Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Hotrodz · 07-13-2021, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

My distributor lives in Swansee, SC. LOL It is not too bad of a drive.

Never a shortage at the distributor!!!

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Spooler · 07-13-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Never a shortage at the distributor!!!

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LOL, that is because JCHammond and I go in together on fuel and order a good bit at once.

Mr.Squeeze · 07-13-2021, 12:10 PM

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You should Google Sunoco racing fuel for a distributor near you. Their e85r is always e85 and the price for delivery to your door may not be to bad. It may also be easy for you to go to the distribution site and puck it up your self.

I get it delivered to my garage door for less than $5 per gallon! My house is about 110 miles from the distributor.

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This has been an option I've been looking into as well there is a distributor not to far from where I live.

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Hotrodz · 07-13-2021, 01:53 PM

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This has been an option I've been looking into as well there is a distributor not to far from where I live.

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Right on! I don't mind paying a little more in getting all the benefits of having the consistency and quality of the fuel over pump e85. I guess I'm still suffer from having issues with dirty e85 and my fuel pump system not being able to filter or perform because of the quality of pump e85 seven years ago.

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redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 01:59 PM

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Right on! I don't mind paying a little more in getting all the benefits of having the consistency and quality of the fuel over pump e85. I guess I'm still suffer from having issues with dirty e85 and my fuel pump system not being able to filter or perform because of the quality of pump e85 seven years ago.

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After seeing my injector test results, I'm kind of scared of pump e85 too. I'll definitely be getting the ID F750 fuel filter

johnxxx · 07-13-2021, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

You should Google Sunoco racing fuel for a distributor near you. Their e85r is always e85 and the price for delivery to your door may not be to bad. It may also be easy for you to go to the distribution site and puck it up your self.

I get it delivered to my garage door for less than $5 per gallon! My house is about 110 miles from the distributor.

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@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

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I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder
https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

)

I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

It's not about the ethanol content, it's more about contaminants in with the fuel.

johnxxx · 07-13-2021, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

It's not about the ethanol content, it's more about contaminants in with the fuel.

Getting the ID-F750 fuel filter installed but it's efficiency is rated at 87% @ 5 microns and 100% @ 35 microns... guess that still leaves room for contaminants to make it's way into the injectors.

Hotrodz · 07-13-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnxxx

@Hotrodz I googled Sunoco's website and the price for a 54 gallon drum of Sunoco E85-R is $409.73. https://www.sunocoracefuels.com/fuel-finder

https://petroleumservicecompany.com/...4-gallon-drum/ That's $7.59 per gallon and doesn't include the [liftgate] delivery charge of $145 to NJ for me specifically. ( Delivery is $145 regardless of 1 drum or 4 drums... then it moves up to $190 for 5 drums delivered, etc. ) The distributor here is PSC, Petroleum Service Company, and they're out of Pa. They also mentioned that this year alone Sunoco has increase the price 5 times since. ( Just saying as you might be surprised on your next order

)

I have a E85 gas station about 20 miles south of me... been looking at a 110 gallon fuel transfer tank w/ pump ( $3k ) or going with drums. Heard that they are pretty consistent at around 83% ethanol. I would buy a tester for sure prior to fill up.

Still trying to figure out what to do with fuel myself.

I ordered a barrel a couple of months ago and I haven't used any because no race car lol. I have no idea what may have happened since fuel prices have gone wild. Prices were up a bit for fuel since I was buying Ignite 114 for $360 a drum. It and Torco equivalent is now $420 to $460 a drum and in CA and NV it was $500 to $550 picked up. You might get a better price on Ignite since they make it back that way. I guess I guage the cost, value and benefit based on race fuel which is $11 a gallon and does not carry the benefits e85 has for our motor.

Also pump e85 can have water, grit, oil and any other contaminates that fall into a tank at the service station.

I don't expect many to follow my lead as my build and endeavor is extreme. The money I spend on consumables would pretty much fund a normals person's vehicle expenses for a year. It is the cost of entertainment for me and I make no apologize for working hard to play at this level. What I spend on the game I play ain't chit compared to arrive and drive competitive racing which cost $25k a weekend!

My humble advice is don't cheap out on fuel, fluids and filters. Do your maintenance regularly even if it doesn't need it and your motor will pay you back in longevity and reliability. I got five years out of a stock block and I only know of a couple of others that lasted as long being boosted and running them at the track.

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Spooler · 07-13-2021, 11:49 AM

I do a good job of stopping when I am ready. I will just maintain the car and only upgrade what I break. I do miss driving it every day back and forth to work. I don't always drive it like I stole it but it is there if I want to. A choice is a beautiful thing.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 11:54 AM

The only frustrating thing about my car is keeping E85 in the tank. I wish they would build more E85 stations. I have been my own station since last year. Staying on Ignite Red is not a bad thing. It just get's expensive and since I don't drive near as much it is not too bad.

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 01:15 PM

New Intercooler has been made. Just looked at the pictures. Won't be long and it will head off to be coated.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 01:29 PM

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New Intercooler has been made. Just looked at the pictures. Won't be long and it will head off to be coated.

I'm no thermal dynamics engineer

but that 4.5" thick core has got to be so much more efficient

Spooler · 07-13-2021, 01:40 PM

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I'm no thermal dynamics engineer

but that 4.5" thick core has got to be so much more efficient

It is 3.5in Bell core. The end caps were really restrictive. Guess we will see how this works.

redondoaveb · 07-13-2021, 01:44 PM

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It is 3.5in Bell core. The end caps were really restrictive. Guess we will see how this works.

For some reason I was thinking 4.5. Still an inch thicker than the FI. That inch adds a lot of area

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Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,119 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	I do a good job of stopping when I am ready. I will just maintain the car and only upgrade what I break. I do miss driving it every day back and forth to work. I don't always drive it like I stole it but it is there if I want to. A choice is a beautiful thing.

07-13-2021, 11:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,119 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	The only frustrating thing about my car is keeping E85 in the tank. I wish they would build more E85 stations. I have been my own station since last year. Staying on Ignite Red is not a bad thing. It just get's expensive and since I don't drive near as much it is not too bad.

07-13-2021, 01:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,119 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	New Intercooler has been made. Just looked at the pictures. Won't be long and it will head off to be coated.