Superchargers for the 370Z?

modme · 08-12-2009, 11:20 AM

^ I totally agree with the previous post. If you have an excellent product prepared, let us know the numbers and specs. That way we can start saving up money for it.

wstar · 08-12-2009, 12:39 PM

Just to counterpoint the above:

1) The products you mentioned are whole products designed from scratch. The designers can do anything they want with a new product like that, so long as it makes sense for profitability of the product (or in some cases, ahem xbox360/ps2, so long as you can hope to rape a profit on the games by selling the unit at a loss, but I digress). So they get to design to a given final spec up-front without many questions as to whether it's possible.

This is very different from designing an add-on part for a car, where lots of issues are out of your control design-wise, and you just have to see what you can or can't make work during engineering and testing, and then see what ultimate numbers you come up with at that point ($$, hps gains, etc) and report them.

2) For many of the items you listed above, the mfg actually stayed quite tight-lipped about any real details (in some cases, even the existence of the product) right up until launch time. The information the public got was initially largely through analysts' speculations, employee leaks, and the rumor mill. Eventually there's usually a phase just before product launch where they send test units to reviewers and have them sign an NDA that states exactly which details they can release and when, but by that point the design phase is pretty much done. Virtually nobody releases public details while the design phase is still ongoing.

If you want some rough idea of what Stillen is likely to produce, I would recommend looking at the publicly available data on their website for the existing VQ35 supercharger kits they've produced. We have no idea if the new VQ37VHR kits will be very similar to this (there could have been massive design changes perhaps), but even if that's the case, I would imagine they're aiming for similar price and/or performance goals to their past kits, so it does give you a little perspective on what to expect.

john370z · 08-12-2009, 06:15 PM

I appreciate your intelligent response to my questions. IMO Stillen and others should be far enough to give rough estimates of the gains, costs and final price. If they are not that far then it would be nice to hear then that they are a year or so away and just be honest with us. IMO the stillen roots supercharger shows a large range (3 stages) going from poor to respectable gains for the 350z kits. If that range is the same for the 370 then they could say so. I suppose my largest gripe is that there is no information being "leaked"(usually intentionally by the company) and I and others should not be left to wait for an unknown period of time and it is through my experience Stillen would benefit from letting us know what we can hope for, expect, get excited for and save up for in a time period. Maybe Stillen is many months away and it is in their best interest to say nothing. That way they don't loose everyone by saying they are a year away.
I feel like a mushroom...being fed $hit and kept in the dark...

08-12-2009, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Just to counterpoint the above: 1) The products you mentioned are whole products designed from scratch. The designers can do anything they want with a new product like that, so long as it makes sense for profitability of the product (or in some cases, ahem xbox360/ps2, so long as you can hope to rape a profit on the games by selling the unit at a loss, but I digress). So they get to design to a given final spec up-front without many questions as to whether it's possible. This is very different from designing an add-on part for a car, where lots of issues are out of your control design-wise, and you just have to see what you can or can't make work during engineering and testing, and then see what ultimate numbers you come up with at that point ($$, hps gains, etc) and report them. 2) For many of the items you listed above, the mfg actually stayed quite tight-lipped about any real details (in some cases, even the existence of the product) right up until launch time. The information the public got was initially largely through analysts' speculations, employee leaks, and the rumor mill. Eventually there's usually a phase just before product launch where they send test units to reviewers and have them sign an NDA that states exactly which details they can release and when, but by that point the design phase is pretty much done. Virtually nobody releases public details while the design phase is still ongoing. If you want some rough idea of what Stillen is likely to produce, I would recommend looking at the publicly available data on their website for the existing VQ35 supercharger kits they've produced. We have no idea if the new VQ37VHR kits will be very similar to this (there could have been massive design changes perhaps), but even if that's the case, I would imagine they're aiming for similar price and/or performance goals to their past kits, so it does give you a little perspective on what to expect. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

08-12-2009, 06:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
john370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new mexico Posts: 141 Drives: 2007 335i coupe Rep Power: 284	I appreciate your intelligent response to my questions. IMO Stillen and others should be far enough to give rough estimates of the gains, costs and final price. If they are not that far then it would be nice to hear then that they are a year or so away and just be honest with us. IMO the stillen roots supercharger shows a large range (3 stages) going from poor to respectable gains for the 350z kits. If that range is the same for the 370 then they could say so. I suppose my largest gripe is that there is no information being "leaked"(usually intentionally by the company) and I and others should not be left to wait for an unknown period of time and it is through my experience Stillen would benefit from letting us know what we can hope for, expect, get excited for and save up for in a time period. Maybe Stillen is many months away and it is in their best interest to say nothing. That way they don't loose everyone by saying they are a year away. I feel like a mushroom...being fed $hit and kept in the dark... __________________ 2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...

08-12-2009, 11:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
modme Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY Posts: 345 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 17	^ I totally agree with the previous post. If you have an excellent product prepared, let us know the numbers and specs. That way we can start saving up money for it.