built motor?

Scott @ RA · 01-23-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123

Ok I didnt think there was that much more of a head ach if you built the car to take that power level. So if i stayed in the 600 area my injectures and fuel system would be fine except for possibly having to purchase a fuel pressure regualtor or something. Like i said I am not trying to be speed racer and i definatly need no more then 600 to the wheel just figured if I was going to build something for that to maybe spend a little more and give me some wiggle room
Frank

Even at 600whp you would want to upgrade your injectors over the 600cc's you have now, at the very least, and maybe do a stand alone engine management system along with a few other things and combinations of things.

DIGItonium · 01-23-2011, 11:25 AM

With that much power, the butt end of your car will definitely be wiggling like a super excited dog who hasn't seen its owner in ages.

Are you keeping the displacement? I also wonder about the VVEL system as well.

Reality · 01-23-2011, 11:30 AM

It may be in your best interest to first find a shop you really trust--to build your motor. Once you have that covered, you should sit with your builder and discuss what he thinks would be best for your goals.
*At least that's what I would do...*

Best of luck!

toner123 · 01-23-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Ok I see what boat your in. Yea defiantly a fuel system(injectors, return system)and engine management for starters. The motor is straight forward. I agree with Scott also. Plus at the time you get involved you will need to see if the turbo's might need to be rebuilt also while there off the car.

Ok glade you see what i mean, but to clear all the confusion lets talk about making a 600 rwhp engine lol I hope the turbos wont need to be rebuilt lol there brand new still lol. No the only things i was wondering about the motor was with the vvel. I noticed sam sells engine and only one was VHR and i know are lower end casing wise is the same as the DE and HR but if i was to buy one of those engines would the VVEL work. Like his stage 1 is capable of 600 rwhp or up to it say, I am fine with that, get a comresion ratio of 8:5 don't have to worry if the engine can take it now and you are done. add now from what you all are telling me, the fuel return and engine management and you have a bad *** ride. I would imagine OEM ignition would be fine, not sure though.
Thanks guys really do appreciate the help
Frank

toner123 · 01-23-2011, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reality

It may be in your best interest to first find a shop you really trust--to build your motor. Once you have that covered, you should sit with your builder and discuss what he thinks would be best for your goals.
*At least that's what I would do...*

Best of luck!

There is really no one around here that gets into these cars here. Mostly around me is all vette shops. Got any recomandations I may consider?
Frank

JB-370z · 01-23-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA

We have done countless motor builds primarily for FI, on a variety of VQ based engines. With that said, you or your motor builder will need a host of parts, including but not limited to new forged rods, lower compression forged pistons, bearings, gaskets, seals, bolts, studs, etc. A crank would not be necessary unless you intend on changing your displacement (which I would advise against), the VQ family of cranks are very hearty and have shown to be capable of withstanding upwards to 800-1000 HP and over 12,000 rpm without a problem.

You can leave it with the same compression as stock. I know a highly respected tuner that recommends it. I think I might lower it just a tad though, thats just me.

JB-370z · 01-23-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123

Ok glade you see what i mean, but to clear all the confusion lets talk about making a 600 rwhp engine lol I hope the turbos wont need to be rebuilt lol there brand new still lol. No the only things i was wondering about the motor was with the vvel. I noticed sam sells engine and only one was VHR and i know are lower end casing wise is the same as the DE and HR but if i was to buy one of those engines would the VVEL work. Like his stage 1 is capable of 600 rwhp or up to it say, I am fine with that, get a comresion ratio of 8:5 don't have to worry if the engine can take it now and you are done. add now from what you all are telling me, the fuel return and engine management and you have a bad *** ride. I would imagine OEM ignition would be fine, not sure though.
Thanks guys really do appreciate the help
Frank

You need to call Sam and talk compression. I think this is much to low, ask Sam, he can explain. Oh and I told you Toner you would want more power soon ; )

The build is looking great by the way

Edit: @ 600whp stage 2 turbos are pretty much maxed out, so is the fuel system. The rods on the VQ37 is a weak point Sam says. You can build the bottom end for a cheap price and upgrade everything else as you go. The bottom end is really what you need built to hit 600whp all day long. Sam has a stage 1 short block for 3666.00 that includes all labor. Thats all you need as far as building the block for 600whp. You will need new turbos to go over 600whp.

toner123 · 01-23-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

You can leave it with the same compression as stock. I know a highly respected tuner that recommends it. I think I might lower it just a tad though, thats just me.

