Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

RCZ · 02-27-2010, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee

I checked out the video and could only think WTF??? I didn't expect much, but I didn't expect to see a low angle drift. I can wait for the real one though. How long till you start working on the Z?

Are you complaining? seriously?

roplusbee · 02-27-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Are you complaining? seriously?

Not really. It just wasn't what I was expecting. I guess my expectations are a little misplaced. Sorry for the confusion.

LiquidZ · 02-27-2010, 09:09 PM

Stillen, in your opinion, what is an acceptable range for adiabatic efficiency?

One thing that is important to me is having room to grow with the supercharger. If I need to crank up the boost to make more power, I want to know that I am within an acceptable adiabatic efficiency.

What are your thoughts? I'm thinking above 70% is acceptable.

Josh@STILLEN · 02-27-2010, 09:26 PM

LOL.. what are you trying to do Liquid spin these poor guys brains?

To save everyone from googling to death, here's a good article which gives you some insight on adiabatic efficiency and what he's discussing: Supercharger & Blower Basics - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine

As far as this exact supercharger, and our setup, I'd have to refer to our engineers to get an idea of what this lays out to, but I will tell you the system has been designed around the fact that we're not pushing the current S/C to the limit, and within the current series we've spec'd, there is also additional trims that can support much more..

1slow370 · 02-28-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

LOL.. what are you trying to do Liquid spin these poor guys brains?

To save everyone from googling to death, here's a good article which gives you some insight on adiabatic efficiency and what he's discussing: Supercharger & Blower Basics - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine

As far as this exact supercharger, and our setup, I'd have to refer to our engineers to get an idea of what this lays out to, but I will tell you the system has been designed around the fact that we're not pushing the current S/C to the limit, and within the current series we've spec'd, there is also additional trims that can support much more..

Spin my brain josh, some of us here knew what it was we aren't all new to this. Just for referance a whipple 140ax has has a maximum 30psi and a peak AE of 80%, and it can provide peak boost from below 3000 rpm, with over a 700hp capacity, where does the vortech unit fall?

LiquidZ · 03-01-2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Spin my brain josh, some of us here knew what it was we aren't all new to this. Just for referance a whipple 140ax has has a maximum 30psi and a peak AE of 80%, and it can provide peak boost from below 3000 rpm, with over a 700hp capacity, where does the vortech unit fall?

From SUPERCHARGERS: Vortech V-3 Series Supercharger | Vortech Superchargers

Si Trim:
Max Speed: 52000 RPM
Max Boost: 22 PSI
Max Flow: 1150 CFM
Max Power: 775 HP
Peak Efficiency: 78%

SCi Trim:
Max Speed: 53000 RPM
Max Boost: 17 PSI
Max Flow: 1050 CFM
Max Power: 725 HP
Peak Efficiency: 75%

Red370 · 02-27-2010, 09:29 PM

well I know on the Vortech site, it says the V-3 is capable of boosting up to 22psi with max power at 775hp with an efficiency of 78%, is that what hes referring to?

RCZ · 02-27-2010, 10:16 PM

Can I get a race gas only tune?

Red370 · 02-27-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Can I get a race gas only tune?

It would be nice to have a tuner with a map that can be selected for race gas only, wish Cobb would get off their a$$es and do something.

Josh@STILLEN · 02-27-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

It would be nice to have a tuner with a map that can be selected for race gas only, wish Cobb would get off their a$$es and do something.

We have some stuff in the works..

Will do everything you're asking about..

RCZ · 02-27-2010, 10:35 PM

we'll have to wait and see.

roplusbee · 02-27-2010, 10:47 PM

That must be on a V-8 that is putting out more volume. Something like a Vette or something with similar displacement.

LiquidZ · 02-27-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee

That must be on a V-8 that is putting out more volume. Something like a Vette or something with similar displacement.

What exactly are you referring to?

roplusbee · 02-28-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

well I know on the Vortech site, it says the V-3 is capable of boosting up to 22psi with max power at 775hp with an efficiency of 78%, is that what hes referring to?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

What exactly are you referring to?

This is what I was talking about from earlier. I actually got crossed up in the forum here. Somehow, I made a multi-quote reply from one thread to another. Kinda messed me up. I am going to stick to one tab at a time now, lol.

LiquidZ · 02-28-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roplusbee

This is what I was talking about from earlier. I actually got crossed up in the forum here. Somehow, I made a multi-quote reply from one thread to another. Kinda messed me up. I am going to stick to one tab at a time now, lol.

Gotcha. Those numbers are actually properties of the compressor regardless of the engine its feeding.

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Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 535	LOL.. what are you trying to do Liquid spin these poor guys brains? To save everyone from googling to death, here's a good article which gives you some insight on adiabatic efficiency and what he's discussing: Supercharger & Blower Basics - Tech Article - Chevy High Performance Magazine As far as this exact supercharger, and our setup, I'd have to refer to our engineers to get an idea of what this lays out to, but I will tell you the system has been designed around the fact that we're not pushing the current S/C to the limit, and within the current series we've spec'd, there is also additional trims that can support much more..

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