Thanks!

Actually I believe the guys over at GTM are wrapping up the install and we should be on to tuning in NO time!:happydance: and then I get my car back!!!!! :excited:

Wow Mike, I didn't know it was already that far along! You must be giddy like a schoolgirl!!!

yep Sam and crew have been working nights and weekends to get this project finished as soon as possible! Giddy as a school girl is an understatement!!!! lol

You better not wreck the car! :bowrofl:

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MUSTANG!!!!!:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Holy crap man, that is sick, they work fast.

Id love to do a stroker on mine, I really want a TT but was thinking on a stroker first just for the hell of it, dependant on cost factor.

GTM get my vote

oh man, awesome pictures, damn we got alot of cams. Those rods look pretty stout...

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It would be sweet to have a on board camera in every corner of that car and do tons of vid's:tup: Can't wait to see and hear this car Mike.

That's what traction control is for. Damn, unicorn blood.

It helps that a majority of everything was in stock ready to go before I shipped them the car. The only issue we had was waiting on the new piston head design from Arias... I think that took a good 2 weeks to get. Again I cant say enough about how hard GTM is working not only to complete my build but to also complete all the other builds they have in the shop! these guys are miracle workers!!! :tup:

Usually takes a little more time than planned, but it's worth it in the end!

For some reason, I am getting antsy for you! Man I love this part of the build process.

Nice!!! I'm pretty excited for the end result! How many miles were on your car when you took it into the shop? The engine looks so clean.

The car had like 15-17k on it but the motor had only about 5k on it.

Mike, what are you plans with the heads? Running OEM heads? Any idea on what redline you guys are shooting for? Will you be keeping it stock, higher, lower?

and will this thing be streetable?

Stock rods look pretty beefy. Very similar to the stock Evo X rods (which are relatively strong, but ultimately pretty weak compared to aftermarket offerings). Something tells me the stock VHR could make some impressive specific output with just replacement pistons or even just looser ring gaps.

This build will be impressive - the Z platform is a good one on which to build an output monster. Well, except for the really short wheelbase... but that just necessitates more driver skill or better traction control algorithms.

to answer everyone's questions...

Heads:
We plan on using the stock VVEL heads that have been worked on by GTM with a valve job and more. At this point this is the extent of that build after we get results and I have had the car a lil while we may approach the heads again another time but until then this is it.

Streetability:
Yes this car will be streetable and will be daily driven... will it be driven on 1000rwhp no more like 600 or so rwhp on the street.

Stock Rods:
They are pretty beefy compared to the older models but again like you stated compared to the aftermarket these are relatively weak. The stock rods can easily hold 500hp at the crank and I do not have knowledge of anyone really taking and running a motor beyond that realm for extended periods of time. This platform is a great power platform and many people will see great numbers out of their engines with the GTM products!

Cost on this project?

I'm not going to disclose my costs but if you want to repeat this exact build expect to shell out $50k clams for this part of my build alone.

Are you going to be able to run at 1000rwhp for prolonged periods of time, or will it only be useful for dynos? I can't wait to see this completed

Yes the car will be able to run 1000rwhp for prolonged periods

50K! that is absolutely ridiculous and a Rip off, I would rather buy a Cosworth TT crate engine and drop it in that puts out more power for 30K. That better hold together for long periods of time for that price.

You are crazy, no doubt about it. Undergroundracing can give you 1000 hp kit for a ferrari F430 totally complete and done for 50K, 1100 for viper etc..

Wow! Very harsh and uncalled for. Its his money.

What are you, my mother? That is ridiculous, it is a great build, don't get me wrong but not even practical expense why, the car is only worth 30k. Just an opinion. don't get your pants in a wad dude

Like I said I won't disclose my pricing and for your info this kit is capable of WELL over 1000rwhp.... The build goal is 1000 RWHP and BEYOND!!! The kits you mention stop at those goals or on their best day make those numbers. Believe me when I say Sam has REALLY made this car a part of their marketing program to prove what they can do and what the platform is capable of.

I don't want to sound like a jerk but you my friend are talking out your brown hole... Those cars in themselves cost way more than the Z will even if I did the build twice. So you tell me... Spend $100k's for the lesser performance and a name OR spend less than $100k at list price and blow everything on God's green earth away?

I applaud your build and your defense, but I don't know how you're going to actually make 1000 RWHP usable. Sounds kind of like many Supra builds that have occurred in the past - cars that are more dyno queens than track performers. I believe it takes 1300-1400 WHP for a Supra to even break into the 8's.

