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Elmo370z 11-20-2021 11:32 AM

Mic drop

DrBacon 11-20-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by George@SOHO (Post 4014065)
If we did not care about the community we would not be developing anything for the VHR or sharing our information. And yes, you would be correct as we do not sell "just the gaskets". The whole top hoop system has to be 100% correct in machining. Do you have the correct hoop size? receiver groove depth? top hoop size and width? If any of this is wrong or even the top hoop groove and receiver groove are misaligned even the slightest the system will not work. So if I sell you gaskets and the machining is wrong, guess what you will still lift the heads and you will be pretty upset.

The "excess" of cost is due to the extra large amount of new and preinstalled components and services provided on top of your average "long block". We stand behind our work and will always stand behind it.

If you have any questions you can call or email me whenever you would like.

Unfortunately in my experience you do not like responding to emails so that poses a bit of a problem.

Spooler 11-20-2021 03:13 PM

Guys, if you want to bash someone please do it somewhere else. My thread is not the place.

Spooler 11-20-2021 06:34 PM

I dang sure get enough hate. I won't stand for it here folks. Go someplace else.

Mr.Squeeze 11-20-2021 06:55 PM

The hate for Soho is just ridiculous there have been countless shops that have come and gone over the years in the VQ community. There the only ones that have stuck with this platfrom. Soho could easily do what all the other shops do and that is go with where demand and money is but they have chosen to stick with the VQ.

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Spooler 11-20-2021 06:56 PM

I guess we are supposed to give everything to everyone for free. It's the young generation of "Give me, I want, I want" people.

Or it is the "You are not helping the Community" folks. Just like a little spoiled brat that mommy and daddy didn't raise properly.

Wait a minute, It is the "I am smarter than you crowd." I can do it for way cheaper. You got ripped off."

Lastly, it is the " That is a terrible platform to do anything with. You need to build something else." The Mustang is so much better platform to build.

Spooler 11-20-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Skrill (Post 4014077)
Soho is just a copy and paste, they copied switch back racing turbo kit, topgunzkit, and now they wanna do vr30 kit even tho it’s all labor and btw I’m the first one to do vr30 transmission swap in G37. But now it’s my turn, I was able to get fuel hoop from tkm without going though soho (so Soho lied about having a contract with TKM) and for copper headgasket it’s 50 thousand of an inch and you can literally order it frok clark, so I copied their work lol and hey btw it was TKM design noy Soho my Ig is Adel_taw hmu if you want help getting copper gasket

Is this you?????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM4DRhlbw1M

Rusty 11-20-2021 08:59 PM

I wish I was a trust fund baby. :icon14:

Spooler 11-20-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 4014115)
I wish I was a trust fund baby. :icon14:


Don't we all. LOL

FL 4Motion 11-21-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4013959)
I had one shortly after. It’s a weak cast design. And the gtr did kill the VQ. It was far superior in all ways, transmission, block, engine, and Ecu.

I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work.

With enough time and money anything is possible. The z34 development is way further along than I could have ever imagined 8-10 years ago. At that elite top 5% build level there are better platforms for the money but you can make that argument about almost any car.

Speaking strictly for myself, I only provide a contrarian/devil’s advocate pov on here periodically bc I consider spooler to be a forum friend. A real friend will tell you their honest opinion not just be a yes man or egg you on for entertainment.

Also, the best way to reach a good decision on almost anything important is to always try and see the problem from all angles including the ones you don’t want to hear or like, it’ll help (spooler in this case) have the best chance of not missing something.

Oh, and I like to give him a bit of a good natured hard time once in a while. :happydance:

Mr.Squeeze 11-21-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4014137)
I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work. :happydance:

Exactly 100% correct considering you could get a new GTR back then when it first came out for 70k. That is what created the demand for all these shops and aftermarket companies jump on it. The development of the platform benefited greatly from this now the base price for a new GTR is over 110k MSRP. The car is no longer the bargain it used to be it never killed the Z34 development.

gbrettin 11-21-2021 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014041)
Enjoy, this guy get's it. He is just on a different platform. The struggle is real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTjJK2dqIRg

That reminds me of my build. I straight up would rather have a sequential but I don't have that sequential money right now (building a car is apparently expensive and not rational... lol)

I fully expect that the rear end of my Z will not keep up with the power once turned up, so I have a Winters Quick change on deck (fully upgraded 5g paid, paid for). The Quick Change is the tip of the peen because the subframe has to be changed out (2.5g), pair of drive shafts (2g), cut my custom drive shaft (2-500), TBM rear brake conversion (1500) and what ever else pops up (1-2g).

Ok, so where am I going with this... oh yeah. I like that dudes build but there's SO MUCH cost to every damn thing. Sometimes it's beneficial to enjoy what you have for a little bit. That's why I'm going to run my car low power with the stock rear end even though I have the baddest rear diff out there.

Just another thing mentality, especially when you have high standards, makes completion very difficult. I commend you sticking out all the set backs.

An additional thought... I looked at buying those exact carbon fiber Tillett seats in that z06. :p ... Figured I could do that down the road.

-- Edit

That Frankenstein intake is MONEY.

Elmo370z 11-21-2021 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 4014137)
I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work.

With enough time and money anything is possible. The z34 development is way further along than I could have ever imagined 8-10 years ago. At that elite top 5% build level there are better platforms for the money but you can make that argument about almost any car.

Speaking strictly for myself, I only provide a contrarian/devil’s advocate pov on here periodically bc I consider spooler to be a forum friend. A real friend will tell you their honest opinion not just be a yes man or egg you on for entertainment.

Also, the best way to reach a good decision on almost anything important is to always try and see the problem from all angles including the ones you don’t want to hear or like, it’ll help (spooler in this case) have the best chance of not missing something.

Oh, and I like to give him a bit of a good natured hard time once in a while. :happydance:

Those lambo, Ferrari owners is what drives the aftermarket to throw money into development of a platform. We don’t have that crazy Honda fan base that will throw child support money into a build while there babies are running around in dirty diapers. Z34 development pretty much dead in the water. Soho is the only company pushing the platform to hold big power. Facts you still have a huge majority of the community thinking an open deck block and head studs will hold anything 800whp is proof.

Elmo370z 11-21-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4014172)
Those lambo, Ferrari owners is what drives the aftermarket to throw money into development of a platform. We don’t have that crazy Honda fan base that will throw child support money into a build while there babies are running around in dirty diapers. Z34 development pretty much dead in the water. Soho is the only company pushing the platform to hold big power. Facts you still have a huge majority of the community thinking an open deck block and head studs will hold anything 800whp is proof.

Maybe not kill the development. But severely slow the process down.

Spooler 11-22-2021 09:13 AM

Well I guess we had a cleanup on Isle 7. So be it. Wasn't me.


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