turbo vs s/c

sojirovskensi · 12-31-2010, 10:45 AM

Based on GTM price (From their website)
there are only $1,500 difference between Turbo kit and S/C kit.
Then why would so many people are interested in S/C kit?
Is $1500 too much to make a better decision or they just prefer s/c over turbo?
I think turbo kit will be a much better buy for future tuning potential, and driving will be much joyful with turbo than s/c.

Any inputs why people choose s/c will be helpful to make my decision!
Happy new year!!!!

G37sHKS · 12-31-2010, 10:53 AM

that's what i need to know too.. TT can put down 2x more tq than SC and people still buy SC over TT

RCZ · 12-31-2010, 11:04 AM

There are tons of reasons why one would choose one or the other, its definitely not just price. Although that is a factor. The fact of the matter is that the supporting mods on a TT system are also more expensive and so is the labor. The idea also was that the SC could easily do enough boost to blow the engine, so whats the point of getting the TT. However, like you've said, I don't know that most of us were expecting the torque to be so much lower with the SC kits. If I had the choice over again, I would think more about the TT kit. I would also add that I love my kit and I'm really happy with the way the car behaves. I feel that the power delivery of the SC will add to the long term longevity of the rest of the components like my clutch and transmission. Another thing to mention was that there's a lot less maintenance with the SC and a lot less places for things to go wrong. If you talk to anyone who tracks their car, that's worth soooo much more than the extra torque. I've had turbo cars in the past and loved the torque, but I don't think my SC is not as good, it is just different. It really depends on how you are going to use the car and what your priorities are.

Blue370tt · 12-31-2010, 11:07 AM

SC is a cheaper install overall. I went with TT setup because I thought it would give me more future HP potential. Base HP/TQ numbers are about the same but TT has more potential for higher boost/HP.

RCZ · 12-31-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt

SC is a cheaper install overall. I went with TT setup because I thought it would give me more future HP potential. Base HP/TQ numbers are about the same but TT has more potential for higher boost/HP.

This is arguable though, I change a pulley and get 18psi. Are you planning on running more than 18psi? Not to start a personal heated discussion, but I'm wondering what your view (or anyone's for that matter) on that is.

G37sHKS · 12-31-2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

There are tons of reasons why one would choose one or the other, its definitely not just price. Although that is a factor. The fact of the matter is that the supporting mods on a TT system are also more expensive and so is the labor. The idea also was that the SC could easily do enough boost to blow the engine, so whats the point of getting the TT. However, like you've said, I don't know that most of us were expecting the torque to be so much lower with the SC kits. If I had the choice over again, I would think more about the TT kit. I would also add that I love my kit and I'm really happy with the way the car behaves. I feel that the power delivery of the SC will add to the long term longevity of the rest of the components like my clutch and transmission. Another thing to mention was that there's a lot less maintenance with the SC and a lot less places for things to go wrong. If you talk to anyone who tracks their car, that's worth soooo much more than the extra torque. I've had turbo cars in the past and loved the torque, but I don't think my SC is not as good, it is just different. It really depends on how you are going to use the car and what your priorities are.

+1

Im holding my horses for now and waiting for GTM stage2 SC

I dont really care about the HP.. 450 HP is more than enough.. but the torque is just not my taste..i mean.. 300 Torque is not enough for "FI project"

Maybe after GTM cracks the VVEL we will be able to see 400+ torque in Stage 1. If that what will happen, then ill really consider the SC over TT

Only time will tell.

G37sHKS · 12-31-2010, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue370tt

SC is a cheaper install overall. I went with TT setup because I thought it would give me more future HP potential. Base HP/TQ numbers are about the same but TT has more potential for higher boost/HP.

No SC is not cheaper to install, both TT and SC you will have to remove the engine from the car.

sojirovskensi · 12-31-2010, 11:19 AM

One more question,

with all labor, installation, tuning, how much cheaper is s/c than TT?
Will I be able to use stock clutch w/o having issue?
(I know that stronger clutch will be better tho)

theDreamer · 12-31-2010, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS

No SC is not cheaper to install, both TT and SC you will have to remove the engine from the car.

