Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Rusty · 11-05-2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I need to do something with the trans before it eats itself. More like explodes. LMAO

Most likely. You'll twist the input shaft into 2 pieces and then over rev the motor.

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 09:34 PM

The thing with an MLS headgasket is when the heads start lifting they will seal back up. They will gradually get worse and worse, then boom. If you have a pressurized coolant system you have somewhere for the coolant to go and when done it will be sucked back into the engine via the return. You will never know it until it goes boom. I was lucky this time. I caught it way before then.

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 11:33 PM

I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

Mr.Squeeze · 11-07-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

They all run 4.5 inch intercooler cores if you look up the specs for any of the race intercoolers that's the thickness. They also run 3.5 inch intakes to the turbos 3.0-3.5 inlets from the intercooler to throttle bodies and 3.5 inch twin down pipes. They rarely run small A/R on the turbine side and choke them. This is why there are so many of them riding around with 800 plus WHP on pump 93 they have been doing this for years.

gbrettin · 11-08-2021, 09:08 AM

Sounds like you got it all figured out. Good luck.

Spooler · 11-08-2021, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

Sounds like you got it all figured out. Good luck.

I have figured out what doesn't work. LOL Maybe this next step I will get it right.

Spooler · 11-08-2021, 11:23 AM

I am not as good as Dylan is at SOHO on breaking chit but I am running a close 2nd place. That's for damn sure. I am ready for somebody else to take the lead on killing engines. If Dylan can't kill his engine, It should hold up to my abuse.

sirnixalot · 11-09-2021, 07:26 AM

Haltech Nexus looks promising but the ecu isn't the issue here, the bargain basement engine block we got saddled with is (my opinion). If mine goes pop again I'm going VK.

Spooler · 11-09-2021, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot

Haltech Nexus looks promising but the ecu isn't the issue here, the bargain basement engine block we got saddled with is (my opinion). If mine goes pop again I'm going VK.

I am not giving up. I got the right folks to help me push through all this BS so I can finish my build the way I want it. I have not been able to do my Motec upgrade or my transmission upgrade because the dang headlift issue.

Spooler · 11-09-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot

Haltech Nexus looks promising but the ecu isn't the issue here, the bargain basement engine block we got saddled with is (my opinion). If mine goes pop again I'm going VK.

The Haltech Nexus may be a good option instead of a Motec. Motec traction control is going to be hard to beat.

Elmo370z · 11-09-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

The Haltech Nexus may be a good option instead of a Motec. Motec traction control is going to be hard to beat.

There isn’t a plug n play available, you would have to pay someone to make. But it does have can protocols and supports the vvel.

Spooler · 11-09-2021, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

There isn’t a plug n play available, you would have to pay someone to make. But it does have can protocols and supports the vvel.

WOW, maybe I know something you don't. That is not saying I am going that way by any means.

sirnixalot · 11-09-2021, 11:12 AM

I am hoping for the best for you. I don't ever intend to chase the power level's you are at, the cost disparity between 700whp and 1k is too much for me. That and where the hell am I even going to use what I have on a 75sq mile island

SeeThruHead · 11-09-2021, 04:01 PM

whats better about motec traction control vs nexus
nexus traction control suite looks pretty full featured to me

https://www.haltech.com/tag/traction-control/

dunno if advanced torque control is available on the nexus. not sure why it wouldn't be tho. maybe a license fee?

out of the box tho:

https://youtu.be/CvO-bswMwic?t=921

think there are a variety of cut methods, ignition and boost i think, not sure what others.
you can set slip table, slip % vs road speed vs gear

think you can have a trim input for multiple levels of traction control as well.

Spooler · 11-09-2021, 06:44 PM

Motec has their own algorithm that takes those inputs and adjust for what to do. So NO, they are not the same.

11-09-2021, 07:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57456	Haltech Nexus looks promising but the ecu isn't the issue here, the bargain basement engine block we got saddled with is (my opinion). If mine goes pop again I'm going VK. __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

11-09-2021, 11:12 AM	#13 (permalink)
sirnixalot Track Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Cayman Islands Posts: 685 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 57456	I am hoping for the best for you. I don't ever intend to chase the power level's you are at, the cost disparity between 700whp and 1k is too much for me. That and where the hell am I even going to use what I have on a 75sq mile island __________________ 2010 Sport - LS3 swap loading 2012 Frontier - BTWTuning VK56DE swap

11-09-2021, 04:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23500	whats better about motec traction control vs nexus nexus traction control suite looks pretty full featured to me https://www.haltech.com/tag/traction-control/ dunno if advanced torque control is available on the nexus. not sure why it wouldn't be tho. maybe a license fee? out of the box tho: https://youtu.be/CvO-bswMwic?t=921 think there are a variety of cut methods, ignition and boost i think, not sure what others. you can set slip table, slip % vs road speed vs gear think you can have a trim input for multiple levels of traction control as well. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here Last edited by SeeThruHead; 11-09-2021 at 04:14 PM.

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11-05-2021, 09:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,178 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684395	The thing with an MLS headgasket is when the heads start lifting they will seal back up. They will gradually get worse and worse, then boom. If you have a pressurized coolant system you have somewhere for the coolant to go and when done it will be sucked back into the engine via the return. You will never know it until it goes boom. I was lucky this time. I caught it way before then.

11-05-2021, 11:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,178 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684395	I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

11-08-2021, 09:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,304 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589452	Sounds like you got it all figured out. Good luck.

11-08-2021, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,178 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684395	I am not as good as Dylan is at SOHO on breaking chit but I am running a close 2nd place. That's for damn sure. I am ready for somebody else to take the lead on killing engines. If Dylan can't kill his engine, It should hold up to my abuse.

11-09-2021, 06:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,178 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684395	Motec has their own algorithm that takes those inputs and adjust for what to do. So NO, they are not the same.