Spark Plugs

ihiryu · 04-25-2018, 03:55 PM

So like many of us here, I run GTR plugs. I went and dig some digging, and the specs of our stock plugs vs the GTR plugs are just the gap.

I crossed referenced it on NGK's website, and checked out the specs. The plugs themselves are the same material and everything, just the gap differs from .44 and .32

With that being said, how many of us boosted guys are still on stock plugs? I (like most) changed mine preemptively changed mine when the supercharger went on.

turtle64b · 04-25-2018, 04:14 PM

Side by side of my OEM vs the OEM GTR plugs I put in when I transitioned to the boosted life.

Nissan OEM NGK DILKAR8A8 Iridium Spark Plug - Nissan GT-R R35

ihiryu · 04-25-2018, 04:16 PM

Even in your photo you can see that the gaps are different. I mean why on earth are we spending 100+ on plugs when our stock OEM ones with a regap will work? I know in the grand scheme of things, this is a drop in the bucket, but if you can save money, you should save it, right?

turtle64b · 04-25-2018, 04:20 PM

I was at 65k miles when I converted, so I felt like it was prudent to knock out the change while I was in there haha.

bcfromfl · 04-25-2018, 04:47 PM

I don't know what newer plugs are like, but it used to be that plugs were single-use because of the design of the gasket. So, if you removed them to re-gap OEM plugs, you'd essentially ruin the gaskets for re-install.

If that still holds true, that means you're comparing a price point for new OEM Z plugs against new GTR plugs...

Spooler · 04-25-2018, 06:30 PM

What is the heat range of both plugs? One is a Denso and one is a NGK. A boosted car should run a lower heat range to help with knock.

Jinxx · 04-25-2018, 08:49 PM

When I went boosted I used the OEM plugs for over a year with no issues ...I did switch over to gtr plugs ....how ever I believe the gtr plugs are one step colder and more resistant to detonation

ihiryu · 04-27-2018, 12:40 PM

I installed stock plugs and regapped them, so far so good. Will keep you guys posted.

They are both 8 heat range.

EliteXpress · 04-29-2018, 09:28 AM

Have not installed yet but picked up these NGK's R2558E-10 which are three steps colder than OEM z plugs and two steps colder than OEM GT-R plugs.

ihiryu · 04-30-2018, 10:49 AM

So I just completed an auto x over the weekend, and had no issues with the stock plugs regapped.

I did a few datalogs while on track, and saw no realdifference. So save your money guys! Just regap your stockers

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2018, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihiryu

So I just completed an auto x over the weekend, and had no issues with the stock plugs regapped.

I did a few datalogs while on track, and saw no realdifference. So save your money guys! Just regap your stockers

I thought the reason that people don't regap iridium plugs is that the iridium bit is fragile and can easily be damaged during regapping?

ihiryu · 04-30-2018, 02:14 PM

it's honestly because people do it incorrectly. Take a feeler strip, and take some needle nose pliers and slowly bend it in and it's totally fine. I've done it this way for years.

Spooler · 04-30-2018, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihiryu

So I just completed an auto x over the weekend, and had no issues with the stock plugs regapped.

I did a few datalogs while on track, and saw no realdifference. So save your money guys! Just regap your stockers

You would need to data log it to see what the knock sensor was seeing. It may be because of you tune if you had it done with stock plugs that you saw no difference. The rule of thumb is to reduce one heat range for every 5 psi of boost.

ihiryu · 05-01-2018, 02:21 PM

I tuned my car on GTR plugs, and I datalogged knock....I have the knock flash warning as well.

Jayhovah · 05-01-2018, 02:26 PM

The real question for me here is the heat range of the GTR plugs... most of us switched to them thinking they were one step colder. OP's research says that is not the case. Anyone verify?

04-25-2018, 03:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	Spark Plugs So like many of us here, I run GTR plugs. I went and dig some digging, and the specs of our stock plugs vs the GTR plugs are just the gap. I crossed referenced it on NGK's website, and checked out the specs. The plugs themselves are the same material and everything, just the gap differs from .44 and .32 With that being said, how many of us boosted guys are still on stock plugs? I (like most) changed mine preemptively changed mine when the supercharger went on.

04-25-2018, 04:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	Even in your photo you can see that the gaps are different. I mean why on earth are we spending 100+ on plugs when our stock OEM ones with a regap will work? I know in the grand scheme of things, this is a drop in the bucket, but if you can save money, you should save it, right? turtle64b likes this.

04-25-2018, 06:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,504 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684391	What is the heat range of both plugs? One is a Denso and one is a NGK. A boosted car should run a lower heat range to help with knock. jchammond likes this.

04-25-2018, 08:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jinxx Track Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 699 Drives: 2017 nismo 370z Rep Power: 3375	When I went boosted I used the OEM plugs for over a year with no issues ...I did switch over to gtr plugs ....how ever I believe the gtr plugs are one step colder and more resistant to detonation turtle64b likes this.

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ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	I installed stock plugs and regapped them, so far so good. Will keep you guys posted. They are both 8 heat range.

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ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	So I just completed an auto x over the weekend, and had no issues with the stock plugs regapped. I did a few datalogs while on track, and saw no realdifference. So save your money guys! Just regap your stockers

04-30-2018, 02:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	it's honestly because people do it incorrectly. Take a feeler strip, and take some needle nose pliers and slowly bend it in and it's totally fine. I've done it this way for years.

05-01-2018, 02:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 33	I tuned my car on GTR plugs, and I datalogged knock....I have the knock flash warning as well.