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DrBacon 09-07-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JVerge5363 (Post 4008673)
E85 is available about 45 min. away from me so it's not really ideal. 93 Octane is readily available so that's why I am leaning towards the methanol injection. I'm gonna put the 10lb pulley back on now that I'm not getting any belt slip and see how that goes since I was making more boost with that one. I'd like to try and crack 600 whp and I'm almost positive that is not possible on just 93 Octane alone. Just a side note I measured my jackshaft pulley as 3.19 and supercharger pulley as 2.89. I was curious compared to the setup you we're running.

Yeah I have the same problem with E85, zero local supply. Last time I looked my car runs I think 5 degrees of timing near redline at WOT. Ton of power left on the table if I had access to better fuel but I've at this point accepted my fate lol.

redondoaveb 09-07-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4008681)
Yeah I have the same problem with E85, zero local supply. Last time I looked my car runs I think 5 degrees of timing near redline at WOT. Ton of power left on the table if I had access to better fuel but I've at this point accepted my fate lol.

You're lucky you have 93. I know some people here in Cali that don't have access to e85 and have to run 91. I do know someone that has a high hp Z32tt and runs 91 and Boostane. He swears by it.

DrBacon 09-07-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008684)
You're lucky you have 93. I know some people here in Cali that don't have access to e85 and have to run 91. I do know someone that has a high hp Z32tt and runs 91 and Boostane. He swears by it.

Close, but some where in the middle. 92 octane here in the PNW.

Let me know how the water/meth injection works out for you JVerge, I'd be interested in perhaps doing something like that down the road as well.

redondoaveb 09-07-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4008686)
Close, but some where in the middle. 92 octane here in the PNW.

Let me know how the water/meth injection works out for you JVerge, I'd be interested in perhaps doing something like that down the road as well.

Talk to "Z"en on here, @minized123456 on IG. He runs water/meth on his sc'd z.

DrBacon 09-07-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008687)
Talk to "Z"en on here, @minized123456 on IG. He runs water/meth on his sc'd z.

I talk to him on occasion, I use his supercharger belt tensioner. Never knew he did water/meth though. Neat.

TopgunZ 09-08-2021 08:28 AM

Makes you wonder how some guys are daily'ing 685whp on 93 at 14psi....

JVerge5363 09-08-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008676)
Did you buy your kit used? The stock jackshaft and sc pulley's are 3.20. So, your jackshaft is the stock pulley which makes sense as that's the one you don't want to change if you don't have to. They don't make a 2.89 so your sc pulley would be a 2.85 or 2.95 if measured correctly which means someone had to have changed it at one time. If that's the case, you should be running a 3" sc tensioner pulley instead of the stock 2-1/2" in order to take up the additional belt slack that going with a 2.85 or 2.95 is going to cause.

The Kit was purchased new from Topgunz thru RT Tuning. They installed the setup that was sent directly from Aaron. Can you please explain to me which pulley you are calling the sc tensioner pulley? I'm guessing it's the one directly behind the sc. Correct?

JVerge5363 09-08-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4008711)
Makes you wonder how some guys are daily'ing 685whp on 93 at 14psi....

Can you detail what pulley setup these guys are running in order to get to those numbers on 93 Octane? Can you also please detail what the pulley setup is supposed be with this kit new? Thanks

JVerge5363 09-08-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4008686)
Close, but some where in the middle. 92 octane here in the PNW.

Let me know how the water/meth injection works out for you JVerge, I'd be interested in perhaps doing something like that down the road as well.

Will do. Want to try and get my pulleys set up correctly first. I will be reaching out to "Z"en on IG if needed.

TopgunZ 09-08-2021 02:37 PM

2.95" serp side jackshaft, 3.2" SC side on JS, 3.0" on SC

I should clarify on that 687whp number on the V3-Si. Z1 is the only one who displayed a number like that. Is this daily driven? Did it leave the dyno at that power? Was it straight 93? Im not sure.

I know that Dynosty holds the record for the ACE kit but of course that took E85 and they made 685whp.

Ryfrybell 09-08-2021 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4008547)
I've dealt with the stupid k&n filter for a couple years now and I've had enough which is why I'm running the turboguard at the moment. I finally managed to find a fabricator (after several well known/famous shops said it would be too difficult lol) willing to make me an intake so the car goes in on Friday to get that done.

Keep us updated on this :yum:

redondoaveb 09-08-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JVerge5363 (Post 4008741)
The Kit was purchased new from Topgunz thru RT Tuning. They installed the setup that was sent directly from Aaron. Can you please explain to me which pulley you are calling the sc tensioner pulley? I'm guessing it's the one directly behind the sc. Correct?

The adjustable tensioner pulley between the sc pulley and the jackshaft pulley

JVerge5363 09-08-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008748)
The adjustable tensioner pulley between the sc pulley and the jackshaft pulley

What is the advantage of running the 3.47 jackshaft pulley (sc side) and 3.0 SC pulley?

redondoaveb 09-08-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JVerge5363 (Post 4008772)
What is the advantage of running the 3.47 jackshaft pulley (sc side) and 3.0 SC pulley?

