AAM Competition/Lou Fusz Nissan: 370Z Twin Turbo Build

FuszNissan · 01-29-2010, 03:44 PM

bullitt5897 · 01-29-2010, 03:47 PM

Thats right HO's one more word about the Original topic and Chris gets the baby burger!

XwChriswX · 01-29-2010, 03:55 PM

Do wha...?

Jon@Altered · 01-29-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper42

Is this a true dual exhuast? It looks to me, when he is reving it, that exhaust gas is only coming out the right exhuast pipe.

True Dual:

XwChriswX · 01-29-2010, 03:58 PM

Jon, what are the pros/cons of putting your TT kit on a 7AT, or do you see it even possible?

LiquidZ · 01-29-2010, 04:00 PM

AAM, have you guys considered taking similar mufflers over to the 3" system?

Jon@Altered · 01-29-2010, 04:26 PM

D00d you guys are posting way too fast!! I posted that picture even before I realized that Lou had already responded to the post 2 PAGES AGO!!

I can't keep up here, sheesh!

Ok, first XwChriswX, it is certainly possible to install a TT Kit on an auto, and as a matter of fact, in some cases, automatic cars are actually faster than manual. However with the 370Z and Nissan's new 7AT transmission, there are limited transmission upgrade options for the car, given that it's so new. With the old 5AT autos, we would do a transmission valve body upgrade(which is basically a spring and revalve upgrade), which allows the car to shift through the gears harder and faster. The older auto TT cars with an upgraded valve body go through the gears just as fast, if not faster than manuals, and they have a longer rear end than manual cars, so in some cases, a A/T TT car could give MT cars a run for their money.

I'm not sure about how the new 7AT will respond to a TT install, because we've actually never done one before. And as these cars get smarter and smarter from the factory, the more and more the electronics of the car are tied into all other engine and drivetrain functions. I can't say if it would cause any issues with the Cobb AP talking to the ECU, and the ECU trying to talk to the transmission, and creating an electronic tug of war. There probably wouldn't be any issues, but you have to take everything into consideration.

And Liquid, we wouldn't be able to use the 2.5" mufflers on a 3" system, because the piping inlets are a 2.5" in size. Did you mean a similar exhaust tip design?

And I'm sorry I don't have any new updates for everyone on Lou's car. It's ready to be tuned, but Mike has been out of town, but I should have a dyno video and dyno graph ready for everyone on Monday!

-jon

vipor · 01-29-2010, 04:38 PM

noooooooooooooo. monday is too far away!!!!! lol.

good info about the AT

LiquidZ · 01-29-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon@Altered

And Liquid, we wouldn't be able to use the 2.5" mufflers on a 3" system, because the piping inlets are a 2.5" in size. Did you mean a similar exhaust tip design?

-jon

Yeah, I meant using a similar muffler that can be fitted to a 3" exhaust system.

Jon@Altered · 01-29-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Yeah, I meant using a similar muffler that can be fitted to a 3" exhaust system.

Oh ok, so a 3" exhaust system with a 2.5" style tip? The mufflers themselves are basically the same, with the exception of the overall diameter of the muffler. We could probably do that; make a 3" rear muffler section with a factory-style tip.

G35guy84 · 01-29-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon@Altered

Ok, first XwChriswX, it is certainly possible to install a TT Kit on an auto, and as a matter of fact, in some cases, automatic cars are actually faster than manual. However with the 370Z and Nissan's new 7AT transmission, there are limited transmission upgrade options for the car, given that it's so new. With the old 5AT autos, we would do a transmission valve body upgrade(which is basically a spring and revalve upgrade), which allows the car to shift through the gears harder and faster. The older auto TT cars with an upgraded valve body go through the gears just as fast, if not faster than manuals, and they have a longer rear end than manual cars, so in some cases, a A/T TT car could give MT cars a run for their money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon@Altered

And I'm sorry I don't have any new updates for everyone on Lou's car. It's ready to be tuned, but Mike has been out of town, but I should have a dyno video and dyno graph ready for everyone on Monday!

-jon

FuszNissan · 01-29-2010, 05:02 PM

Monday..

StLRedrider · 01-29-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Monday..

monday

2theextreme · 01-29-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

If he stops crashin them all the time maybe!

Sorry Tony, couldn't help it!

It's ok....I would have posted something similar myself!

FuszNissan · 02-01-2010, 09:32 AM

Come on dyno!!!!

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Jon@Altered The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 135 Drives: Nissan 350Z Rep Power: 284	D00d you guys are posting way too fast!! I posted that picture even before I realized that Lou had already responded to the post 2 PAGES AGO!! I can't keep up here, sheesh! Ok, first XwChriswX, it is certainly possible to install a TT Kit on an auto, and as a matter of fact, in some cases, automatic cars are actually faster than manual. However with the 370Z and Nissan's new 7AT transmission, there are limited transmission upgrade options for the car, given that it's so new. With the old 5AT autos, we would do a transmission valve body upgrade(which is basically a spring and revalve upgrade), which allows the car to shift through the gears harder and faster. The older auto TT cars with an upgraded valve body go through the gears just as fast, if not faster than manuals, and they have a longer rear end than manual cars, so in some cases, a A/T TT car could give MT cars a run for their money. I'm not sure about how the new 7AT will respond to a TT install, because we've actually never done one before. And as these cars get smarter and smarter from the factory, the more and more the electronics of the car are tied into all other engine and drivetrain functions. I can't say if it would cause any issues with the Cobb AP talking to the ECU, and the ECU trying to talk to the transmission, and creating an electronic tug of war. There probably wouldn't be any issues, but you have to take everything into consideration. And Liquid, we wouldn't be able to use the 2.5" mufflers on a 3" system, because the piping inlets are a 2.5" in size. Did you mean a similar exhaust tip design? And I'm sorry I don't have any new updates for everyone on Lou's car. It's ready to be tuned, but Mike has been out of town, but I should have a dyno video and dyno graph ready for everyone on Monday! -jon __________________ “Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose.” ~ Ayrton Senna

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