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Old 12-21-2019, 01:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Making a little less than 11 is the norm with the 9 lb pulley and this kit on over a hundred kits. How 11.6 on the 8lb is happening is a mystery.
I would suspect it is because of where and how it is being measured.
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What I mean by this is it depends where the map sensor or boost sensor is located. I read somewhere that the best place to pull boost pressure from is before the throttle bodies on the intake side. It is a more stable reading. If you pull it from the intake itself, it is not very stable. So, You guys are pulling the readings from two different places. That is why they are different.
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Nobody is pulling it from pre throttle body. All of these are measured at the manifold. Including the one in question.
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Nobody is pulling it from pre throttle body. All of these are measured at the manifold. Including the one in question.
Maybe so, All I see is some folks in this thread making a bit of a mess.
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Could it be from their set up having a bigger Y-Pipe and FMIC as opposed to your kit Topz? I don't know for sure, but was told that they run a bigger FMIC and that their Y-pipe is a full 3"
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Maybe so, All I see is some folks in this thread making a bit of a mess.
LOL, you’re including your self especially, right? With statements like

“So, You guys are pulling the readings from two different places. That is why they are different.” When literally no one is doing that.
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Could it be from their set up having a bigger Y-Pipe and FMIC as opposed to your kit Topz? I don't know for sure, but was told that they run a bigger FMIC and that their Y-pipe is a full 3"
I believe the maf pipes on both topgunz's and soho's are 2.75 inches.
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I wonder what it would look like if you put a filter on it. Some people like Dyno numbers, others prefer safety.
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Yeah. They don’t publish or test that case. I already asked awhile back.

My custom designed intake with filter outflows a turbo guard. I’m hitting about 15 psi at only 6600 RPM.
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Check the air to air intake options thread guys. Good lord. I’m not gonna post everything in three different threads. Eugene is the tuner, he’s seen my logs too. The boost logs are posted. We haven’t even begun to tune wot yet and there may or may not ever be a dyno. We’re doing remote tuning obviously, and that usually doesn’t include any dyno runs. But yeah, check the thread. Last time I’ll mention it.
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I know. Unbelievable right? I’m very happy with it so far, but I still have more design and work to do.
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I have 2 MAP sensors, and they both read the same thing.

For the rest of you, not you DrBacon:

Lets take a look at what Topgunz, Aaron himself, said about a design that was smaller in area than my design, and had a smaller air filter. The same design some of you on here not believing me actually liked! Turtle64b's design.

Turtleb64's quote: "Topz says that I should be getting 15-16 psi with my setup (he's seen more results from his kit than I have, so I trust him on this)."

Did you read that?

So I create an even larger opening, use ALL of that area, slap on a huge air filter and 6" velocity stack, and report 14.1-14.6 initially, look at and post the logs of 14.9, and everyone just shakes their head in disbelief.

So who is it really that you don't believe guys? Aaron? who looked at pictures of a more restrictive design and said thats good for 15-16 psi?

Or me? who opened up things even further, put a HUGE air filter on the end, and then posted the ECUTEK logs? Eugene also said I'm flowing so much, that my fuel setup with 485 pump, S1.SE FRS, and 1050x injectors is at 80% duty cycle with no room for E85. So even if my 2 MAP sensors are reading incorrect, my injectors are maxed trying to keep the A:F ratio on target. I'm *NOT* running rich at 80% duty.

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Sorry Nik, I've tried hard to get folks on the correct thread.
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So my original setup with filter made 12.76 psi with one map sensor and .86 bar on my 2nd map sensor. Essentially the same. I had mentioned this to you in another thread and asked about your thoughts on it. Eugene said it might be the cam timing. But in working with the filter later, I realized the small K&N has a larger flange opening than the SC and so comes with a silicone piece to fill the gap. At the time I thought maybe the installer did that, so I left it off and put the small filter on again. For maybe other reasons, like the filter had become a bit crushed, I was making now only 10 psi. Is it possible that gap piece wasn’t completely closed at the end and let more air in than normal? And if so, is it possible others are doing similar, and not getting a really tight seal at the filter? Just my thoughts. This may be complete non-sense as I had a coolant leak and so had to remove all the piping and put it back. I had some slight boost leaks after all that which may have contributed to the only 10 psi after.
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LOL, you’re including your self especially, right? With statements like

“So, You guys are pulling the readings from two different places. That is why they are different.” When literally no one is doing that.
Is this enough for you? I was just trying to be helpful that some folks may have taking the measurements from different places. But you however, it seams has a bone to pick.
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Nah man, I’m cool! But if you’re gonna laugh and make incorrect statements about people here and incorrect statements of your own, and then of all things, accuse everyone else of “making a mess” expect to get called on it.
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no offense to anyone but you guys should move this to another thread maybe?
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did you notice I mentioned that 3 times already? Can’t help they didn’t listen.


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Making a little less than 11 is the norm with the 9 lb pulley and this kit on over a hundred kits. How 11.6 on the 8lb is happening is a mystery.
No mystery at all, the larger charger pipe and less restrictive intercooler in our kit allow for the increase in boost.

We have done a number of testing with intercooler cores and sizes and have found different cores will develop different restrictions and pressure losses throughout a system.
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Can I ask again, is this a tune to show its potential, or will your customer also primarily run this on the streets?

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Can I ask again, is this a tune to show its potential, or will your customer also primarily run this on the streets?

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