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Originally Posted by fstrnldr Oh i thought you said earlier it hadn't been put on the Z yet since it was being used for the aero parts development. Its getting

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Old 02-22-2010, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oh i thought you said earlier it hadn't been put on the Z yet since it was being used for the aero parts development. Its getting hard to keep track of everything going on with the supercharged development for this chassis.
No problem.. there's a lot going on over here.

A lot of pieces have been designed and fitted onto the Z, just not the complete kit as of yet, it went to the modeling shop for some of the aero pieces.. but the kit will be fine with some small differences.
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Numbers are sounding good, but of course you have to see a dyno to really know how good it is. As we all know peak numbers really don't mean anything except for a dyno queen.
Well said. It's all about useable power, not just peak numbers.
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Josh, you may not want to answer this but I'm just dying here... Do you think you could give us like a worst case scenario date for us to see some real numbers and actual testing? or is it still too far out to tell? Thanks
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Josh, you may not want to answer this but I'm just dying here... Do you think you could give us like a worst case scenario date for us to see some real numbers and actual testing? or is it still too far out to tell? Thanks
I'll take this one Josh...

WORST case scenario...February....2011...

Seriously though, we're very close to having more information ready for release.
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I'll take this one Josh...

WORST case scenario...February....2011...

Seriously though, we're very close to having more information ready for release.
Very close as in? February 2011? haha
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lol, thanks Kyle... I knew I could count on an answer out of one of you guys!
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Kyle - a release date seems overdue here. What's the real story...by end of March?

370z owners are going other directions every month this lags...come on, help us sell some of these for you.
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370z owners are going other directions every month this lags...come on, help us sell some of these for you.
We are right on target with our release date of the end of February to the beginning of March. I actually went on vacation on the 10th and just returned yesterday so I got the full download of where we stand on everything and I'd like to pass all of that information along to you guys.

For starter's a little recap on what has happened over the past few weeks. As you all know we had a delay from our intercooler supplier. They lagged on getting us our prototype but this actually turned out to be a good thing. Our initial design included a cast aluminum end tank which mounts to the front of the intake manifold. Because of the delays our intercooler supplier caused we had them simply send us the core and we had our in house machine shop prototype a couple of end tanks for us. Then we sent it all to our in house fabrication shop to be welded. Well, they turned out amazing!!! Nothing is sexier than machined billet aluminum and these things are gorgeous!!! So, we have actually decided to incorporate the machined billet aluminum end tank into the final design.

After the intercooler was installed the next thing to find out is if the intercooler would cause a boost drop across the face of the cooler. We are proud to report that we did not lose any boost pressure at all. We are running identical boost pressure before and after the intercooler.

Next we needed to find out how efficient the intercooler is at cooling and OH MY GOD!!! It is actually working better than we imagined. We have a temperature sensor right at the exit of the supercharger where the air is hottest and we have drilled the manifold to mount an additional sensor at the bottom of the manifold to measure air temperature directly before the air is taken into the engine. The difference in air temperature is truely impressive but most impressive is the consistency. Run after run after run the air temperature stayed nice and low.

One thing that all of us (including the forum members) have all been concerned about are oil temperatures. I am extremely proud to say that our test car (G37 coupe with auto trans.) is currently equipped with the intercooler, race oil cooler, and transmission cooler. And, there is still plenty of air flow to the radiator.

As Josh mentioned the tune has not been finished as of yet and we are laying down well over 400 horsepower at the wheels on a very safe amount of boost on an automatic gearbox car with large, heavy show wheels. You might say, who cares what kind of wheels are on the car? Well, we performed a test a few years ago and we actually found that our Nissan Titan truck lost 30 horsepower when we removed the O.E. 18's and installed the big, heavy, 22 inch chromed show wheels. The additional weight of the wheels require that much extra power to turn.

We have begun ordering parts and started the machining so that we are ready to ship as soon as possible. We do plan on offering an early bird special for those early adopter's who want to pre-order their kits and we hope to have that information ready for you all very soon however we do not want to release any information on price with out having the supporting dyno's and video's to give everyone all of the information.

We have finalized the two primary kits, street and tuner, and those prices are set. Obviously we're not going to release the pricing without supporting dyno's and video's. and we are discussing the best way to handle the race kit.
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As Josh mentioned the tune has not been finished as of yet and we are laying down well over 400 horsepower at the wheels on a very safe amount of boost on an automatic gearbox car with large, heavy show wheels.
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After the intercooler was installed the next thing to find out is if the intercooler would cause a boost drop across the face of the cooler. We are proud to report that we did not lose any boost pressure at all. We are running identical boost pressure before and after the intercooler.
I believe that's the benefit of an air-water intercooler? An air-air would have a pressure drop across it since the compressor is what forces the air through it. Yes I've been doing some reading

My question is though, does that intercooler use the same coolant from the radiator? Or does it have its own supply? And what pumps the coolant through that intercooler? Sorry for all the questions Kyle
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I believe that's the benefit of an air-water intercooler? An air-air would have a pressure drop across it since the compressor is what forces the air through it. Yes I've been doing some reading

My question is though, does that intercooler use the same coolant from the radiator? Or does it have its own supply? And what pumps the coolant through that intercooler? Sorry for all the questions Kyle
True, however you have to keep in mind that we are putting a radiator/intercooler directly in the air path so there was the potential that it could cause a bit of a blockage and reduce the boost pressure. Fortunately though the intercooler is extremely efficient and working perfectly.

As Josh showed the intercooler does have its own isolated coolant path.
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Nice, good update and I'm on the boat for the early bird race kit

What kind of dyno are you using for testing and what did the stock g37 pull on it?

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Great info, Kyle. Have you decided to go with a new engine cover like you mentioned a while back?
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Great info, Kyle. Have you decided to go with a new engine cover like you mentioned a while back?
Absolutely!

We might have a couple of different options for this so it will probably be an item that people can purchase seperately. We'll probably partner with a CF manufacturer and for the less expensive route we make something out of urethane. Right now the priority is performance and funtionality. We will worry about the engine cover a little later on but yes there absolutely is a plan on covering up those ugly valve covers and what not.
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