STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

NYBladeZ · 08-25-2010, 02:33 PM

wifedrivenz, I don't mean to rag on you and I appreciate you posting the sheets but honestly man I think you need to go bust some balls at Stillen. I might be wrong but it looks like you have posted the lowest S/C hp/tq numbers of either kit. Something is clearly wrong. Either you have a very conservative tune, leak, or one of the bag Stillen tunes. 368whp and less than 300tq on a supercharged Z is ridiculous, 350z's made way more then that and that's with less displacement. Don't settle man you're getting robbed. RCZ has the Stillen kit and his numbers are way more than yours, I know a mustang dyno reads low but get it checked out.

tomnavone · 08-25-2010, 03:07 PM

Stillen was called today with the purpose of getting a refund for my kit and i was told to wait till next week. They supposedly have figured out a tune that they will release next week. Their test car is responding well to the new tune and i was told i wont be disapointed with the new tune. Whats one more week of waiting?

Chris@FsP · 08-25-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

Stillen was callled to today with the purpose of getting a refund for my kit and i was told to wait till next week. They supposedly have figured out a tune that they will release next week. Their test car is responding well to the new tune and i was told i wont be disapointed with the new tune. Whats one more week of waiting?

Let's hope they get it all sorted out, I have a car here at the shop waiting on it's tune (customer wants warranty).

Nitex · 08-25-2010, 03:18 PM

^^ I definitely think waiting another week or two is no sweat off your back at this point. I really do hope things work out for everyone, Stillen included. As i would hate to see any more products stop being created/supported for our car. Good luck tom!

christian370z · 08-25-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by g37mobbin

lmao...so i bit my tongue and said things way to early...and didn't check my phone all Afternoon/Night and seen a call(voicemail) from Kyle. Saying they tested it for two hours straight and could not get the car into the limp mode.LMAO what a save.Fail on my part.

Awesome news, but you have cause to be frustrated in the first place. Definately let us know how she feels when you get her back!

RCZ · 08-25-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

why go through all that trouble of returning when you are so close...weird. I was without my STI for like 6 months, but it was so good when I finally got it. Oh well, good luck guys.

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Originally Posted by g37mobbin

lmao...so i bit my tongue and said things way to early...and didn't check my phone all Afternoon/Night and seen a call(voicemail) from Kyle. Saying they tested it for two hours straight and could not get the car into the limp mode.LMAO what a save.Fail on my part.

Not to say I told you so...but.

My STI was down because it was a completely custom rotated big turbo setup. It was all experimental, however, the point of my comment was that my patience was eventually rewarded.

With regards to the dyno's. I made 310whp on the mustang when it was cold outside. I made 295 on the same dyno when the weather warmed up. This was on full bolton's + tune. Now with the weather significantly hotter than either of those pulls, my SC made 380ish on that dyno. I have NO doubt I can do a 400whp run in cooler weather and a less heatsoaked car.

In other words, I wanted to chime in about the gains over full boltons and tune. I think that in comparable conditions, my car has gained about 80-100whp on a mustang dyno. Thats 100whp over bolt-on's power and 140-160whp over stock. (I baselined 240whp).

How does that translate into the more common dynojet? Well I never did a baseline on a dynojet... but the accepted average baseline number is ~275whp for a stock 370z. I dynoed in at 455whp on my SC'd dyno pull that I did a few weeks ago. DO the Math thats 180whp over stock assuming a 275whp baseline.

Now, make what you will of those results. I tend to trust Mustang Dynos much more than I trust dynojets. Either way, I will GLADLY take either one of those gains. It's not all that surprising that my tune yields what it does. Its a custom tune + headers + HFC + exhaust. I have a light flywheel and lightened pulley. Oh and 93 Octane gas vs. that crap they have out in california. Everything adds up.

Nitex · 08-25-2010, 04:01 PM

^^ This was the info i was looking for! thanks RCZ

Zsteve · 08-25-2010, 05:58 PM

they better have the tune right after saying that. If its not right they have lost some customers for sure.

wifedrivenZ · 08-25-2010, 06:58 PM

I look at my Dyon sheet compared to RCZ and I am only 13HP away from his numbers and I don't have all the things done to my car that he does. Also I am running very rich so that is tq and hp lost. I think once stillen gets the tune right I will be very happy. But as things are right now I still have more tq than stillen put out in the original Dyno. Oh also most people who got their SC installed don't have a Dyno sheet to post so when you say the lowest does that mean out of me and RCZ because I will always bow down to RCZ. He has Miami drug king pin kind of money!

whiddles · 08-25-2010, 10:07 PM

here is my sad and sorry original dyno sheets

over all the car feels much better than stock.
Also I had to drive it threw some real bad rain. there was a turn where i had water all the way over my hood.
Drove it threw a pressure car wash also just FYI
I have not gotten my new dyno sheets from uprev where the car put down 410 and 300 something for the torque

LateralG'z · 08-25-2010, 10:24 PM

Here are my Dyno Posts just Sh*t and Giggles for more comparison. The car was at it 14+ dyno pulls so heat soak or saturation was no joke and ambient was 98+ so low air mass density. I bet when we dyno in 90 or less the first couple of pulls will make good numbers. The car really pulls hard now that the air was 85 degrees. I am really happy with Failsafes tune and the car really goes good.

