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hc_416 01-16-2016 10:58 PM

BP turbo build/advice
 
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Hey guys, as the title says I am soon to be a proud owner of a Boosted Performance kit. I got the V 2.0 with the Ball Bearing upgrade. I am really excited and am looking forward to getting it up and running. I do need to square a few more parts away, but first I will post what I have done:

Car: 2008 g37s coupe six speed.
Intake/Exhaust Mods: Stillen cold air, Moterdyne Intake, Stillen headers, Stillen hHFC, Ark GrIP Exhaust
Drive Line Mods: South-Bend Fly Wheel and Cutch, Carbon fiber Drive-Shaft, 3.93 gears.
Cooling Mods: CSF Triple Pass Radiator, Stillen Oil Cooler
Suspension Mods: Ark Coilovers, Rays G’2 19 Inch
Tuning Mods: Up-Rev

What I would like to get and install with the kit is a close to feel to my current clutch that would handle the power, gauges and Boost controller. Looking For some advice on these mod’s. I will update when things start happening, but it wont be for a month or two. I will also try to get some pictures up but at the moment the file size is a little to big. This is what im thinking for these three parts.

Clutch: Twin disk for more tq holding and ability to get a firm but not two firm peddle.
Gauges: This I am not sure on, what do you guys suggest?
BC: Gready EC, I saw one for sale for 500 shipped.

Also my goals are 500-550 HP and 400-450 TQ, it will be on a stock block and heads.


January 21 update: I added my dyno sheets for guys to see were I am and why I went turbo. My lowest dyno was a bad shop, not going to talk trash but the numbers speak for themselves,(the shop that did the car is not named on the dyno sheet, if you want to know pm, CT residential only need apply). The second sheet was when they found the bad 02. I ended up making 320+ hp and 250+ TQ. Really nice numbers on a mustang. That shop is ECS in CT, I will contact them to do my Forced induction tune.

I am also still looking at the gauges, I like the Innovate and my brothers car has them as well. What do you guys think about the all in one gauge and a oil temp gauge? I think that covers the basic needs and will fit nice in a two pod side.


January 28 update: I went with the GReddy Profec and got the expansion kit for boost by gear. I am going to do a diff as well; so the way I am looking at my plan is boost by gear, go back to the OEM gearing and get better tires so I can put the power down. I want to finish up getting the electronics, all I have left to do in that area is the gauges. Looks like I will be going with oil temp/pressure and AFR. Would really like the GReddy ones but they are hard to find.

February 2 update: GReddy Profec and boost controller arrived!! The two units are a lot smaller than I thought. I need to find the English directions... they are only in Japaneses.

February 6 update: I believe i got the gauge I wanted. Gauge was a fake knock off and I got a refund for it and the sensors. I ended up getting Innvoate gauges, I got AFR and oil temp/pressure. I have boost on my Profec.

February 11 update: Picked up some DEI heat wrap and safety wire, still deciding were to get the turbo blanket from. Moving forward to say the least!

February 19 update: I have received my boost controller and map, both my gauges, heat wrap, turbo blanket and safety wire. I have on order the CJM s-1s fuel return system; I wanted the simpler design and a return due to past experience. I also am about to get the Galeforce pillar for the gauges. So it looks like clutch and diff are all that's left to look at.

February 23 update: Received my S1-s fuel kit!

March 11 update: Got my Southbend stage 3 clutch; I had the stage two... and the flywheel already but wanted the extra room for more power. I also got the rest of my parts, (turbo bag/wrap, fuel system/gauges/ clutch), I also ordered a gale force pillar but will have to wait a few. The wait is coming to a end soon!!!

May 20 update:

UPDATE!!!!

The good, I am tuned on about 8lbs, I made 405hp and 323tq on a mustang dyno.

The bad, I still have an air leak I need to find; when the revs start going higher up in the afr is going up and down and not staying steady.

The ugly, I went to a local tuner East Coast Swapper that was bad, (pm for more info I’m not here to trash anyone; or look at my google review), and I let them hold my car for about six weeks and got no tune.... I tell ya what, I wish I got that oil pump, but I had a budget.... 800 would have put me over, maybe next year

March 18 update!

