GTM Performance Engineering & Forged Performance

de_dust · 04-13-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Wouldn't be surprised if this kit on Juan's G37 was the first production kit for the G37, hence the obvious fitment issues...

Too many gaps in information and parts of stories left out. This whole situation reeks...

i don't think that's the case... im pretty sure they wouldn't have a hard time getting a G37 in so cal to check fitment before releasing it...also from what i can gather from Sharif's response is that he admitted that the installation was his employee's fault and have let go of the guy... i mean i dont think it is that hard to pick up the phone and give sam a call if you any questions on installing a $6,000 to $8,000 piece of equipment, right?

W.O.W. 370Z · 04-13-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by de_dust

i don't think that's the case... im pretty sure they wouldn't have a hard time getting a G37 in so cal to check fitment before releasing it...also from what i can gather from Sharif's response is that he admitted that the installation was his employee's fault and have let go of the guy... i mean i dont think it is that hard to pick up the phone and give sam a call if you any questions on installing a $6,000 to $8,000 piece of equipment, right?

check out the other forum...I was right. "This was the first production G37 kit that left GTM's facility, and it was not an easy situation." -FP

GTM kits have a history of missing parts and fitment issues. It is what it is.

Prosport Gauges · 04-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.

FuszNissan · 04-13-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM

I think you are trying too hard, for the record there has never been any design change in our G37 kit sense day one. So what ever was sent back then is what the customer has installed on his G37 on his back in his own garage.

Here is the link

DIY GTM Turbo Stage 2 Install!! - MyG37

Enjoy

Sam

Look up^^

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Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.

Prosport Gauges · 04-13-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Look up^^

Guess you missing the point. A company shouldnt have to post ppls threads to proof fitment issues. Its in sams best interest to take the time and do it himself at his own shop. So he can have better confidence knowing the kits fit. Obvious there are issues.

LaSeeno · 04-13-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.

All that's going to do is cause more issues. Stupid people with no business turning a wrench complaining after failure to follow instructions.

Anyway, this thread screams of a GIRL FIGHT!!!

Chris@FsP · 04-13-2010, 01:09 PM

FWIW, we had no fitment issues on the GTM twin turbo kit that we installed.

Prosport Gauges · 04-13-2010, 01:14 PM

Well if you look at the thread sam posted. the guy did it in his back yard on jackstands. Regardless if your not inclined to put turbos on then obviously dont do it. The whole point of me bringing this up is, IF SAME HAD SOME YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF A INSTALL THIS WILL LOOK BETTER FOR HIM. then when customers come back with fitment issues he can smile and say NO WAY!

FuszNissan · 04-13-2010, 02:13 PM

What is it with all the Forged and GTM attacks?

People make mistakes, and all I have heard so far is every one of these companies stepped up and fixed the issues. Now if Sam or Sharif didn't then I would see everyones point.

People screw up it's human nature, but a good company will step up and make it right.

Look at the oil cooler situation, hell one guy on the forum didn't even buy one from GTM and Sam replaced it for free.(customer service)

Bring some facts or quite all the

Here's a tissue

modme · 04-13-2010, 02:27 PM

I stand behind GTM all the way. Being one of the few people that DIYed GTM's turbos, I can tell you their kits are legit. I dont think any turbo kits will always be 100% match for the same type of car. Each car has its slight variations, whether it was assembled that way from factory or as a result of an accident. But GTM is willing to help you and get things done right.

Sam is a busy guy and GTM has a lot of customers. Even then, they make sure the customer's satisfied. Of course things go wrong from time to time. But it is how the shop respond to their mistakes that sets them apart.

To me, GTM has always taken care of any concerns/setbacks.

westpak · 04-13-2010, 02:30 PM

Just my 2 cents, as everyone knows no one is perfect, and the experience doing the first 370Z TT kit installation, outside of Sam, was a learning experience for both, things that he could deal with locally were amplified by adding a coast to coast shipping ordeal with a car waiting on the lift.

That being said the issues were not extreme and all taken care of, luckily the tech we had doing it was very patient and did a great install without complete instructions.

This was done back in September and the car is still running strong without any issues.