Hunter sc.JPG

Hunter sc2.JPG

Chris@FsP · 08-25-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whiddles

here is my sad and sorry original dyno sheets

over all the car feels much better than stock.
Also I had to drive it threw some real bad rain. there was a turn where i had water all the way over my hood.
Drove it threw a pressure car wash also just FYI
I have not gotten my new dyno sheets from uprev where the car put down 410 and 300 something for the torque

9+ psi? What pulley do you have?

LateralG'z · 08-25-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris@FsP

9+ psi? What pulley do you have?

we need this pulley asap

Chris@FsP · 08-25-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z

Here are my Dyno Posts just Sh*t and Giggles for more comparison. The car was at it 14+ dyno pulls so heat soak or saturation was no joke and ambient was 98+ so low air mass density. I bet when we dyno in 90 or less the first couple of pulls will make good numbers. The car really pulls hard now that the air was 85 degrees. I am really happy with Failsafes tune and the car really goes good.

Yeah, the car was heat soaked really bad by that point, and the dyno shops fan system leaves much to be desired

tomnavone · 08-25-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wifedrivenZ

Oh also most people who got their SC installed don't have a Dyno sheet to post so when you say the lowest does that mean out of me and RCZ because I will always bow down to RCZ.

heres my dyno, philmosis, weiboy, stillens and whiddles

08-25-2010, 02:33 PM	#1516 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	wifedrivenz, I don't mean to rag on you and I appreciate you posting the sheets but honestly man I think you need to go bust some balls at Stillen. I might be wrong but it looks like you have posted the lowest S/C hp/tq numbers of either kit. Something is clearly wrong. Either you have a very conservative tune, leak, or one of the bag Stillen tunes. 368whp and less than 300tq on a supercharged Z is ridiculous, 350z's made way more then that and that's with less displacement. Don't settle man you're getting robbed. RCZ has the Stillen kit and his numbers are way more than yours, I know a mustang dyno reads low but get it checked out. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

08-25-2010, 03:07 PM	#1517 (permalink)
tomnavone Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 723 Drives: Supercharged 370z Rep Power: 17	Stillen was called today with the purpose of getting a refund for my kit and i was told to wait till next week. They supposedly have figured out a tune that they will release next week. Their test car is responding well to the new tune and i was told i wont be disapointed with the new tune. Whats one more week of waiting? __________________ GTM Supercharger/HKS Camp2/Berk cbe/Motordyne art pipes/Hotchkis sways/ Eibach Springs/ Black Volk TE37/Bridgestone S-04 Powered by Last edited by tomnavone; 08-25-2010 at 04:21 PM.

08-25-2010, 03:18 PM	#1519 (permalink)
Nitex Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 848 Drives: '13 GTI Stage 2 UNI Rep Power: 16	^^ I definitely think waiting another week or two is no sweat off your back at this point. I really do hope things work out for everyone, Stillen included. As i would hate to see any more products stop being created/supported for our car. Good luck tom! __________________ 2013 Drivers ED GTI \| Stage 2 Unitronic

08-25-2010, 04:01 PM	#1522 (permalink)
Nitex Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 848 Drives: '13 GTI Stage 2 UNI Rep Power: 16	^^ This was the info i was looking for! thanks RCZ __________________ 2013 Drivers ED GTI \| Stage 2 Unitronic

08-25-2010, 05:58 PM	#1523 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	they better have the tune right after saying that. If its not right they have lost some customers for sure. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

08-25-2010, 06:58 PM	#1524 (permalink)
wifedrivenZ Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victorville CA Posts: 69 Drives: 370Z 40th Rep Power: 15	I look at my Dyon sheet compared to RCZ and I am only 13HP away from his numbers and I don't have all the things done to my car that he does. Also I am running very rich so that is tq and hp lost. I think once stillen gets the tune right I will be very happy. But as things are right now I still have more tq than stillen put out in the original Dyno. Oh also most people who got their SC installed don't have a Dyno sheet to post so when you say the lowest does that mean out of me and RCZ because I will always bow down to RCZ. He has Miami drug king pin kind of money! __________________ Stillen Exhaust, Stillen Supercharger, Stillen Oil cooler, Stillen Headers, Test pipes, 928 Impeller, 9 lbs pulley running 12lbs of boost, Custom tune from National Speed. 415WHP 345TQ

08-25-2010, 10:07 PM	#1525 (permalink)
whiddles Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: FT HOOD Posts: 219 Drives: G37S AB Rep Power: 15	here is my sad and sorry original dyno sheets over all the car feels much better than stock. Also I had to drive it threw some real bad rain. there was a turn where i had water all the way over my hood. Drove it threw a pressure car wash also just FYI I have not gotten my new dyno sheets from uprev where the car put down 410 and 300 something for the torque

08-25-2010, 10:24 PM	#1526 (permalink)
LateralG'z Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 876 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 16	Here are my Dyno Posts just Sh*t and Giggles for more comparison. The car was at it 14+ dyno pulls so heat soak or saturation was no joke and ambient was 98+ so low air mass density. I bet when we dyno in 90 or less the first couple of pulls will make good numbers. The car really pulls hard now that the air was 85 degrees. I am really happy with Failsafes tune and the car really goes good. Hunter sc.JPG Hunter sc2.JPG __________________ 2010 Mag Black, 6MT,

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