I'm getting close guys, the block is assembled, heads are on and the engine is on the frame. The next step is to put on the turbo kit, then break it in; and after that it will be TUNE time!! I'm hoping to break 600 whp on a dyno jet so 500 on a mustang. I attached some more pics so everyone can see the progress.

So I made the switch to ECUTECk, and I have to say with the new tune the car seems to be running smoother and is a little more responsive. I had John Visconti tune it, and I have to say he did a good job. He got the car tuned and let me know I had a leak and let me know where to start looking. John is also sending my files over too ECUTECK and talking to Sasa. While the numbers were a little disappointing I am happy that I found a tuner that I could trust and work with to get the car were it needs to be. Now for the air leak; John recommend to start around the downstream 02. I called my installer at Exccelrate Performance and will be dropping off the car next Friday to get the leak fixed. Any advice is always welcome! I will put the dyno chart up in a day or two.

March 10th update!

I had my car for about a year and really enjoyed it. I had some kinks i needed to work out and decided to go with a bottom end build. I purchased a AAM bottom end, and will be having them do the install and tune. I hoping to hit 600 on a dyno jet!!! I choose AAM because they were close to CT, and they have a good reputation. I also didn't like the work from the CT shops. I have attached some photos of the build and look forward to seeing the end results I should have her back in about three weeks or so.

April 6 update!

Just talked to AAM, and got so preliminary numbers before I turn up the boost; she made 515 on 11 pounds of boost on a dyno jet. I'm now aiming for 600-630 at around 18 to 20 pounds of boost. I only have a 2.5 inch exhaust exiting to a y pipe, I think that will be my biggest bottle neck. I also have cats for emissions and that egg smell! What amount of boost do you guys think it will take to hit 600? I will have a bid or two and a dyno sheet in a few days!

April 10 update!

I got the preliminary numbers...... and it hit 600 on 19 pounds of boost! Unfortunate.... my boss rolled up on me on a job so that is all I know atm..... I will have more info in the A.M.

YzGyz 01-16-2016 11:49 PM

The BP kit is designed for OEM Header. Hope the stillen one is in OEM placement. The clutch and fly you have now (south bend) might be able to handle the power as is. Might want to give them a call. Can save you $$. A twin disk would be nice though. I have the e boost street EBC. Jwick has a profec. Maybe go ECUtech and skip the EBC and just get a boost gauge.

YzGyz

01-17-2016 12:03 PM

I have a brand new Greddy profec BC for sale pm'd you

stefonelee 01-17-2016 12:32 PM

What gauges besides air/fuel,and boost do you need to install to run with this kit. I'm in the process of picking up the 1.5 version of this kit.

zguynate 01-17-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stefonelee (Post 3390310)
What gauges besides air/fuel,and boost do you need to install to run with this kit. I'm in the process of picking up the 1.5 version of this kit.

A lot of guys go with an oil pressure gauge too. Other than those, thats enough for the average guy IMO.

zguynate 01-17-2016 12:51 PM

OP, you can go for a twin disk, however those are more expensive than your normal single disk clutches. There are several Southbend setups that will be less expensive and will handle whatever abuse you can throw at it at those torque levels. The Z1 combo would be sufficient as well.

YzGyz 01-17-2016 01:28 PM

You dint need any gauge to run the kit really. It's just a smart thing to do. I would be afr, boost, and oil pressure if I were to get a 3rd.

YzGyz

hc_416 01-17-2016 08:04 PM

Thanks guys for the responce, I had work today so that is why so slow to responed. When I talked to Sasha he said it would work. I emailed him what I had on the car and asked what I needed to get it up and running. I really enjoy the South Bend Clutch and will be looking at them again. I do want a stouter clutch and not a on off switch so I need to do a little more research. I want a BC for the boost by gear feature, i have 3.93 gears and would like to have a little less boost in first and maybe second. Will have to get her tuned and see what it feels like.


Quote:

he BP kit is designed for OEM Header. Hope the stillen one is in OEM placement. The clutch and fly you have now (south bend) might be able to handle the power as is. Might want to give them a call. Can save you $$. A twin disk would be nice though. I have the e boost street EBC. Jwick has a profec. Maybe go ECUtech and skip the EBC and just get a boost gauge.

