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Originally Posted by redondoaveb I kept my walbro 450 and added a 525 hellcat Ah, so I'm guessing that one pump isn't going to cut the mustard for me.

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Old 10-27-2021, 01:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I kept my walbro 450 and added a 525 hellcat
Ah, so I'm guessing that one pump isn't going to cut the mustard for me.
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Ah, so I'm guessing that one pump isn't going to cut the mustard for me.
Honestly I think it depends on your fuel set up as a whole. Seethroughead is wanted to get up to 650 on pump which the 1050cc should be enough as long as he has the rails to go with it. (Although 580 to 600 may be a better number).

redondoaveb ran out of duty cycle but keep in mind he was running on e85 so takes more volume/fuel to get the same numbers that's why he needed bigger injectors and pumps.

I hit 650 with rails and the hellcat pump running 1300cc injectors at under 80% cycle.

Keep in mind you are be going to want to move volume over pressure. I feel like you shouldn't want the pumps fighting each other. But again depends on your setup as a whole unit
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Honestly I think it depends on your fuel set up as a whole. Seethroughead is wanted to get up to 650 on pump which the 1050cc should be enough as long as he has the rails to go with it. (Although 580 to 600 may be a better number).

redondoaveb ran out of duty cycle but keep in mind he was running on e85 so takes more volume/fuel to get the same numbers that's why he needed bigger injectors and pumps.

I hit 650 with rails and the hellcat pump running 1300cc injectors at under 80% cycle.

Keep in mind you are be going to want to move volume over pressure. I feel like you shouldn't want the pumps fighting each other. But again depends on your setup as a whole unit
Yeah fair points. I hadn't planned on changing the fuel rails, but I do have 1300cc injectors already so maybe I should reconsider. $1400 on fuel pumps alone seems pretty insane, but I know I gotta pay to play. I might run with 1 pump and see how far Eugene can take it and then decide down the line if I want bigger numbers.
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Yeah fair points. I hadn't planned on changing the fuel rails, but I do have 1300cc injectors already so maybe I should reconsider. $1400 on fuel pumps alone seems pretty insane, but I know I gotta pay to play. I might run with 1 pump and see how far Eugene can take it and then decide down the line if I want bigger numbers.
Just spend the money one and buy a brushless pump. 1 pump will take care of everything. You won’t make enough HP to out flow the brushless pump
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Just spend the money one and buy a brushless pump. 1 pump will take care of everything. You won’t make enough HP to out flow the brushless pump
Honestly, I would go with a single 450 or 500 and just add the Boost-a-pump. No need to unnecessarily heat up your fuel unless those brushless pumps dont create as much heat. These things are pretty trick as they only kick in when they see 3psi of boost.

I bet a 450 with a KB-BAP would flow enough for 800+whp and cost $400. I think those brushless pumps are well over $1k.

We made 710whp on that setup with stock rails and fuel pressure didnt drop one bit.
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Honestly, I would go with a single 450 or 500 and just add the Boost-a-pump. No need to unnecessarily heat up your fuel unless those brushless pumps dont create as much heat. These things are pretty trick as they only kick in when they see 3psi of boost.

I bet a 450 with a KB-BAP would flow enough for 800+whp and cost $400. I think those brushless pumps are well over $1k.

We made 710whp on that setup with stock rails and fuel pressure didnt drop one bit.
Eugene is suggesting I run a DW440 brushless pump. I'm looking at the Radium website that talks about flow vs amp draw and the TI brushless they sell draws very little current for the amount it flows so it's probably going to heat up a lot less. Looks like it's around $600 for one, but of course there are a lot of ways to skin this cat.

Also I just noticed that injector dynamics has a fuel flow calculator on their website too. Even with 20lbs of boost and E85 they're only calculating 355lph at redline. Does that seem low to people?

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