Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

1slow370

I hope you are ready to be disappointed go on over to the vortech site and look at how much a base kit for 03-06 350z costs or hear let me do it for you 5,945.95 that is factory direct so the supercharger itself doesn't get cheaper than that, the fuel tunning is done through the uber cheap (and failure prone) turboxs utec, there is no custom manifold, there is no inter cooler, and if you are basing you're 5,000 dollar mark on the old stillen kit, a vortech V3 costs upwards of 2,500 dollars an mp62 costs less than 1500 so there is AT LEAST a 1000 dollars more cost than the old kit

Buddy Revell

Good post. Peeps gotta stay realistic about the cost of this.

m4a1mustang

+1. You have to pay to play. This looks like it's going to be a pretty comprehensive kit with the new intake manifold, intercooler, and canned tune so I can't imagine it being as cheap as some are suggesting.

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1slow370

Thanks I try to keep all my posts good unless i'm messing around with someone or it's real late at night for me (7am. second shifter don't ask how many hours)

MMC Racing

I don't know what is more sad - the fact that you have no clue what was included in the 03-06 kit (intercooler included for example), the fact that it was sold cheaper through retailers, or the fact that everyone has taken your numbers as fact and used them to speculate prices.

Buddy Revell

Were the kits sold for significantly less than list price when they first came out? People discussing price on the new kits are most likely gonna be amongst the first to buy them.

MMC Racing

Depends how well Stillen does on controlling the retailers they sell to (or if they only sell direct). Vortech didn't do a very good job of controlling price. I bought my Vortech kit in 2004 for $4300 (not tuner).. Seems like there might have been a price increase along the way also, but don't quote me on that..

The more important point was the claimed lack of parts that did in fact come with the Vortech kit. Also misquoting the tuning device included and valuing (in dollar terms) the split second box versus a reflash. A straight reflash should in fact cost much less, while including something like a Cobb AP would have a higher value..

Kyle@STILLEN

Those are good questions and they will all be answered in due time. I'm on my iPhone right now so I don't really feel like getting finger cramps pecking away lol.

Simply put there is a lot of speculation in those questions. All of which is incorrect. There are in fact two intake tubes on our kit. We just havent released all of our photos yet. When we release the photos and more technical data you will see what I'm talking about.

So I'm not the only one who found it interesting that those questions were brought up by new people in the other discussion and not in this one???

1slow370

2003-2006 Nissan 350Z Supercharging Systems | Vortech Superchargers

Alright I missed the line that said "Integrated charge cooling" so the intercooler is included in the vortech kit but the prices are straight from the page. the price of the head unit can be found on the site as well. the vendors probablyy do get a price break on that but the point that it does cost significantly more than the magnusson blower from the last stillen kit is valid. an accesport costs over 600$(which we don't even know if this is what they are using), the supercharger is over the 2000 mark, a cold air intake that has the same amount of piping costs 300-600 dollars, the belts bracketry and all the other parts probably cost another 2000-3000 if you include the manifold, and intercoolers are not cheap, then there is labor and overhead, legal fees, warranty insurance, carb approval, marketing, shipping costs, it sure as hell isn't going to be 5000 and if it is stillen worked some god damn impressive haggling miracles.

I'm going to ask the same question i asked in the GTM thread and that is how come the maf sensors aren't placed ahead of the supercharger to measure the actual uncompressed air charge with IAT's split off and mounted into the manifold to measure the real intake temps, or were you able to upgrade the stock MAP sensor to gauge the pressure created in the manifold? Or are we looking at a tune that is going to modify the VE tables to simply go around that?

Kyle@STILLEN

Remember...We haven't posted all of our pictures and data yet!

You have some great questions and I think you will be pleasantly surprised by our answers.