Nissan 370Z Forum  

Critique my parts list...

Originally Posted by ChaseZ Oil Pan? I love my Gamma oil pan. No oil cooler, TT, and Florida summer heat and so far no oil temp problems. I do not

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree26Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-02-2016, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Jayhovah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: St. Pete, FL
Posts: 3,848
Drives: 520whp Fire Breather
Rep Power: 86953
Jayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseZ View Post
Oil Pan?
I love my Gamma oil pan. No oil cooler, TT, and Florida summer heat and so far no oil temp problems. I do not track, though, so I can not speak to the performance in that setting. Also changing the oil filter is more of a pain.. planning to relocate mine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseZ View Post
Should I/Am I going to need a fuel pressure regulator?

Think I'll back down to 750 injectors. The 1000 was just in case I ever ran e85 but the closest pump is like 10 hours drive from here lol. Will plan on having a 103 race gas map however.
What are your power goals again? If you are going to skip E85 and 1000cc injectors... you can probably also skip the regulator, fuel return, Walbro 485 pump/accessories as well. Just retrofit the stock assembly with an Aeromotive 340 to go with your 750cc injectors and factory pressure regulator/fuel system. This would save a huge chunk.

FYI - I am only running 600cc injectors and a Walbro 255 in my otherwise-stock fuel system and have not had issues though I do feel it is a little small. If I had to do it over again I would do what I suggested above. This all depends on goals of course. I am in the mid 500's and do not have plans of increasing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseZ View Post
I hear that. From what I can see it looks darn good though, more than good enough for the time being.

Can't wait til I've collected enough parts to start this install
Thanks!

I would recommend you start installing anything you can right away to save time later... for instance, go ahead and install/wire your gauges and route the sensor wiring to the engine compartment.. That will save you at least half a day when you are like THIS CLOSE to driving it for the first time =)

Also anything you can complete in stages and will help, especially if you have parts ahead of time. For instance, install the whole fuel system and ask Seb to provide you a stock Map scaled for the bigger injectors... That way you can check-out that portion of the build and troubleshoot it without having changed a bunch of other things (if necessary)... and it will save you a day or more when you get the parts for the rest of the install.

Looking forward to your build!!
wideglideleon, ChaseZ and Senna-F1 like this.
__________________
2013 Gun Metallic Sport - Gamma V3 Twin Turbogized
DIY Gamma V3 TT Install * Jayhovah's Gamma V3 TT Install Pic'Z and Vid'Z * DIY: Washer Reservoir for the Boosted
Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb
You've got a twin turbo sound system, I think you met your audio goals.
Jayhovah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2016, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChaseZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,799
Drives: 16 370z
Rep Power: 94685
ChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhovah View Post
What are your power goals again? If you are going to skip E85 and 1000cc injectors... you can probably also skip the regulator, fuel return, Walbro 485 pump/accessories as well. Just retrofit the stock assembly with an Aeromotive 340 to go with your 750cc injectors and factory pressure regulator/fuel system. This would save a huge chunk.

FYI - I am only running 600cc injectors and a Walbro 255 in my otherwise-stock fuel system and have not had issues though I do feel it is a little small. If I had to do it over again I would do what I suggested above. This all depends on goals of course. I am in the mid 500's and do not have plans of increasing.

Looking forward to your build!!
If I can hit 500whp I'll be a real happy camper. How realistic that is I'm not sure, but it's a goal regardless. 450 would be acceptable but would leave me wanting more I think.

I was starting to think along the same lines. That Walbro is only $135 from Seb so don't mind that cost. The CJ hat and return system is a like $400 not including the regulator which is another couple hundred, so might consider holding off on that and see how it goes. There's another $600 plus shipping I can try and get away with - and can always add later if need be.

What are you running for a clutch? That's one area prices are all over the map. Seb did recommend his kit for $1500 plus the CSC, but realize there are some lower price alternatives. Looking at maybe a Southbend Stage 3 for $600 plus flywheel and CSC. There is another $500 at least back into the budget.