YzGyz

elperuano 01-17-2016 08:13 PM

Which turbo did you go with? I have an 08 g37s 6 speed also.

hc_416 01-17-2016 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 3390533)
Which turbo did you go with? I have an 08 g37s 6 speed also.

I went with the 6266 BB

PongSanity 01-18-2016 08:06 AM

BP turbo build/advice
 
I like the innovate dual function gauges.... Depending on which south bend setup you have, you'll be fine. The stillen headers supposed to be in oem location. And that is a plus because I haven't seen anyone have headers with this kit. Or even the driveshaft upgrade. The 3.93 gears 'may or may not' be too much for the car... You decide on that one. Also look into a 1.5 way LSD and the CJM s1 fuel system upgrade. Worthy mods to have also. Sub'd for updates.


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hc_416 01-18-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PongSanity (Post 3390714)
I like the innovate dual function gauges.... Depending on which south bend setup you have, you'll be fine. The stillen headers supposed to be in oem location. And that is a plus because I haven't seen anyone have headers with this kit. Or even the driveshaft upgrade. The 3.93 gears 'may or may not' be too much for the car... You decide on that one. Also look into a 1.5 way LSD and the CJM s1 fuel system upgrade. Worthy mods to have also. Sub'd for updates.


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I agree all worthy upgrades, and down the rabbit hole I go!!!

jwick 01-18-2016 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3390107)
Maybe go ECUtech and skip the EBC and just get a boost gauge.

YzGyz

No go on Ecutek with a 2008 coupe.

jwick 01-18-2016 10:34 AM

I second what others are saying about the clutch. Call Joe at ZSpeed and see but you might have enough clutch now. If you are unhappy with the engagement spend the $250 and get the RJM pedal.

My opinion on minimum gauges - Boost, AFR, Fuel Pressure and Oil Pressure. I like to monitor oil temperature too but that's me.

I'm not familiar enough with EBC which offer boost by gear but I believe that some of TurboSmart ones do.

hc_416 01-18-2016 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3390861)
I second what others are saying about the clutch. Call Joe at ZSpeed and see but you might have enough clutch now. If you are unhappy with the engagement spend the $250 and get the RJM pedal.

My opinion on minimum gauges - Boost, AFR, Fuel Pressure and Oil Pressure. I like to monitor oil temperature too but that's me.

I'm not familiar enough with EBC which offer boost by gear but I believe that some of TurboSmart ones do.

I will give Joe a call in a week or two, busy week at work. I didn't buy the highest end clutch set up I think its only good for 400 hp. Will have to double check. Will the RJM pedal help if I I have a very stiff clutch?

I want to get a boost gauges, afr, and oil temp. As for the other I would like too, but I am not sure were I will put them. I see you drive a g37 as well, were did you mount your gauges and with what?

Do you guys think that a BC is even worth it, or am I just wasting my money? I really like the idea of controlled boost in the lower gears so I can hook up .

jwick 01-18-2016 10:29 PM

BP turbo build/advice
 
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...95a3506390.jpg

GaleForce custom pillar.

EBC is definitely worth it as gate springs will flutter up top. The controller will keep boost constant. Getting one with boost by gear won't cost much more just take a little more to install.

Not sure if RJM helps with pressure but it can be adjusted to give you a larger contact window which I brought up because you said you didn't want an on/off switch.

Boosted Performance 01-18-2016 11:23 PM

The GaleForce pillar is a really nice product.

Last summer I installed an Innovate all in one (EBC, A/F, boost/vacuum) gauge in the GaleForce pillar and it turned out great:

Product: SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller Gauge

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps8gr59djm.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ-4eDEbPgY

I can include these with the kit for those that are interested.

PongSanity 01-19-2016 06:36 AM

Sasha gets deals on everything! I too have a G37s and preparing for a BP V1.5 or V2 kit. I thought about getting a boost by gear/speed EBC. But our cars hook pretty fast so I'm sticking with the innovate all in one. Pairing it with the innovate oil temp/pressure gauge with GaleForce 2 gauge custom pillar.


