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Spooler 05-25-2024 12:11 PM

To make right at 900whp you should only need 23psi of boost on a 10:1 compression engine. It is more critical that you have your turbo/turbo kit efficient. The higher the whp the easier it is to hurt an engine because your efficiency is not there. Cool dense air makes power. When our cars are right they just make power easy. There is no tuning trickery

gbrettin 05-28-2024 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4050872)

That engine has 100k+ of performance parts. The only thing stock about it is the block :). That being said, your turbo points are 100% correct. Drag world has been in front of that for a while. Infact, the sensor setup you have is very similar to what I see in top tier drag builds.

gbrettin 05-28-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4050879)
Let me throw some numbers out here that way you will know if your turbo kit is efficient.
I am going to use 10:1 compression ratio. Your numbers will go up or down depending on the compression ratio you have. 9:1= lower whp at 17psi of boost. 11:1 = higher whp at 17psi of boost.

If you are not hitting somewhere close to these numbers you have an issue that needs to be addressed. So, stop turning up the boost to try and make it hit the whp numbers you want or you may hurt your engine.

17psi of boost, 10:1 compression ratio on pump E85
720whp

17psi of boost, 10:1 compression ratio on Ignite Red with 1/2 deg more timing.
770whp

An additional point is that boost PSI is a measure of resistance. 17psi on one car is different on another car depending on restrictions.

BTW, this isn't so much for you Spooler. Just an addendum to your thought.

gbrettin 05-28-2024 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4050880)
To make right at 900whp you should only need 23psi of boost on a 10:1 compression engine. It is more critical that you have your turbo/turbo kit efficient. The higher the whp the easier it is to hurt an engine because your efficiency is not there. Cool dense air makes power. When our cars are right they just make power easy. There is no tuning trickery

A good tuner will show you where the engine falls off and explain why instead of forcing it.

Spooler 05-28-2024 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 4050933)
A good tuner will show you where the engine falls off and explain why instead of forcing it.

I am afraid we don't have any of those on our platform. The person who tuned my car is not from the VQ community. Best kept secret there is.

SteveVQ 05-29-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4050880)
When our cars have $100K+ put in them they just make power easy. There is no tuning trickery.

FIFY

Sorry bro, its the truth for this platform :icon17:

Glad it's all come together and its all working for you. You've earned your results 10x over. :tiphat:

Spooler 05-29-2024 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ (Post 4050955)
FIFY

Sorry bro, its the truth for this platform :icon17:

Glad it's all come together and its all working for you. You've earned your results 10x over. :tiphat:

You have no idea. LOL This last upgrade was not cheap. Custom work costs. It is right this time. The car is amazing. We all wish we had the cookie cutter upgrades to make the power like other models and be reliable. Do this to get that whp type deal. Nobody makes a turbo kit that can make 1000whp without some serious modifications. Some kits you just sell and start over. I am happy with my car. At the end of the day that is all that matters.

Spooler 06-08-2024 10:42 PM

Life has me busy right now. I will get to tuning my car in one day. It will just have to wait. I have other more important things to deal with right now.

Spooler 06-14-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by isayimandrew View Post
If I'm not mistaken, the CSS solution does prevent head lift up to a certain point but for anyone making huge amounts of power the issue pops back up. I am running that exact set up and under 800 whp so its not an issue for me. I think Spooler mentioned going over 800 whp is where head lift becomes an issue.



That's right. If you use a quality MLS and head studs with the CSS it should hold at that level as long as your turbo and turbo kit are designed correctly. If you want more you have to do something to create more sealing pressure.

Examples:
Darton sleeves with step deck cut block, Quality MLS, Head studs
CSS with a copper o-ring/Quality MLS with headstuds.
CSS with Top fuel hoops, copper headgasket, Head studs.

Every one of these solutions can be broken if you don't do not size your turbos properly and do not have an optimal turbo kit. High drive pressure will take out a headgasket with the quickness. Too high of cylinder pressure to low in the rpm range will make our blocks dance. We are not able to push our blocks like other platforms can. At 800whp or above one little tuning mistake or pushing your small turbos too hard will cause major grief. You have to know when to stop turning up the boost. You will get warning signs before destruction happens. A standalone with sensors is worth it and will pay for itself. One rebuild will cost more than the cost of a standalone.

Spooler 06-18-2024 11:40 PM

Welp, we can all add Vulcan Cut Ring headgaskets for the VQ. CSS is selling them now.

Spooler 06-18-2024 11:49 PM

Finally, I have some time for myself. I have a ton more traction than ever before. Time to kick this pig and see where I am. I hope the weather holds.

Spooler 06-21-2024 09:41 PM

Changed the oil today and did a once over to check everything. Drained my catch cans and only water came out. The car is ready to go but the dang rain started today. Crapola!!

gbrettin 06-27-2024 09:42 AM

Any updates with getting some runs in?

Spooler 06-27-2024 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin (Post 4051516)
Any updates with getting some runs in?

Noop. It's that time of the year. I am happy to be getting rain finally. It was dry as a bone. The high's have been 98 to 100deg with high humidity. I see no need to stress the motor that much for nothing.

Optimiser 07-06-2024 10:12 AM

Interesting video of Australian built drag racing inline 6 engines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKsg5EbTVvY


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