GTM Performance Engineering 370Z SUPERCHARGER KIT PRESS RELEASE

JB-370z · 03-08-2010, 04:15 PM

I also wonder if a full blown stand alone ECU would help to gain even more HP and a more reliable tune....If I was going to go with SC I would look into this, just because I would want to buy more mods and make sure I am milking all the HP out of them in a safe manor.

SAM@GTM · 03-09-2010, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB-370z

I also wonder if a full blown stand alone ECU would help to gain even more HP and a more reliable tune....If I was going to go with SC I would look into this, just because I would want to buy more mods and make sure I am milking all the HP out of them in a safe manor.

The only system that have been installed and tuned successfully on a VQ37VHR is the HKS f-con v pro and it was done by us .We have tuned a twin turbo g37 with factory ecu to about 600 whp turned around install the stand alone and tuned the car to got the same results with spending a lot more time and effort

The flash is the best option tight now it does make sense to do anything else

Sam

Red370 · 03-08-2010, 04:23 PM

Hmm... i'm thinkin Greddy E-manage ultimate...not a pure standalone but functions as one

Kastley85891 · 03-08-2010, 05:44 PM

HKS FCON PRO - AEM - win if you want a stand alone

I would be happy with free ware flashing software and rom editing and an appropriate cable.

G35s-Q8 · 03-09-2010, 07:32 AM

Haltech FTW

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But i think Osiris tuner should be enought, it's not a TT with 600rwhp +.

MMC Racing · 03-09-2010, 07:58 AM

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Red370 · 03-09-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Mine is on the way, woo!

Buddy Revell · 03-09-2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

Agreed. When good quality reflash software is available, standalones are probably only necessary for high-boost/built engine applications.

fstrnldr · 03-09-2010, 02:59 PM

A good reflash will be light years ahead of a lot of the stand alone options out there with in limits. We aren't talking about some of the lame "power programmers" that were available back in the day that offer simple tuning options. We are talking about being able to reprogram all or 90%+ of the factory parameters. In this situation until you are well beyond what the factory sensors (mainly maf/map) can handle in terms of airflow, you will probably be better off with a stock ECU on a reflash.

When the time may come that the mafs just aren't able to meter the much larger volume of air coming into the motor, or you need so much fuel that your injectors are too large to be able to idle well w/ in the stock ecus capability, or similar, then a stand alone is going to be the better option. However to achieve the same level of driveability, plan to spend some time, and some money. The factory ECU can compensate for almost any change in atmospheric conditions, duplicating this ability w/ the tables offered in most stand alone options is where a good tuner with experience will shine.

Kastley85891 · 03-09-2010, 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=MMC Racing;436025]Stand alone cost - $3000 installed
Extra tuning - $800
The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless

QUOTE]

Agreed on stand alone in terms of cost, personally I would not go that route if I did there are only a couple of units I would personally consider.
I would reflash a stock ECU everytime generally (with a reflash that is easily removed , i.e. uninstalled if needed) but stand alones do have benefits in terms of add on module support, EBCS direct control , WBo2, EGT etc etc

Kastley85891 · 03-09-2010, 04:15 PM

GTM

Are you going to monitor EGT's when trialing different exhuaust set ups? maybe give some data with a stock, HFC, TP, CB - 2.5 / 3in , what ever you test?
I assume most customers who upgrade will already have or will install at least a dual CB, but data to show the benefits other then HP and TRQ would be interesting, especially when timing , fuel and EGT are involved at key rpm areas.

Buddy Revell · 03-09-2010, 04:38 PM

Hi, Sam. What amount of boost is good on the VQ37 before 91 octane pump gas starts to cause detonation issues?

Chris@FsP · 03-09-2010, 05:26 PM

I can't wait to install one of these! Good job Sam.