Is Sam perfect? no, but does he try to fix issues when they arise? yes, I can't complain with the end product and we would have no issue doing another install of a GTM Kit.

semtex · 04-13-2010, 02:33 PM

For me, all of this back and forth is accomplishing only one thing: persuading me to keep my car NA and stay clear away from going FI, period. That's the real damage that these threads can/will do. Who do I trust? Which kit is reliable? Are there fitment issues or installation issues or both or neither? Aw, f*ck it. I'll just stay NA. I don't need the stress.

stormcrow · 04-13-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

For me, all of this back and forth is accomplishing only one thing: persuading me to keep my car NA and stay clear away from going FI, period. That's the real damage that these threads can/will do. Who do I trust? Which kit is reliable? Are there fitment issues or installation issues or both or neither? Aw, f*ck it. I'll just stay NA. I don't need the stress.

Very good point. F/I is a risk all the way around. From the mechanical standpoint to the retailer standpoint. But, don't let it sway you if F/I is truly what you seek. Just do your research and roll the bones.

Prosport Gauges · 04-13-2010, 03:11 PM

I guess no one sees my point! solves all problems...bye

FuszNissan · 04-13-2010, 05:04 PM

Bye

04-13-2010, 02:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	What is it with all the Forged and GTM attacks? People make mistakes, and all I have heard so far is every one of these companies stepped up and fixed the issues. Now if Sam or Sharif didn't then I would see everyones point. People screw up it's human nature, but a good company will step up and make it right. Look at the oil cooler situation, hell one guy on the forum didn't even buy one from GTM and Sam replaced it for free.(customer service) Bring some facts or quite all the Here's a tissue __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

04-13-2010, 02:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
westpak Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lake Worth, FL Posts: 405 Drives: 2003 350Z DB Rep Power: 17	Just my 2 cents, as everyone knows no one is perfect, and the experience doing the first 370Z TT kit installation, outside of Sam, was a learning experience for both, things that he could deal with locally were amplified by adding a coast to coast shipping ordeal with a car waiting on the lift. That being said the issues were not extreme and all taken care of, luckily the tech we had doing it was very patient and did a great install without complete instructions. This was done back in September and the car is still running strong without any issues. Is Sam perfect? no, but does he try to fix issues when they arise? yes, I can't complain with the end product and we would have no issue doing another install of a GTM Kit. __________________ 03 350Z 587 RWHP - May 2009 Dsport Feature

04-13-2010, 02:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	For me, all of this back and forth is accomplishing only one thing: persuading me to keep my car NA and stay clear away from going FI, period. That's the real damage that these threads can/will do. Who do I trust? Which kit is reliable? Are there fitment issues or installation issues or both or neither? Aw, f*ck it. I'll just stay NA. I don't need the stress. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	Bye __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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04-13-2010, 12:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	Sam, I think to knock all this back and forth out with customers and your possible dealers. Just do a DIY! so customers can see. Im sure it will be sticky on here. I think this will bring more people your way and show that the kit has no flaws or fitment issues.

04-13-2010, 01:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chris@FsP Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 430 Drives: 2008 350Z TT Rep Power: 369	FWIW, we had no fitment issues on the GTM twin turbo kit that we installed.

04-13-2010, 01:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	Well if you look at the thread sam posted. the guy did it in his back yard on jackstands. Regardless if your not inclined to put turbos on then obviously dont do it. The whole point of me bringing this up is, IF SAME HAD SOME YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF A INSTALL THIS WILL LOOK BETTER FOR HIM. then when customers come back with fitment issues he can smile and say NO WAY!

04-13-2010, 02:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
modme Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NY Posts: 345 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 17	I stand behind GTM all the way. Being one of the few people that DIYed GTM's turbos, I can tell you their kits are legit. I dont think any turbo kits will always be 100% match for the same type of car. Each car has its slight variations, whether it was assembled that way from factory or as a result of an accident. But GTM is willing to help you and get things done right. Sam is a busy guy and GTM has a lot of customers. Even then, they make sure the customer's satisfied. Of course things go wrong from time to time. But it is how the shop respond to their mistakes that sets them apart. To me, GTM has always taken care of any concerns/setbacks.

04-13-2010, 03:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
Prosport Gauges Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 339 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 0	I guess no one sees my point! solves all problems...bye

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