How much do these FI kits weigh?

Nixlimited · 10-10-2011, 03:45 PM

One thing I haven't seen discussed much is how much each of these popular kits weigh (e.g. GTM stage 1 and 2 SC, GTM turbo, Stillen SC, etc). Since a lot of this weight is going to be hung over the nose of the car, I am curious how much it is adding.

weiboy718 · 10-10-2011, 03:47 PM

Best way to find out is to have those companies weigh them out. I'm pretty sure it weighs less than 100lbs

Jeffblue · 10-10-2011, 03:54 PM

the heaviest parts would be the turbos/manifolds

Nixlimited · 10-10-2011, 08:19 PM

Yeah, was hoping that GTM and Stillen may chime in here.

Brazilbro · 10-10-2011, 08:21 PM

65-75lbs for GTM tt

Mike@GTM · 10-13-2011, 07:02 PM

Just weighing the boxes and/or components aren't really going to give you a precise answer because there are parts that get swapped out.

One thing I can say, is that the extra weight we do add, is as low as possible to keep your center of gravity lower. Especially our Supercharger kit...you really can't get much lower than that. Also, for the more hardcore racers, the Supercharger sits on the passenger side of the engine bay which will make it more helpful when corner balancing the car.

All that said, it seems that most people adding forced induction don't seem to be the hardcore racers that agonize over ever last ounce on their car and where it is in relation to the center of gravity. Hell, Fontana Nissan's 350Z race car is N/A and whoops a$$ on the track. I watched that car walk on their own GTR race car. So if you are looking for the ultimate cone dodger or road course machine, getting the car as light as possible is going to benefit all the aspects of road racing that make it fun. Braking late, keeping your cornering speed high and putting the power down early are massive advantages compared to just going balls out on the front straight.

But, not everyone is keen on spending $1-2k on track tires every time they want to have fun in their car. Some people prefer doing a third gear pull with 500whp every now and then just to remind them of how bada$$ their car is.

It really all boils down to preference and your intended use of the car. If you are that concerned about weight and it's distribution, don't put an FI kit on your car. It's that simple. Take that money and put it in lighter wheels, coilovers, sway bars and the like. Make it light and make it stick.

Nixlimited · 10-14-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

Just weighing the boxes and/or components aren't really going to give you a precise answer because there are parts that get swapped out.

One thing I can say, is that the extra weight we do add, is as low as possible to keep your center of gravity lower. Especially our Supercharger kit...you really can't get much lower than that. Also, for the more hardcore racers, the Supercharger sits on the passenger side of the engine bay which will make it more helpful when corner balancing the car.

All that said, it seems that most people adding forced induction don't seem to be the hardcore racers that agonize over ever last ounce on their car and where it is in relation to the center of gravity. Hell, Fontana Nissan's 350Z race car is N/A and whoops a$$ on the track. I watched that car walk on their own GTR race car. So if you are looking for the ultimate cone dodger or road course machine, getting the car as light as possible is going to benefit all the aspects of road racing that make it fun. Braking late, keeping your cornering speed high and putting the power down early are massive advantages compared to just going balls out on the front straight.

But, not everyone is keen on spending $1-2k on track tires every time they want to have fun in their car. Some people prefer doing a third gear pull with 500whp every now and then just to remind them of how bada$$ their car is.

It really all boils down to preference and your intended use of the car. If you are that concerned about weight and it's distribution, don't put an FI kit on your car. It's that simple. Take that money and put it in lighter wheels, coilovers, sway bars and the like. Make it light and make it stick.

I agree with what you're saying. I am not convinced that anyone who is competitively tracking wants to add FI to an NA engine and risk the chance of losing the engine. With all that said, weight on the track is the same as weight on the street--less is better. Just had no idea how much these kits weigh in at. Thanks for the info.

Mike@GTM · 10-14-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited

I agree with what you're saying. I am not convinced that anyone who is competitively tracking wants to add FI to an NA engine and risk the chance of losing the engine. With all that said, weight on the track is the same as weight on the street--less is better. Just had no idea how much these kits weigh in at. Thanks for the info.

Racing and risk go hand in hand whether it's modified or not...

Sure, less weight is always better, but horsepower is nice too.

That said, the stock Z has ~9.73 lbs/hp while a 500hp TT Z has 6.74 lbs/hp.

So, even with an extra 140lbs (conservative estimate), the extra power is well worth it on the TT kit.

VQStryker · 10-14-2011, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

Racing and risk go hand in hand whether it's modified or not...

Sure, less weight is always better, but horsepower is nice too.

That said, the stock Z has ~9.73 lbs/hp while a 500hp TT Z has 6.74 lbs/hp.

So, even with an extra 140lbs (conservative estimate), the extra power is well worth it on the TT kit.

good statment mike

not too mention, you can do a multitude of things to improve handling besides worrying about 100 pound kit giving you 200+whp. actually, with you statment i can say that you dont have to worry about stripping the car and it remaining street legal. sticky tires, coilovers, sway bars with a SC or TT kit along with some cooling systems and your set

Shamu · 06-11-2012, 08:06 PM

I didn't have chance to weigh the Stillen SC kit but honestly it doesn't add close to 50 lbs from what I see. Stillen manifold with built in intercooler replaces stock manifold. A single CAI replaces dual tube intake system, their injectors replace yours, their fuel pump replaces yours and sits in the back, so youre looking at limited amount of coolant for intercooler and the centrifical superchagers and it's aluminum bracket with lightweight pullies. My guess would be no more than 35 lbs net weight gain with Stillen kit. You can tell Stillen has racing background as they were very careful to not increase front end weight signifantly. However the steel bracket that holds the air filters is a boat anchor!