That is incorrect, my engine was never removed for my SC install.

theDreamer · 12-31-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojirovskensi

One more question,

with all labor, installation, tuning, how much cheaper is s/c than TT?
Will I be able to use stock clutch w/o having issue?
(I know that stronger clutch will be better tho)

You can run a stock clutch with either for awhile but with a TT install the engine is already out so you may as well upgrade then anyways.
Install/tuning is similar with the TT just requiring the engine to be taken out.

RCZ · 12-31-2010, 11:24 AM

^ and it requires a boost controller and more time on the dyno. There's a lot more hardware to buy for the TT.

TT will also need a clutch upgrade much quicker because of all the torque.

My SC install was done with the engine in the car too.

Flyboy · 12-31-2010, 12:41 PM

got a quote of

1300 Stillen SC
1500 GTM SC
3000 GTM TT Stg 2

not counting tuning and dyno time.

sojirovskensi · 12-31-2010, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy

got a quote of

1300 Stillen SC
1500 GTM SC
3000 GTM TT Stg 2

not counting tuning and dyno time.

only the install?

Junior370z · 12-31-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy

got a quote of

1300 Stillen SC
1500 GTM SC
3000 GTM TT Stg 2

not counting tuning and dyno time.

Wait is this a quote for an install right? Not a whole kit? If so I'll buy it tomorrow if thats the kit price lol!

theDreamer · 12-31-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sojirovskensi

only the install?

Yes, some shops will do install/dyno and some will just do install and you use the canned tune to move your car to a shop that tunes.

12-31-2010, 10:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
sojirovskensi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 287 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Wh M6 Rep Power: 15	turbo vs s/c Based on GTM price (From their website) there are only $1,500 difference between Turbo kit and S/C kit. Then why would so many people are interested in S/C kit? Is $1500 too much to make a better decision or they just prefer s/c over turbo? I think turbo kit will be a much better buy for future tuning potential, and driving will be much joyful with turbo than s/c. Any inputs why people choose s/c will be helpful to make my decision! Happy new year!!!!

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12-31-2010, 10:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
G37sHKS A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,183 Drives: 09 G37S Coupe 7AT Rep Power: 21	that's what i need to know too.. TT can put down 2x more tq than SC and people still buy SC over TT

12-31-2010, 11:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	There are tons of reasons why one would choose one or the other, its definitely not just price. Although that is a factor. The fact of the matter is that the supporting mods on a TT system are also more expensive and so is the labor. The idea also was that the SC could easily do enough boost to blow the engine, so whats the point of getting the TT. However, like you've said, I don't know that most of us were expecting the torque to be so much lower with the SC kits. If I had the choice over again, I would think more about the TT kit. I would also add that I love my kit and I'm really happy with the way the car behaves. I feel that the power delivery of the SC will add to the long term longevity of the rest of the components like my clutch and transmission. Another thing to mention was that there's a lot less maintenance with the SC and a lot less places for things to go wrong. If you talk to anyone who tracks their car, that's worth soooo much more than the extra torque. I've had turbo cars in the past and loved the torque, but I don't think my SC is not as good, it is just different. It really depends on how you are going to use the car and what your priorities are.

12-31-2010, 11:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Blue370tt Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 279 Drives: Nissan Juke Rep Power: 15	SC is a cheaper install overall. I went with TT setup because I thought it would give me more future HP potential. Base HP/TQ numbers are about the same but TT has more potential for higher boost/HP.

12-31-2010, 11:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
sojirovskensi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 287 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Wh M6 Rep Power: 15	One more question, with all labor, installation, tuning, how much cheaper is s/c than TT? Will I be able to use stock clutch w/o having issue? (I know that stronger clutch will be better tho)

12-31-2010, 11:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	^ and it requires a boost controller and more time on the dyno. There's a lot more hardware to buy for the TT. TT will also need a clutch upgrade much quicker because of all the torque. My SC install was done with the engine in the car too.

12-31-2010, 12:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Flyboy Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Destin, Fl Posts: 152 Drives: Nismo Rep Power: 15	got a quote of 1300 Stillen SC 1500 GTM SC 3000 GTM TT Stg 2 not counting tuning and dyno time.