If you do straight out admit you're building a dyno queen, then bravo. :tiphat: But if not, I'm curious as to what the purpose of the 1000+ WHP will be.

The high hp application for this car is the Texas mile :tup:

That's right... I should have remembered that from when I read the rest of the thread.

Good luck with smashing some records there. It'll look good for every single 370Z. :tup:

Btw the supra inline 6 is a totally different animal then our motors. This car will never see a hard launch at the hi power levels. Everything will be soft launches as a hard launch will upset the chasis and cause traction issues and instability in handling. As time goes by and I get used to the car we will see what the track usages will be Time Attacking or even Road Racing a 1000hp vehicle is a whole new ball game. I have a friend with a 700hp supra that goes to the track he turns the boost down and literally just coasts thru turns and then rolls on down the short stents and straightaways it's ridiculous cause I'm full throttle and he rolls past me like I'm parked. His lap time are seconds faster than mine and he doesn't work as hard. Like I said two totally different approaches to racing.

your not a jerk, it is just an opinion, you totally are explaining my point. You are telling people this build complete will most likely a total of over 60 or 70 G's plus your thirty for the car. None of those kits cost twice the price of the cars they are being installed on. There are far better proven engine developers for half the price, why invest double what the car is worth? seems silly to me. You can buy most of those lower cars for 50 or 60 grand with 50k miles or more, since they totally rip everything out of the engine, transmission, etc and replace it all with new beefier and better components why not start with something a little better, love my Z to death since I paid for it, but I have driven porsche TT, a 360, F430, gallardo, a ZR1, and if I could afford to upgrade, I would! Love my Z but there are better cars to do this too for the same price and even less if you search hard enough.

You have a great build and it is sweet, but most of us that can afford a Z cannot ever afford to pay more than twice the price of the car to mod it. Seems rediculous IMO, not cost effective for this general crowds budget but cool.

You're missing the part where he says GTM is making it's part of its marketing campaign and that someone would need $50k. He didn't say he paid $50k... ;)

Marketing is for selling purposes, that means they will most likely sell this and offer it! Who cares what he paid, he is the Guinea pig he gets at cost and if they destroy the car that is his risk. People want to know the price so they can do it maybe.

I can guarantee you that those hi hp engine builds in those cars cost way more than 30k! Even the APS TT kit for the viper will cost you 20k installed and that's just a TT kit! I know of the companies you speak of and heard of many of their car builds and they simply are not putting into their builds the amount of parts that this one is getting. They are not receiving a racing motor... They simply are getting beefed up rods and piston heads and a piggy back ecu cause if they went haltech or similar that's more than $5k in ecu and sensors. Last time I checked a full haltech or pro efi system for te Z was going to cost in the neighbor hood of $7k with all the options if I recall correcty. Let's look at Hennessy who does 1000hp+ vipers: you pay in excess of $60k+ for their kits and these guys will punch you out a 2000hp viper if you want it. Just an FYI my z cost $40k cause I bought one of the first white fully loaded Z's on the east coast. Also, If you read my first post about the cost it mentions if you bought everything at retail. Do you pay retail? I sure as hell don't. Remember you have to pay to play! If you can find a Ferrari or lambo around $50-$60k that's a 360, 430, gallardo or other you can bet it's a scam, salvaged or been highly molested and that's a fact trust me if they were available at that price I would of bought one!

here you go, took 5 seconds, only has 12000 miles so i was wrong sorry, would have done it too but cant afford maintenance or insurance and a 24 year old with a ferrari is obnoxious and only flaunting money. I can find these all day long. Economy sucks wish I was older. Anything else you want to disprove about my statements. A total engine rebuild is no different than you. Any why update their ECU's, they are ten times better than ours.

Ferrari : 360: eBay Motors (item 180530007061 end time Jul-16-10 19:29:45 PDT)

These sell in Phoenix all the time right now for 50 or 60k

here is a better example, this guy will let it go for 60K

Ferrari : 360: eBay Motors (item 220636528355 end time Jul-17-10 12:01:02 PDT)

LateralG'z that is just the current bid... Not the reserve and it's also a 9 yr old car. I am 26 and yeah my insurance would cover that to save my life. Good try eBay isn't a good barometer on what the real market price is. Lets get beyond this price comparo of used old exotic cars and why I am building this super car.

Okay, I am sorry, tell me why you are doing this.