Net weight gain up front was a consdieration for me. I'm pretty sure I have lighter than stock frontend even with the Stillen kit as I deleted AC, went with 9 lb Braille battery, went with lightweight flywheel, removed windshield washer resevior,

Has anyone weighed individual parts of Stillen kit I'd be Intersted in that data.

Just weighed the stock plastic intake manifold. dang it's a lot heavier than it looks! It weighs nearly 10 lbs. Thats without the cover! i wish I had weighed the Stillen intake as I suspect it doesn't add much weight at all.

LafitteZ · 10-13-2011, 07:57 PM

How much on average is all hes saying. Im curious too because theres alot of speculation.

Mike@GTM · 10-13-2011, 08:04 PM

Well, the boxes for the TT kit weigh around 140lbs (depending on options). The box for the Supercharger weighs 85lbs (again, depending on options).

Sorry, but that's about as much concrete info I've got regarding weight of the FI kits we sell.

Kirkster · 10-13-2011, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

Well, the boxes for the TT kit weigh around 140lbs (depending on options). The box for the Supercharger weighs 85lbs (again, depending on options).

Sorry, but that's about as much concrete info I've got regarding weight of the FI kits we sell.

LoL... My box came off the truck and it said 40lbs... My UPS girl gave me the

LafitteZ · 10-13-2011, 08:09 PM

thats perfect mike. Just an idea is all i was wondering. thanks

10-10-2011, 03:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	How much do these FI kits weigh? One thing I haven't seen discussed much is how much each of these popular kits weigh (e.g. GTM stage 1 and 2 SC, GTM turbo, Stillen SC, etc). Since a lot of this weight is going to be hung over the nose of the car, I am curious how much it is adding. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

10-10-2011, 08:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nixlimited A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,235 Drives: 15 GT-R / 11 Prius Rep Power: 26	Yeah, was hoping that GTM and Stillen may chime in here. __________________ Car Sold! Pleasure being a part of the Z community. New ride: 2015 GT-R - 647 WHP / 641 WTQ (e85) & 543 WHP / 519 WTQ (91)

10-10-2011, 08:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 849	65-75lbs for GTM tt __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD

06-11-2012, 08:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Shamu A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,059 Drives: 370Z Racecar Rep Power: 20	I didn't have chance to weigh the Stillen SC kit but honestly it doesn't add close to 50 lbs from what I see. Stillen manifold with built in intercooler replaces stock manifold. A single CAI replaces dual tube intake system, their injectors replace yours, their fuel pump replaces yours and sits in the back, so youre looking at limited amount of coolant for intercooler and the centrifical superchagers and it's aluminum bracket with lightweight pullies. My guess would be no more than 35 lbs net weight gain with Stillen kit. You can tell Stillen has racing background as they were very careful to not increase front end weight signifantly. However the steel bracket that holds the air filters is a boat anchor! Net weight gain up front was a consdieration for me. I'm pretty sure I have lighter than stock frontend even with the Stillen kit as I deleted AC, went with 9 lb Braille battery, went with lightweight flywheel, removed windshield washer resevior, Has anyone weighed individual parts of Stillen kit I'd be Intersted in that data. Just weighed the stock plastic intake manifold. dang it's a lot heavier than it looks! It weighs nearly 10 lbs. Thats without the cover! i wish I had weighed the Stillen intake as I suspect it doesn't add much weight at all. __________________ Grant Last edited by Shamu; 06-13-2012 at 03:04 PM.

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10-10-2011, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
weiboy718 Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 923 Drives: Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 17	Best way to find out is to have those companies weigh them out. I'm pretty sure it weighs less than 100lbs

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	the heaviest parts would be the turbos/manifolds

10-13-2011, 07:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mike@GTM Not an active Vendor. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California Posts: 391 Drives: '13 Hot Lava FR-S Rep Power: 17	Just weighing the boxes and/or components aren't really going to give you a precise answer because there are parts that get swapped out. One thing I can say, is that the extra weight we do add, is as low as possible to keep your center of gravity lower. Especially our Supercharger kit...you really can't get much lower than that. Also, for the more hardcore racers, the Supercharger sits on the passenger side of the engine bay which will make it more helpful when corner balancing the car. All that said, it seems that most people adding forced induction don't seem to be the hardcore racers that agonize over ever last ounce on their car and where it is in relation to the center of gravity. Hell, Fontana Nissan's 350Z race car is N/A and whoops a$$ on the track. I watched that car walk on their own GTR race car. So if you are looking for the ultimate cone dodger or road course machine, getting the car as light as possible is going to benefit all the aspects of road racing that make it fun. Braking late, keeping your cornering speed high and putting the power down early are massive advantages compared to just going balls out on the front straight. But, not everyone is keen on spending $1-2k on track tires every time they want to have fun in their car. Some people prefer doing a third gear pull with 500whp every now and then just to remind them of how bada$$ their car is. It really all boils down to preference and your intended use of the car. If you are that concerned about weight and it's distribution, don't put an FI kit on your car. It's that simple. Take that money and put it in lighter wheels, coilovers, sway bars and the like. Make it light and make it stick.

10-13-2011, 07:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	How much on average is all hes saying. Im curious too because theres alot of speculation.

10-13-2011, 08:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mike@GTM Not an active Vendor. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California Posts: 391 Drives: '13 Hot Lava FR-S Rep Power: 17	Well, the boxes for the TT kit weigh around 140lbs (depending on options). The box for the Supercharger weighs 85lbs (again, depending on options). Sorry, but that's about as much concrete info I've got regarding weight of the FI kits we sell.

10-13-2011, 08:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	thats perfect mike. Just an idea is all i was wondering. thanks