There, just potentially saved $1200 usd. I certainly don't want to take a chance at running lean and causing problems though, so whatever my list changes I will certainly float past Seb for his expert opinion. He is the one that has to tune the car with these parts at the end of the day!

I've been told a way to save on the A/A and yield similar results but want more information on it first. Theoretically there's another $1000 to be saved easily but am approaching this cautiously.

I don't expect to pare it down to nothing, and don't want to push things into the trouble zone but not getting things I certainly should, but Im pretty sure there is middle ground to be found where things will still work out as planned.
ChaseZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2016, 02:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Jayhovah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: St. Pete, FL
Posts: 3,848
Drives: 520whp Fire Breather
Rep Power: 86953
Jayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseZ View Post
If I can hit 500whp I'll be a real happy camper. How realistic that is I'm not sure, but it's a goal regardless. 450 would be acceptable but would leave me wanting more I think.

I was starting to think along the same lines. That Walbro is only $135 from Seb so don't mind that cost. The CJ hat and return system is a like $400 not including the regulator which is another couple hundred, so might consider holding off on that and see how it goes. There's another $600 plus shipping I can try and get away with - and can always add later if need be.

What are you running for a clutch? That's one area prices are all over the map. Seb did recommend his kit for $1500 plus the CSC, but realize there are some lower price alternatives. Looking at maybe a Southbend Stage 3 for $600 plus flywheel and CSC. There is another $500 at least back into the budget.

There, just potentially saved $1200 usd. I certainly don't want to take a chance at running lean and causing problems though, so whatever my list changes I will certainly float past Seb for his expert opinion. He is the one that has to tune the car with these parts at the end of the day!

I've been told a way to save on the A/A and yield similar results but want more information on it first. Theoretically there's another $1000 to be saved easily but am approaching this cautiously.

I don't expect to pare it down to nothing, and don't want to push things into the trouble zone but not getting things I certainly should, but Im pretty sure there is middle ground to be found where things will still work out as planned.
The walbro pump is reasonable! I don't know what all you need to install it though - the Aeromotive unit will retrofit into the factory assembly pretty inexpensively.

For clutch I went with the Z1 Clutch/Flywheel setup and ZSpeed HDCSC (That I scored for $200 new in the classifieds!) - it's way cheaper than any other combo. I am perfectly happy with it, and the full face disk handles my torque just fine. Drives a lot like OEM with a little more pedal effort.

The CSC elimination kits seem to be increasing in popularity, but the HDCSC gets the job done perfectly fine, is cheaper, is closer to the design intended by the Nissan engineers and will be compatible with other mods.... For the sake of example - if you decided you wanted to do a bigger power build in the future and bought yourself a BP kit, I am pretty sure any of the CSC Elimination kits would be incompatible. I think people are jumping all over the elimination kits because the OEM CSC is such a PITA its like of like giving whatever QA jerk who approved that part a big middle finger. And it feels good to give that guy the finger. (Not to be confused with fingering that guy, which also may feel good depending on your persuasion).

I would absolutely NOT skip the Air-to-Air kit... Even if you get over the heat soak issues with the stillen design, keeping your ECU in the dark about what your intake temps are seems like a recipe for disaster to me.
Chuck33079 and wideglideleon like this.
__________________
2013 Gun Metallic Sport - Gamma V3 Twin Turbogized
DIY Gamma V3 TT Install * Jayhovah's Gamma V3 TT Install Pic'Z and Vid'Z * DIY: Washer Reservoir for the Boosted
Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb
You've got a twin turbo sound system, I think you met your audio goals.

Last edited by Jayhovah; 12-02-2016 at 02:45 PM.
Jayhovah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2016, 02:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChaseZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,799
Drives: 16 370z
Rep Power: 94685
ChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhovah View Post
The walbro pump is reasonable! I don't know what all you need to install it though - the Aeromotive unit will retrofit into the factory assembly pretty inexpensively.

