STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

DannyGT · 10-26-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris@WheelsDirectOnline.com

Another person with no problems on his s/c, people need to STOP protecting GTM so much. I mean it is clear, that the problems werent design flawed, apparently like the GTM pipe as some are saying, its the tune.

I dont know, I think both companies are great, but as a vendor and a sales guy in general, Stillen is doing the best they can. People keep knocking it, but like most have said, GTM isnt really oEric Stoltzut their producing numbers they claim. Their is no perfect kit yet, though Stillen seems to be coming out ahead on this one now that issues have been addressed.

Good to see Stillen posting again, I personally am glad to see you guys back throwing in the comments here and there.

How mis-informed are you? How about this...Dont take my word, why dont you just call GTM and have a conversation with Sam. I think then you would quickly realize who's "ahead". You say you like both companies...go ahead, communicate with them and see first hand what they are like to deal with...

Having an issue where the casting company adds to much material and the time to goto market is delayed due to having to hone/extrude the pipe is WAY less of an issue than the pinging/cold/hotstart/drivability problems the Stillen kit has/had...I would take a delay of part over tuning disasters any day of the week.

dixon cider · 10-26-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

How mis-informed are you? How about this...Dont take my word, why dont you just call GTM and have a conversation with Sam. I think then you would quickly realize who's "ahead". You say you like both companies...go ahead, communicate with them and see first hand what they are like to deal with...

Having an issue where the casting company adds to much material and the time to goto market is delayed due to having to hone/extrude the pipe is WAY less of an issue than the pinging/cold/hotstart/drivability problems the Stillen kit has/had...I would take a delay of part over tuning disasters any day of the week.

Chris_1 · 10-26-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

How mis-informed are you? How about this...Dont take my word, why dont you just call GTM and have a conversation with Sam. I think then you would quickly realize who's "ahead". You say you like both companies...go ahead, communicate with them and see first hand what they are like to deal with...

Having an issue where the casting company adds to much material and the time to goto market is delayed due to having to hone/extrude the pipe is WAY less of an issue than the pinging/cold/hotstart/drivability problems the Stillen kit has/had...I would take a delay of part over tuning disasters any day of the week.

I have never said anything bad about GTM, but you just admitted it right now. They do have an issue with the pipe, but are fixing it. Also so you know since I guess you havent read, GTM was having an issue with Hot start also, so I think the misinformed person is yourself.

Phimosis · 10-26-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

How mis-informed are you? How about this...Dont take my word, why dont you just call GTM and have a conversation with Sam. I think then you would quickly realize who's "ahead"....

Having an issue where the casting company adds to much material and the time to goto market is delayed due to having to hone/extrude the pipe is WAY less of an issue than the pinging/cold/hotstart/drivability problems the Stillen kit has/had...I would take a delay of part over tuning disasters any day of the week.

Talking to a company's chief promoter is the easiest way to become biased. Looking at all of the data is the way to make the most accurate and unbiased assessment of the situation. This is what Chris is trying to do. Stating that he is misinformed is insulting.

If you want to call things like difficult hot starts a "tuning disaster", then then GTM has a tuning disaster as well. The tuning problems that I initially had with my car were not issues that could lead to engine damage or failure. Those issues were fixed long ago. My car has been running perfectly since September. GTM has had a problem getting their kit to market. Once they start getting more cars on the road like Stillen has, other problems - like GTM's hot start issue - are going to show up... Just like they did with Stillen. Then GTM will go back and fix those issues, just like Stillen did. GTM's mass deployment of the kit and the surfacing of problems still has not happened. They have two cars on the road (shumby and dreamer)? Stillen went through that process in June. Implying that GTM is "ahead" of Stillen is simply not accurate.

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