Stillen FI Kit Review

370Zsteve · 11-02-2010, 05:04 PM

RCZ · 11-03-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

It just keeps getting funnier and funnier, doesn't it?

Didn't mean to thread jack, I'll post something if I have time.

red6spd · 11-03-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

What do you think that "fully bolted" setup cost? You have to subtract that from the 8K and realise there isn't any other way to get that 60 hp w/o paying more. For me SC's kinda hit a sweet spot where you can get away without a lot of extra drivetrain mods simply because they tend to fall somewhere in between twin turbos and full bolt-ons.

My full bolt-on setup cost me about $2800. So for another $5200 you get about 50-60hp... Whats your point????

Buddy Revell · 11-03-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

My full bolt-on setup cost me about $2800. So for another $5200 you get about 50-60hp... Whats your point????

The mid-range power and torque (where it really matters on street driven cars) w/ bolt-ons are a lot less, though.

red6spd · 11-03-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

The mid-range power and torque (where it really matters on street driven cars) w/ bolt-ons are a lot less, though.

Totally agree... And a SC Z would bend my Z over a guard rail with no prob... But the price does not justify the added power. TT will deff be my choice in the future (hopefully in about a year or two) dont tell the gf LOL.

Lug · 11-03-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

My full bolt-on setup cost me about $2800. So for another $5200 you get about 50-60hp... Whats your point????

Can you get that 60 hp above bolt-ons any other way that cheaper than an SC is my point. A twin turbo setup is gonna run about 11K and you are gonna need a lot of supporting mods (transmission upgrades, etc) to support the power levels. If you limit the power on a TT to what the stock stuff can handle, you've spent a lot more money to get the same performance. So, if your target is just around a 100 hp boost, an SC setup makes the most sense.

red6spd · 11-03-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

Can you get that 60 hp above bolt-ons any other way that cheaper than an SC is my point. A twin turbo setup is gonna run about 11K and you are gonna need a lot of supporting mods (transmission upgrades, etc) to support the power levels. If you limit the power on a TT to what the stock stuff can handle, you've spent a lot more money to get the same performance. So, if your target is just around a 100 hp boost, an SC setup makes the most sense.

Right now no, unless you do nitrous LOL...

RCZ · 11-03-2010, 09:35 AM

SC at the limit of your engine will produce less power than an tt kit at the limit of the engine. Simply because it takes power to run the sc. I think we're sacrificing around 5-7% power with the SC.

What I've heard, from several sources now, the limit of the what the car can "safely" run is ~500whp. Taking parasitic power loss on the sc into account, we're looking at around 465-475whp. To be safe I'd put the WHP level based on something between a dynojet and a mustangdyne. In other words, by my guesstimations, the Stillen SC kit should be able to push around 500whp on a dynojet and 450whp on a mustangdyne on the stock block. Translating that into what we know the kit makes at certain PSI levels...I'd say we (Stillen kit owners) can safely run 10.5 psi with good quality 93oct gas.

There are pros and there are con's to having a turbo vs sc. It shouldn't all come down to power like you guys are making it out to be. Peak power should only account for like 25% of your buying decision, if that. Specially so when the difference isn't that big at the limit of the stock block. It all depends on what you want to do with the car too. I don't seem to understand why turbo's are so much cooler, is it a status thing? That you spent $5000 more than I did for 25-50 more whp?

theDreamer · 11-03-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

There are pros and there are con's to having a turbo vs sc. It shouldn't all come down to power like you guys are making it out to be. Peak power should only account for like 25% of your buying decision, if that. Specially so when the difference isn't that big at the limit of the stock block. It all depends on what you want to do with the car too. I don't seem to understand why turbo's are so much cooler, is it a status thing? That you spent $5000 more than I did for 25-50 more whp?

That is it.
I love TT kits and almost went with one, but really power is a side result of what I wanted. There are a number of other factors to consider when choosing between a TT or SC setup.

wishihadnav · 11-03-2010, 11:45 AM

^^true..peak hp isnt the only factor...i prefer the sc setups due to the bottom end pull and linear power band..also its less stressful on the motor/trans without having to deal with the sudden boost you get with turbos...sc's also generate much less heat as compared with turbos which will prolong engine/tranny life as well..

ITOzann · 11-04-2010, 05:54 AM

this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts

RCZ · 11-04-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ITOzann

this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts

Why don't you provide something useful instead?

wishihadnav · 11-04-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ITOzann

this thread should be closed. off-topic and lots of misleading information from many experts

..dumbass..lol

weiboy718 · 11-04-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

..dumbass..lol

Was it necessary to call people a dumbass?

wishihadnav · 11-04-2010, 12:10 PM

^^why yes..yes it was

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11-03-2010, 09:35 AM	#38 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	SC at the limit of your engine will produce less power than an tt kit at the limit of the engine. Simply because it takes power to run the sc. I think we're sacrificing around 5-7% power with the SC. What I've heard, from several sources now, the limit of the what the car can "safely" run is ~500whp. Taking parasitic power loss on the sc into account, we're looking at around 465-475whp. To be safe I'd put the WHP level based on something between a dynojet and a mustangdyne. In other words, by my guesstimations, the Stillen SC kit should be able to push around 500whp on a dynojet and 450whp on a mustangdyne on the stock block. Translating that into what we know the kit makes at certain PSI levels...I'd say we (Stillen kit owners) can safely run 10.5 psi with good quality 93oct gas. There are pros and there are con's to having a turbo vs sc. It shouldn't all come down to power like you guys are making it out to be. Peak power should only account for like 25% of your buying decision, if that. Specially so when the difference isn't that big at the limit of the stock block. It all depends on what you want to do with the car too. I don't seem to understand why turbo's are so much cooler, is it a status thing? That you spent $5000 more than I did for 25-50 more whp?

11-03-2010, 11:45 AM	#40 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	^^true..peak hp isnt the only factor...i prefer the sc setups due to the bottom end pull and linear power band..also its less stressful on the motor/trans without having to deal with the sudden boost you get with turbos...sc's also generate much less heat as compared with turbos which will prolong engine/tranny life as well..

11-04-2010, 12:10 PM	#45 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 183	^^why yes..yes it was