For clutch I went with the Z1 Clutch/Flywheel setup and ZSpeed HDCSC (That I scored for $200 new in the classifieds!) - it's way cheaper than any other combo. I am perfectly happy with it, and the full face disk handles my torque just fine. Drives a lot like OEM with a little more pedal effort.

The CSC elimination kits seem to be increasing in popularity, but the HDCSC gets the job done perfectly fine, is cheaper, is closer to the design intended by the Nissan engineers and will be compatible with other mods.... For the sake of example - if you decided you wanted to do a bigger power build in the future and bought yourself a BP kit, I am pretty sure any of the CSC Elimination kits would be incompatible. I think people are jumping all over the elimination kits because the OEM CSC is such a PITA its like of like giving whatever QA jerk who approved that part a big middle finger. And it feels good to give that guy the finger. (Not to be confused with fingering that guy, which also may feel good depending on your persuasion).

I would absolutely NOT skip the Air-to-Air kit... Even if you get over the heat soak issues with the stillen design, keeping your ECU in the dark about what your intake temps are seems like a recipe for disaster to me.
I looked at that Z1 full face clutch kit as well; they also offer it with the CSC elimination kit at a bit of a savings. I was wondering about pedal pressure with the EK. I actually do want more pressure than OEM just don't want to overdo it. I drive the car just about daily in the spring/summer/fall.

Clutch is further down the list anyhow. I'll get to it, but prioritize the other things first. Same with the locker.

I don't mean skip the air to air, just piecing it together a different way. Still moving the MAF up the charge pipe towards the TB'S, still putting filter right on the blower, adding big intercooler etc. However these guys are leaving the aftercooler in place which I'm not sure I agree with. When I have and understand all the info that's been mentioned to me about building it that way I'll pass it along and see if it passes muster. I have ZERO intention of running the Stillen kit as is.

Install kit for the Walbro is like $30-40.

No fingering going on either way lol
ChaseZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2016, 03:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
Jayhovah's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: St. Pete, FL
Posts: 3,848
Drives: 520whp Fire Breather
Rep Power: 86953
Jayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond reputeJayhovah has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaseZ View Post
I don't mean skip the air to air, just piecing it together a different way. Still moving the MAF up the charge pipe towards the TB'S, still putting filter right on the blower, adding big intercooler etc. However these guys are leaving the aftercooler in place which I'm not sure I agree with. When I have and understand all the info that's been mentioned to me about building it that way I'll pass it along and see if it passes muster. I have ZERO intention of running the Stillen kit as is.

Install kit for the Walbro is like $30-40.
Ohh OK =) Good thing! If you do your own setup, you might consider stealing some design ideas from my Gamma V3 TT kit which relocates the power steering cooler more inboard (you could probably buy that bracket from them) so that you can bring the intercooler closer in. That way you can fit the OEM tow bar with some spacers instead of getting rid of it or having to buy the FI bar.

Good to know on the Walbro install kit! I don't have plans to upgrade, but you never know =)
__________________
2013 Gun Metallic Sport - Gamma V3 Twin Turbogized
DIY Gamma V3 TT Install * Jayhovah's Gamma V3 TT Install Pic'Z and Vid'Z * DIY: Washer Reservoir for the Boosted
Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb
You've got a twin turbo sound system, I think you met your audio goals.
Jayhovah is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Parts List Spstone Nismo 370Z 6 09-03-2015 02:45 AM
Parts List input and help appreciated Spstone Engine & Drivetrain 7 09-02-2015 08:49 PM
FI High Flow Cat parts list if you know? abakja1 Intake/Exhaust 0 01-18-2010 12:27 AM
370Z Parts List The Weapon The370Z.com Feedback, Suggestions & Questions 2 10-06-2009 01:14 AM
List of Chrome Parts earwicker7 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 15 06-15-2009 12:13 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2