I think he was more along the lines saying that because I said i wanted to lower the compresion and was telling me what i would need to do that. I am not to savy with rebuilding a motor.
Frank

Reality · 01-23-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123

There is really no one around here that gets into these cars here. Mostly around me is all vette shops. Got any recomandations I may consider?
Frank

Just noticed you are in VA.. You should definitely consider speaking with Hal@Dynosty (Hal@Injected) They have a great/solid reputation..
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toner123 · 01-23-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

You need to call Sam and talk compression. I think this is much to low, ask Sam, he can explain. Oh and I told you Toner you would want more power soon ; )

The build is looking great by the way

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LOL ITS CRACK. **** should be illegal lol. I sent sam a email about this a while ago maybe a month or so he never got back to me. I have the money right now to do it if I really wanted to, but not really needed. Something I want done when the winter hits and my car is just chillin in the garage. Don't want to risk spring and summer again like I did last year. Ohh also can you explain why that would be a little to low? I thought from reading google lol 8:5 was a very good compression ratio for FI cars.
Frank

toner123 · 01-23-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reality

Just noticed you are in VA.. You should definitely consider speaking with Hal@Dynosty (Hal@Injected) They have a great/solid reputation..
Build Your Engine! - MY350Z.COM Forums
350Z Parts, Performance Auto Parts, Aftermarket Auto Parts, Performance Racing Parts, Honda S2000, EVO Parts, GT-R Parts, G35 Parts

I most def will. Never heard of them but i will browse that thread and give them a call tomorrow to introduce my self. Thank you reality
Frank

Reality · 01-23-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by toner123

I most def will. Never heard of them but i will browse that thread and give them a call tomorrow to introduce my self. Thank you reality
Frank

No worries

Oh this is hal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=c0izKpQsk90

toner123 · 01-23-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reality

No worries

Oh this is hal
YouTube - FOR SALE! Hal's street 350Z sets 6-speed record! 9.34

I will have to watch it when i get home goverment computers don't allow us to get on youtube anymore =(
Frank

Reality · 01-23-2011, 12:04 PM

^ah yes.. Internet security ftw!

I am trying to embed..but I fial.. lol

Ah well.. his 6speed record is 9.34@145mph... Full street car! It's ridiculous..

weiboy718 · 01-23-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z

You need to call Sam and talk compression. I think this is much to low, ask Sam, he can explain. Oh and I told you Toner you would want more power soon ; )

The build is looking great by the way

Edit: @ 600whp stage 2 turbos are pretty much maxed out, so is the fuel system. The rods on the VQ37 is a weak point Sam says. You can build the bottom end for a cheap price and upgrade everything else as you go. The bottom end is really what you need built to hit 600whp all day long. Sam has a stage 1 short block for 3666.00 that includes all labor. Thats all you need as far as building the block for 600whp. You will need new turbos to go over 600whp.

Yo, JB! where did you see that pricing at?

nevermind! i found it!

01-23-2011, 11:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	With that much power, the butt end of your car will definitely be wiggling like a super excited dog who hasn't seen its owner in ages. Are you keeping the displacement? I also wonder about the VVEL system as well. __________________

01-23-2011, 11:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
Reality Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 290 Drives: '06 PPW GT Rep Power: 16	It may be in your best interest to first find a shop you really trust--to build your motor. Once you have that covered, you should sit with your builder and discuss what he thinks would be best for your goals. At least that's what I would do... Best of luck! __________________ //2005 35th SB #81 [tyra] SOLD //2006 GT PPW SOLD

01-23-2011, 12:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
Reality Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 290 Drives: '06 PPW GT Rep Power: 16	^ah yes.. Internet security ftw! I am trying to embed..but I fial.. lol Ah well.. his 6speed record is 9.34@145mph... Full street car! It's ridiculous.. __________________ //2005 35th SB #81 [tyra] SOLD //2006 GT PPW SOLD

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