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tonyHTX 01-19-2016 10:12 AM

I vote for GaleForce pillar and Innovate SCG-1 as well! (I may be just a little biased)

http://i58.tinypic.com/30wmhhf.jpg

Another option is the Tanabe REVEL gauges, they look nice!

jwick 01-19-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3391792)
I vote for GaleForce pillar and Innovate SCG-1 as well! (I may be just a little biased)

http://i58.tinypic.com/30wmhhf.jpg

Another option is the Tanabe REVEL gauges, they look nice!

Is that a rolling picture?

tonyHTX 01-19-2016 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3391799)
Is that a rolling picture?

I'm pretty sure I was stopped..? Maybe the phone bokeh makes the car in the back blurry? I can see their stop lamps on. :icon17:

hc_416 01-19-2016 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3391537)
The GaleForce pillar is a really nice product.

Last summer I installed an Innovate all in one (EBC, A/F, boost/vacuum) gauge in the GaleForce pillar and it turned out great:

Product: SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller Gauge

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps8gr59djm.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ-4eDEbPgY

I can include these with the kit for those that are interested.

So does this gauge/bc, allow boost by gear, or am I over thinking it and just dont mash it in first gear? I only have 275's on the back.

tonyHTX 01-19-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3391814)
So does this gauge/bc, allow boost by gear, or am I over thinking it and just dont mash it in first gear? I only have 275's on the back.

No it does not have boost by gear. With a proper alignment - no stance / ridiculous negative camber - and the power level you are aiming for the car should be driveable with a good set of tires. The tires may spin a little depending on how cold they are, but I don't think the car would be stepping out so much that it would be uncontrollable.

jwick 01-19-2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3391804)
I'm pretty sure I was stopped..? Maybe the phone bokeh makes the car in the back blurry? I can see their stop lamps on. :icon17:


I was just looking at AFR in the 20s and figured you were rolling to the stop light.

jwick 01-19-2016 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3391839)
No it does not have boost by gear. With a proper alignment - no stance / ridiculous negative camber - and the power level you are aiming for the car should be driveable with a good set of tires. The tires may spin a little depending on how cold they are, but I don't think the car would be stepping out so much that it would be uncontrollable.


I have 275s and first gear is worthless. There's also enough torque to step out on you in 2nd & 3rd when the turbo spools up.

tonyHTX 01-19-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3391845)
I was just looking at AFR in the 20s and figured you were rolling to the stop light.

Remember my current ECU has always struggled with idle at a stop. My AFR has never been stoic at idle :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3391849)
I have 275s and first gear is worthless. There's also enough torque to step out on you in 2nd & 3rd when the turbo spools up.

But hopefully it doesn't step out to the point that you can't control the car? Even when my car steps out I can still keep her straight without too much effort which is why figured he should be ok.

Now, coming out of a turn 17 at MSR onto the pit straight and getting on the throttle with the rear stepping out is a different/scary story..

hc_416 01-20-2016 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3391537)
The GaleForce pillar is a really nice product.

Last summer I installed an Innovate all in one (EBC, A/F, boost/vacuum) gauge in the GaleForce pillar and it turned out great:

Product: SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller Gauge

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps8gr59djm.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ-4eDEbPgY

I can include these with the kit for those that are interested.

Really nice gauge, but I want to look around a little more. It is defenitily in the running because I don't want a five gauge pillar. Hoping to get two multi gauge and a BC. I just want to be able to use first and second gear, I could go to longer final drive if I make enough. Were do I get in contact with Gale force? I do like the pillar.

P.S. I will post up the two dyno sheets I have for my car to. It will take a few days(work).

PongSanity 01-20-2016 09:05 PM

Msg GaleForce on this forum. He responds fairly quickly. He probably will msg you first after reading this. Very avid reader on here. You'd have to do a lil research to get the boost by gear/speed boost controller. I'm only getting two the innovate oil temp/pressure dual gauge and the innovate AFR/boost controller/shift light gauge.


