Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

kdoske · 02-24-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

Hearing that you will offer a raw aluminum finish is good news. I was thinking of possibly doing some sort of wrinkle finish on the manifold. Well, it sounds right in my head at least...

I know what you mean. Polished engine parts belong on Motorcycles and show cars. I actually like the wrinkled powder coat look.

LiquidZ · 02-24-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

The wrinkle finish would look pretty cool! I think that we will actually be doing a wrinkle finish, although I'm not sure on that. It's funny because wrinkle finish looks really good on the manifolds but smooth black powder coat looks really good on the charge pipe where a wrinkle black would look too industrial in my opinion...Kind of odd how those two different finishes on two different components right next to each other can look so good.

I just realized I completely misread your post. For some reason I thought you were talking about the intake manifold finish, and not the supercharger's. This makes more sense as Vortech always offers a satin finish and a polished finish.

But, doing a wrinkle finish on the intake manifold would look good. Its just a matter of making everything else match well.

Rickey89 · 02-24-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

three deep breaths, woozaaa.
"I will not check stillens sc thread 35 times a day like RCZ does"

Repeat.

i thought my 3 a day average was bad, RCZ if you die of a heart attack waiting can i have your z? i could have the brilliant silver ( Im not using the acronym for my color because it sounds like im poking fun of my z ) for the daytime z and your pg as the night time z.

Mike · 02-24-2010, 09:55 PM

I like candy red, like on my last 350Z!!!!!!

FuszNissan · 02-24-2010, 10:38 PM

RCZ · 02-24-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey89

i thought my 3 a day average was bad, RCZ if you die of a heart attack waiting can i have your z? i could have the brilliant silver ( Im not using the acronym for my color because it sounds like im poking fun of my z ) for the daytime z and your pg as the night time z.

Haha, nah no heart attack here.

I'm on here so often because this is how I take breaks from work. It distracts me and takes my stress away. I can't be the only one on this boat. I think if I worked at a place like Stillen I'd be happy all the time.

Back on topic... for me its either polished or covered in some sort of heat insulation. My last turbo was that cast aluminum finish and it looked terrible, I want polished or wrinkle-something this time around.

fstrnldr · 02-24-2010, 11:36 PM

Few things ....

As far as not publishing numbers, i can respect waiting until the end to publish the final data. However i will continue to give you **** about it because i like to learn the tech side of things, and that comes more from trial and failure, not just seeing the final results.

The "ugly bracket" .... i would say make it match the mounting bracket that is used to stabilize the SC mounting plate. That way it looks more like a kit.

As far as intake manifold coating ... why would anyone want to cover up the aluminum? if you are modifying your car with a supercharger, you want more power right? why close up the pores in the aluminum and reduce the surface area losing possible cooling potential?

Buddy Revell · 02-25-2010, 09:38 AM

Kyle or Josh,
You guys running Stillen cats and exhaust during testing or stock ones?

NYBladeZ · 02-25-2010, 09:49 AM

wow that is a sweet lookin z33, love those roots type blowers

Josh@STILLEN · 02-25-2010, 10:15 AM

Currently it just has just the STILLEN CBE on the car. We also expect 99% of S/C owners to have an aftermarket exhaust..

More to come later on additional products beyond the CBE..

G Fo12ce · 02-25-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fstrnldr

As far as intake manifold coating ... why would anyone want to cover up the aluminum? if you are modifying your car with a supercharger, you want more power right? why close up the pores in the aluminum and reduce the surface area losing possible cooling potential?

I think whether raw or wrinkle finish it won't make much difference on heat soak. As far as air temp the intercooler is inside the manifold and right before the air enters the heads. I think maybe the only thing that would help with heat soak would be something like a ceramic coating.

RCZ · 02-25-2010, 11:53 AM

^ I can think of one other thing that will help with heat soak

G Fo12ce · 02-25-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

^ I can think of one other thing that will help with heat soak

No hood?

Kyle@STILLEN · 02-25-2010, 12:57 PM

The powdercoating will not act as a heat soak or cause any additional issues with heat. I understand what you're saying about not covering the aluminum intake manifold and allowing the air to cool it down better but at the same time, there is virtually no external air flow at the top of the engine that would do a sufficient job in additional cooling. The air coming up there has already gone through all of the coolers, traveled around or over the engine block and managed to find its way to the top of the engine. By the time it gets to the intake manifold its ability to aid in cooling will be minimal.

EVERY supercharger manufacturer uses some sort of coating on their intake manifolds. It looks a lot better than leaving it just raw. Some people will definitely like the raw look but the vast majority will like the black powder coating or similar finish. But, there will absolutely not be a problem with heat soak or anything like that.

Kyle@STILLEN · 02-25-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I like candy red, like on my last 350Z!!!!!!

Looks like a lot of work you put in there! Looks good!

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Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 306	The powdercoating will not act as a heat soak or cause any additional issues with heat. I understand what you're saying about not covering the aluminum intake manifold and allowing the air to cool it down better but at the same time, there is virtually no external air flow at the top of the engine that would do a sufficient job in additional cooling. The air coming up there has already gone through all of the coolers, traveled around or over the engine block and managed to find its way to the top of the engine. By the time it gets to the intake manifold its ability to aid in cooling will be minimal. EVERY supercharger manufacturer uses some sort of coating on their intake manifolds. It looks a lot better than leaving it just raw. Some people will definitely like the raw look but the vast majority will like the black powder coating or similar finish. But, there will absolutely not be a problem with heat soak or anything like that.