Kastley85891 · 03-09-2010, 05:28 PM

^ lucky man , officially jeleous

Vegitto-kun · 03-09-2010, 05:35 PM

If you need more test subjects. (nudge nudge wink wink)

haha.

the owner of the dealership I bought my 370 might be interested in this.

he is a crazy guy

03-08-2010, 04:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 21	I also wonder if a full blown stand alone ECU would help to gain even more HP and a more reliable tune....If I was going to go with SC I would look into this, just because I would want to buy more mods and make sure I am milking all the HP out of them in a safe manor. __________________ ll Baker Tuning ll GTM ll Powerhouse Amuse ll HKS ll Up-Rev ll iForged ll AP Racing ll Pioneer ll SPL ll Bride ll Top Secret ll OS Giken ll GTM Stage 2 Twin Turboed 370z (First in Texas, Thanks To Baker Tuning)

03-08-2010, 04:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 297	Hmm... i'm thinkin Greddy E-manage ultimate...not a pure standalone but functions as one __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-08-2010, 05:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	HKS FCON PRO - AEM - win if you want a stand alone I would be happy with free ware flashing software and rom editing and an appropriate cable. __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

03-09-2010, 04:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	[QUOTE=MMC Racing;436025]Stand alone cost - $3000 installed Extra tuning - $800 The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless QUOTE] Agreed on stand alone in terms of cost, personally I would not go that route if I did there are only a couple of units I would personally consider. I would reflash a stock ECU everytime generally (with a reflash that is easily removed , i.e. uninstalled if needed) but stand alones do have benefits in terms of add on module support, EBCS direct control , WBo2, EGT etc etc __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

03-09-2010, 04:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	GTM Are you going to monitor EGT's when trialing different exhuaust set ups? maybe give some data with a stock, HFC, TP, CB - 2.5 / 3in , what ever you test? I assume most customers who upgrade will already have or will install at least a dual CB, but data to show the benefits other then HP and TRQ would be interesting, especially when timing , fuel and EGT are involved at key rpm areas. __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

03-09-2010, 07:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
G35s-Q8 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kuwait Posts: 20 Drives: 08 G35 Sedan Rep Power: 17	Haltech FTW . But i think Osiris tuner should be enought, it's not a TT with 600rwhp +.

03-09-2010, 07:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 18	Stand alone cost - $3000 installed Extra tuning - $800 The laughs from friends when you only gain 5hp - priceless A direct comparison to GT-R's is not apples to apples because the G/Z platform is not factory turbo, but look how far the GT-R can be taken on just the Cobb. I doubt on one of these Stage 1-3 kits that a standalone will be any safer or gain any significant power. As is often said with mods, the increased performance is from lightening your wallet.

03-09-2010, 02:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
fstrnldr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 170 Drives: Canyonero Rep Power: 18	A good reflash will be light years ahead of a lot of the stand alone options out there with in limits. We aren't talking about some of the lame "power programmers" that were available back in the day that offer simple tuning options. We are talking about being able to reprogram all or 90%+ of the factory parameters. In this situation until you are well beyond what the factory sensors (mainly maf/map) can handle in terms of airflow, you will probably be better off with a stock ECU on a reflash. When the time may come that the mafs just aren't able to meter the much larger volume of air coming into the motor, or you need so much fuel that your injectors are too large to be able to idle well w/ in the stock ecus capability, or similar, then a stand alone is going to be the better option. However to achieve the same level of driveability, plan to spend some time, and some money. The factory ECU can compensate for almost any change in atmospheric conditions, duplicating this ability w/ the tables offered in most stand alone options is where a good tuner with experience will shine.

03-09-2010, 04:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Buddy Revell Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 303 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 18	Hi, Sam. What amount of boost is good on the VQ37 before 91 octane pump gas starts to cause detonation issues? __________________ '08 IP G37S/GTM Supercharger/20" DPE SP-5 Wheels/ARK GRIP Exhaust

03-09-2010, 05:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chris@FsP Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 430 Drives: 2008 350Z TT Rep Power: 370	I can't wait to install one of these! Good job Sam.

03-09-2010, 05:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 19	^ lucky man , officially jeleous __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

03-09-2010, 05:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 264	If you need more test subjects. (nudge nudge wink wink) haha. the owner of the dealership I bought my 370 might be interested in this. he is a crazy guy

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