11-2011 11:37 AM

Oh. I didn't know you had intentions of building the engine in the future.

theDreamer 12-11-2011 11:38 AM

The main reason is the price between 1 & 2 is so minor and the build speed of boost between the kits is almost none honestly.
Plus, for a little bit of extra money you have more room to grow in the future if you plan to.

Ron 12-11-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1444977)
What did this entire kit cost you, if you don't mind me asking Ron?

This is the package. It saves you a couple of hundred vs buying individually. GTM Motorsports*::*PERFORMANCE UPGRADES*::*GTM TURNKEY® PACKAGES*::*GTM TWIN TURBO PACKAGE WITH 3" DOWN PIPES AND OPEN DUMPS I added to it the oil cooler, windshield washer reservoir and Fuel stabilizer kit.

They also have this one which comes with similar parts than the ones I purchased separately: GTM Motorsports*::*PERFORMANCE UPGRADES*::*GTM TURNKEY® PACKAGES*::*GTM TWIN TURBO PACKAGE WITH 3" DOWN PIPES AND OPEN DUMPS -PLUS

Footloose301 12-11-2011 11:50 AM

Plus clutch/flywheel.....

Hmmmm so much to think about.

I'm really looking forward to see another TT complete. :tup: good luck man

modme 12-11-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Latest update: I just got off the phone with GTM. Smoking issue is FIXED. They ended up decreasing the oil restrictor size by .002 inch. Everything is looking good except for the boost creep, but they offered to let me take the car home for a few weeks to enjoy it. However, since I’ve been without my car for so long, I preferred they kept going to finish it up.

To really control boost creep, they want to change to a larger turbine housing to allow better response from the internal wastegates. This change is not expected to make much impact to the super fast spool-up they are getting now. On the outside, this should take no longer than 2 weeks, but they are shooting for earlier.
This was from one of GTM's earlier twin turbo builds. The boost creep only applies to internally wastegated setups, which is what I'm running. The .86 housing allows the exhaust gas to escape more readily to prevent boost creep. When I was talking to Sam prior to my turbo purchase, I vaguely remember that he recommended going with the stage 2 since im running internal wastegates.

Ron 12-11-2011 12:01 PM

Makes sense, I believe it would happen at higher psi levels since more air is flowing?

Not related, what is the "GTR Turbo/Engine Gauges" on your signature?

Edit: I found it... that is awesomeee!! http://www.myg37.com/forums/audio-vi...peed-temp.html ..... I want...

Ron 12-11-2011 12:13 PM

modme, so its a carpc running dashcommand with a GTR skin? Where are you getting the boost signal from?

O&G 12-11-2011 12:19 PM

Dos Equis & Snails....yummy! Gunna have to stop by and check out the install! It's going to be a good Xmas for you!

modme 12-11-2011 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1445120)
modme, so its a carpc running dashcommand with a GTR skin? Where are you getting the boost signal from?

Yup, that thread is outdated. I've upgraded to the 2010 navigation system with a high resolution screen. Dashcommand can read from PLX Device gauges. I have the PLX Boost, Oil temp, and EGT gauges. The rest of the parameters are obtained from OBD reader.

Ron 12-11-2011 12:36 PM

Where did you get the skin from? How does the PLX guage provide info to dashcommand, USB? Or is it reading directly from the PLX Boost / Vacuum
Sensor Module?

Who wants to buy my gauges? lol

modme 12-11-2011 12:38 PM

PLX gauges connect into a chain and end with a USB, but you have to purchase all of them separately. You can download the skin from dashcommand website, but you'll need to modify them for your needs.

Ron 12-11-2011 12:52 PM

Can I just purchase the boost gauge and connect it via usb to the carpc or do I have to have more than one gauge? AFR and Oil temp is already provided via OBDII so I only need a boost source.

So I would need:

carpc with touchscreen monitor
dashcommand + OBDLink
boost source (PLX gauge)

On the thread you mentioned a Scan converter, was this necessary bc you used the stock navi screen?

modme 12-11-2011 01:06 PM

From my experience, oil temp is not a parameter that OBDII readers can pick up. That might've changed since I did my install 2 years ago. You can double check that using OBDlink and dashcommand to see if it can find the oil temp readout.

You can hook up just one 1 sensor. You need the sensor and the iMFD SM to USB Adapter.

Depending on your screen model and whether you have navi, the method of connecting a carpc is different. If you plan to use an aftermarket screen, then you would not need the scan converter.

theDreamer 12-11-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1445215)
From my experience, oil temp is not a parameter that OBDII readers can pick up. That might've changed since I did my install 2 years ago. You can double check that using OBDlink and dashcommand to see if it can find the oil temp readout.

You can hook up just one 1 sensor. You need the sensor and the iMFD SM to USB Adapter.

Depending on your screen model and whether you have navi, the method of connecting a carpc is different. If you plan to use an aftermarket screen, then you would not need the scan converter.

My camp 2 does not pick up oil temp just reading off the OBD, which is fine because the Z has a dedicated oil temp gauge.

Ron 12-11-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1445215)
From my experience, oil temp is not a parameter that OBDII readers can pick up. That might've changed since I did my install 2 years ago. You can double check that using OBDlink and dashcommand to see if it can find the oil temp readout.

You can hook up just one 1 sensor. You need the sensor and the iMFD SM to USB Adapter.

Depending on your screen model and whether you have navi, the method of connecting a carpc is different. If you plan to use an aftermarket screen, then you would not need the scan converter.


repped my friend.. I might do this. I'll bother you in the future with more questions :D

Ron 12-11-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1445133)
Dos Equis & Snails....yummy! Gunna have to stop by and check out the install! It's going to be a good Xmas for you!

world's most interesting turbos haha

O&G 12-11-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1445345)
world's most interesting turbos haha

:icon18:

Ron 12-11-2011 05:50 PM

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...3/DSC00518.jpg

Dashcommand on my iphone and Display out from Cydia through my HU.. wonder how fast it refreshes (Don't have the OBDLink to test) I can't listen to music or do anything else while its on though, nor can I control it from the screen, have to use the phone... Not the best option then, but it looks pretty cool haha


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