Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

Kyle@STILLEN

Well, I decided to pop into the other thread and see what has been going on over the weekend...Seems like I missed out on some interesting discussions that appear to have been edited. Darn, wish I could have seen what was said.

I am sure that there are numerous questions from everyone...Why? Because no data has been provided. To make statements right now on the performance of either kit would be asinine. We have our doubts/concerns about some of the things we've seen in regards to GTM's kit however we have chosen to sit back and see what unfolds. We have been in this business far too long to think we can tell everything by looking at a picture.

Also, I have seen this question/concern come up a couple of times so I will briefly answer it.

Why did we relocate the dual throttle bodies on to the passenger side rather than on the driver side which would have been a shorter distance to travel?

The answer is simple...Clearance...We found a spot inside the engine bay which allowed us to mount the largest supercharger possible. Unfortunately, this area is limited by the hood clearance. When I get a chance I will post a picture for you that clearly shows what I'm talking about. To mount the throttle bodies on the driver's side we would literally be running the intake piping through the engine...There just wasn't room for the piping.

I'm sure the following statement will be made "Well, GTM says they designed their supercharger to work with the car, not around it..." Right...So did we, which is why we found the largest pocket of space available in the engine bay.

By the way, what'd you California people think of that rain last week? I'm sure glad our Gen. 3 intake filters are mounted so high so no one had to worry about hydrolocking! Could it be that we thought of this when developing the supercharger as well???

StillenZ

So my dealer told me to be super careful and not to hit any puddles to avoid risking hydrolocking...I can't say I haven't hit a puddle or two but no issues... Should I be as concerned as they made it sound I should?

sorry I'm great at goin OT.

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LiquidZ

A puddle large enough to hydrolock your G3's would be 3 ft deep. Dont worry about it.

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Kyle@STILLEN

If you hit a puddle large enough to submerge your G3's...I hope you're also wearing a snorkle!!!

Seriously though, no you'll be fine. Your dealer is just being extra careful, which is good. The G3's are mounted very high, you won't have to worry about that.

NewYorkJon34

I'm sure the GTM & Stillen kits will both be worth the money, I just don't like how they are putting down the Stillen kit in the GTM thread. Especially since Stillen has not really released any real info, Hp/Tq numbers, or testing reviews.

LiquidZ

Stillen, receive your intercooler core yet?

Forgot to mention: I remember somebody asking whether or not the stock strut tower brace on the 370z would fit with the new intake manifold. Any news regarding the issue?

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Kyle@STILLEN

Clearance on the strut tower brace should not be a problem. My engineer's designed it to work with the stock strut brace.

Unfortunately the intercooler will not be arriving until Thursday or Friday. We followed up with our vendor a couple weeks ago and they said "Oh yea, no problem! We're right on track!" Then last week we received different news! We told them to work through the weekend non-stop until they were completed with our prototype. We should be seeing it this week though. If not, I will be making a trip up there myself! LOL.

Kyle@STILLEN

By the way:

I'd like to clear up a misunderstanding. Our explanation of why we chose to go with a new intake manifold only relates to OUR supercharger system. I was trying to explain that we couldn't simply run a Y-pipe design off the back of the blower. Also, because we ran the air-water intercooler system we had to think creatively about getting the intercooler inside the manifold. Which again, is the #1 reason why we rebuilt the manifold. We wanted to get the intercooler inside the manifold.

GTM mounted their supercharger on the bottom of the engine and utilize a front mount air to air intercooler system so they were able to retain the factory intake manifold. We chose to mount our supercharger inside the engine bay and go with an air to water intercooler system.

Kyle@STILLEN

Also,

I don't want to step into GTM's thread again, I don't think it's appropriate for me to be in there...But, I do want to say that the assumptions regarding the mounting locations of our MAF sensors were incorrect. We are not mounting the MAF sensors in the charge pipe. We have decided to go with a draw through sensor. I will have another full explanation as to why we went that route.

RCZ

I'd say that was adequately handled.

Hopefully its the price question we're going to be surprisingly pleased to hear the answer to. Can't wait to see the finished product and some numbers Kyle. It's actually pretty calming to see so much engineering going into something because at least we know you thought about all the issues and there won't be any surprises for us costumers.

1slow370

yay draw through someone is actually using a MAF sensor like it should be. Can't wait to see the divorced IAT sensors I hope you guys can find a fast acting one with a small open thermistor to provide prompt accurate readouts instead of the canned gm ones. At least with the intake charge metering of draw through it will have enough information to be able to calculate the actual amount of air in the manifold without an upgraded MAP sensor (which i would still like to see)

LiquidZ

I share the same feelings about the engineering that went into the kit. The fact Stillen even went to CAD to design their intake manifold shows their attention to detail.

Anyways, I hope to see some up close and personal pictures of the kit on a 370Z soon!

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Buddy Revell

Thanks for the clarifications, Kyle.

RCZ

I used to have a blow through on my STI big turbo kit, it worked soo much better than the original MAF setup..

1slow370

that was because you were most likely running a big blow off valve and everytime it opened you screwed up your AFR by exhausting the metered air