More boost

redondoaveb 09-08-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008774)
More boost

Disadvantage is if you're running the V3 blower you'll be spinning it so fast (over 62000 rpm) that you'll destroy the oil slinger

JVerge5363 09-08-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4008775)
Disadvantage is if you're running the V3 blower you'll be spinning it so fast (over 62000 rpm) that you'll destroy the oil slinger

Yeah but I'm only running 1050 injectors so I won't be spinning as fast as you

redondoaveb 09-08-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JVerge5363 (Post 4008776)
Yeah but I'm only running 1050 injectors so I won't be spinning as fast as you

I ended up having to go with 1300's and twin fuel pumps

Ryfrybell 09-18-2021 03:47 PM

Hey everyone. Noticed some oil coming out of the BOV. Pulled the charge pipe off and there is a good amount of oil around the coupler from the outlet on the S.C. connecting to the charge pipe. My oil level is still fine and the blower has been running for around 6000 miles and the oil has been changed twice.

Did my seal go bad? I'm also not running the 9si pulley on the front, I'm running the 8psi.

DrBacon 09-18-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryfrybell (Post 4009550)
Hey everyone. Noticed some oil coming out of the BOV. Pulled the charge pipe off and there is a good amount of oil around the coupler from the outlet on the S.C. connecting to the charge pipe. My oil level is still fine and the blower has been running for around 6000 miles and the oil has been changed twice.

Did my seal go bad? I'm also not running the 9si pulley on the front, I'm running the 8psi.

Is it redish/pink fluid? Mine does the same but its never really been a problem, I just change the fluid out more regularly to make sure it stays topped off, measuring the fluid coming out to have an idea of how much was lost. I figure worst case scenario rebuilding the supercharger is pretty cheap and simple so I just blissfully ignore it.

Ryfrybell 09-18-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4009554)
Is it redish/pink fluid? Mine does the same but its never really been a problem, I just change the fluid out more regularly to make sure it stays topped off, measuring the fluid coming out to have an idea of how much was lost. I figure worst case scenario rebuilding the supercharger is pretty cheap and simple so I just blissfully ignore it.

It's black. Only started I would say about 1 week ago. Just in time for boost season to tear it down :)

All, how simple is tearing apart the Vortech to inspect/ replace seals? Or am I better off sending to Vortech?

Peabo 09-20-2021 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryfrybell (Post 4009555)
It's black. Only started I would say about 1 week ago. Just in time for boost season to tear it down :)

All, how simple is tearing apart the Vortech to inspect/ replace seals? Or am I better off sending to Vortech?

I have good news and bad news. The good news is that the repair and inspection will be quick. Vortech advertises two weeks or more, but my major rebuild was done in five days. The bad news is that it can be expensive. Mine was leaking fluid and then mistakenly contained too much fluid, causing the seals to give and essentially cooking the blower.

DrBacon 09-22-2021 01:13 AM

So some updates on that intake: Unfortunately it didn't really work out, while the fabricator did about as good of a job as one could do with that hilariously limited space and offset there just wasn't enough airflow, car maxed out at 9psi (for comparison I did 15psi with that K&N filter and a little over 17psi with a turboguard). Because it was hand made it was shaped similar to a box which is going to be pretty rough on the airflow since it would have to make a couple 90 degree turns. I'm assuming it could probably work if a similar piece was cnc machined or used some high temp 3d printed plastic to create smooth angles instead but I have no way of doing that.

I have not given up however, I have a couple other ideas I plan on trying out later this week/next week instead.

TopgunZ 09-22-2021 03:12 AM

You mean like what I made on page 5 of this thread?

DrBacon 09-22-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 4009775)
You mean like what I made on page 5 of this thread?

Correct, it's similar.

Ryfrybell 10-16-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Peabo (Post 4009681)
I have good news and bad news. The good news is that the repair and inspection will be quick. Vortech advertises two weeks or more, but my major rebuild was done in five days. The bad news is that it can be expensive. Mine was leaking fluid and then mistakenly contained too much fluid, causing the seals to give and essentially cooking the blower.

I appreciate the feedback.

I was able to do the rebuild myself after seeing the prices of a rebuild lol. Wasn't too bad, a hydraulic press worked wonders. Replaced both seals and an input and output bearing that I had to remove with a pulley extractor that probably loaded up the bearings from the removal. Now she's ripping again!

All part of the game I guess :driving:

Peabo 10-19-2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryfrybell (Post 4011415)
I appreciate the feedback.

I was able to do the rebuild myself after seeing the prices of a rebuild lol. Wasn't too bad, a hydraulic press worked wonders. Replaced both seals and an input and output bearing that I had to remove with a pulley extractor that probably loaded up the bearings from the removal. Now she's ripping again!

All part of the game I guess :driving:

Excellent! I have been back on the road for several weeks after my rebuild, but sadly we have winter blend ethanol to look forward to.

JVerge5363 12-12-2021 09:24 PM

I'll be upgrading to TopgunZ's new Rotrex Kit so I'll be selling my ACE Kit in which I made 543 whp at 14psi and 426 tq


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