STILLEN 370Z Supercharger System - Announcement!!!

Kastley85891 · 07-19-2010, 10:19 AM

Lets see what gives......

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 02:21 PM

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

Chris@FsP · 07-19-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

That is not the reason; I will let Kyle explain if he chooses to.

Phimosis · 07-19-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works.

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

well I guess you can say that atleast you didnt go ut and blow up the car, but I would agree they knew and were just buying some extra time to get the new pulley fabed.

weiboy718 · 07-19-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phimosis

If heat soak was the issue, they would have known that early in the development cycle and adjusted pulley size accordingly. Stillen's answer was that "customers' cars have been seeing higher than acceptable boost levels."

I'm thinking that if they have been testing this kit on their developpment cars for over a year and all of them show 8psi of boost on the dyno and on the road, then they sell ten kits and customer #3 says, "hey, I'm getting 10 psi of boost, but making 25 lb/ft of torque less than what you guys advertised," then Stillen would say, "please take your car back to your installer and have them check everything out, something must be installed wrong." Not, "please do not run your car with the pulley we included, it makes more boost than we advertised. Please install this other pulley instead." They were able to trouble shoot this issue and deliver a fix before all of their pre-orders were satisfied. That indicates they knew about this issue very early on. In my particular case, I was an early pre-order (3/16/10). I wasn't informed that I would be getting a resized pulley until after the order was paid in full, the car was in the shop and the install was nearly complete (late june/early July).

May I ask if that was your car at Stillens facility on Friday the 9th of this month? There's a car there looks just like your avatar.

Kyle@STILLEN · 07-19-2010, 06:48 PM

There is a lot of discussion going on here and a lot of it involves inaccurate information or assumptions. Unfortunately we've been buried for the past few days so we have not been able to spend much time on here. For now I want everyone to know that we are working with Phimosis to get his car where he wants it. Our engineers made this is a huge priority and worked overtime last week and made some big gains. We will be updating everyone soon.

shumby · 07-19-2010, 02:57 PM

^^^ one other reason should be the more TQ thast the GTM kit has over the stillen

Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

^^^ one other reason should be the more TQ thast the GTM kit has over the stillen

That 2 as I feel thats what we really lack stock.

MMC Racing · 07-19-2010, 10:12 PM

With computer software, companies give you software to beta test for free.

With F/I kits, companies knock a few hundred off and hype you into being part of their R&D process..

LateralG'z · 07-19-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

With computer software, companies give you software to beta test for free.

With F/I kits, companies knock a few hundred off and hype you into being part of their R&D process..

370Zsteve · 07-19-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

With computer software, companies give you software to beta test for free.

With F/I kits, companies knock a few hundred off and hype you into being part of their R&D process..

Right on.

wishihadnav · 07-19-2010, 10:39 PM

Screw that! I think I'm going to wait a while before going F.I.

toner123 · 07-19-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

Screw that! I think I'm going to wait a while before going F.I.

Don't let this thread persuade your decision, thats all I can say. There are others out there that are FI and are loving it.

I feel this thread is starting to loose it's meaning, as it turned into a battle between GTM and stillen while ether company said anything negative about each other. When doing something like this to a car you have to be a fool to believe that on first start up there won't be any problems. Companies try to account for correction of the variables but at times there can be to many. They are trying to correct the problem, lets sit back and give them a chance to do what they need to.
Frank

wishihadnav · 07-19-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by toner123

Don't let this thread persuade your decision, thats all I can say. There are others out there that are FI and are loving it.

I feel this thread is starting to loose it's meaning, as it turned into a battle between GTM and stillen while ether company said anything negative about each other. When doing something like this to a car you have to be a fool to believe that on first start up there won't be any problems. Companies try to account for correction of the variables but at times there can be to many. They are trying to correct the problem, lets sit back and give them a chance to do what they need to.
Frank

Nothing against Stillen or GTM..both great/reputable companies but yeah I'm going to wait a while and see how things pan out..that's just me.

07-19-2010, 10:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	Lets see what gives...... __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

07-19-2010, 02:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 23	So Im wondering if the tune and pulley needed updating because their IC isnt cooling as well as it should and they are losing power due to heat soak? That is about the only reason I would choose GTM right now, I know the FMIC works. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

07-19-2010, 02:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 46 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 238	^^^ one other reason should be the more TQ thast the GTM kit has over the stillen __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 19	With computer software, companies give you software to beta test for free. With F/I kits, companies knock a few hundred off and hype you into being part of their R&D process.. __________________ 2014 F150 Raptor, 2014 Mazda 3, 2015 Nissan GT-R

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