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Boosted Performance 01-20-2016 09:11 PM

2nd gear traction should nor be an issue with the right tire and camber. I have a set of 295 AD08's on my car and in the summer they hook in 1st with 460pwhp and 420ft/tq. RE11'S will also do well in similar conditions. My old PS2's wouldn't hook in 2nd with the same power.

YzGyz 01-21-2016 12:51 AM

Shasha, do you drag race? I also have a request of a picture of the underside of a car on your lift. I always wondered how much or what can be worked on with e midrise lift.

YzGyz

EliteXpress 01-21-2016 02:07 AM

BP 2016 370z
 
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...118_183112.jpg

Sold My 2010 Auto Supercharged Stillen 370z Christmas Eve. Picked up a 2016 370z Sport 6spd.:stirthepot:

Jumping right back into the Forced Induction arena I went with the BP Turbo Kit!:driving:

Ordered So Far:
Fast Intentions 2.5" CBE
BP Turbo Tuner Kit with upgraded 6266 Ball Bearing
BP Fuel Pump Voltage Booster Relay Kit
Z1 Sprung Hub Six Puck Disc Clutch And Flywheel Combo
ZSpeed HD Clutch Slave Cylinder
Motul 5.1 Performance Brake Fluid
Rotella T6 Full Synthetic
Red Line MT-85

Items To Purchase Next:
CJM S1 Fuel Return System
Aeromotive Stealth 340lph
DeatschWerks 1200cc Fuel Injectors
SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller & Wideband O² Gauge

Please suggest any supporting mods needed towards the build! :tiphat:

Cell 01-21-2016 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3393411)
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...118_183112.jpg

Sold My 2010 Auto Supercharged Stillen 370z Christmas Eve. Picked up a 2016 370z Sport 6spd.:stirthepot:

Jumping right back into the Forced Induction arena I went with the BP Turbo Kit!:driving:

Ordered So Far:
Fast Intentions 2.5" CBE
BP Turbo Tuner Kit with upgraded 6266 Ball Bearing
BP Fuel Relay Kit
Z1 Sprung Hub Six Puck Disc Clutch And Flywheel Combo
ZSpeed HD Clutch Slave Cylinder
Motul 5.1 Performance Brake Fluid
Red Line MT-85

Items To Purchase Next:
CJM S1 Fuel Return System
Aeromotive Stealth 340lph
DeatschWerks 1200cc Fuel Injectors
SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller & Wideband O² Gauge

Please suggest any supporting mods needed towards the build! :tiphat:

I thought the BP kit comes with a 340lph pump already?

Should talk to Sasha about the 1200cc fuel injectors and just by it with the kit instead of having him send you the smaller fuel injectors and end up not using them.

Should consider either the CJM or AAM intake manifold in teh future.

:tup:

EliteXpress 01-21-2016 03:06 AM

I went with the tuner version of this kit, still a few months out for some of the actual install.

Figured I could pick up a few of the items local in State and preserve a little Money'$

Thanks for your input. :tup:

jwick 01-21-2016 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3393413)
I went with the tuner version of this kit, still a few months out for some of the actual install.

Figured I could pick up a few of the items local in State and preserve a little Money'$

Thanks for your input. :tup:


Just out of curiosity, why 1200cc injectors? Do you have future plans for a built motor?

I don't think the 340 pump can pump enough fuel to ever use the capacity of the injector.

I'd go with Injector Dynamics 1000cc.

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 07:27 AM

I did the tuner kit. Ended up having to order the pump install kit from CJM for $80. That put my build back about a week as I did pump last.

I hate pulling the pump!! Have probably done it 12 times between this and my old 350.

jwick 01-21-2016 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393459)
I did the tuner kit. Ended up having to order the pump install kit from CJM for $80. That put my build back about a week as I did pump last.



I hate pulling the pump!! Have probably done it 12 times between this and my old 350.


Yeah. Discounting the hose feed and getting the canister out without banging the float sucks.

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 07:34 AM

Yeah, and that ribbed line protector grabs every frickin time!

TopgunZ 01-21-2016 07:36 AM

Honestly, If I ever did this kit again, I would no doubt come up with a way to alert me if my scavenge pump was not running.

Boosted Performance 01-21-2016 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3393398)
Shasha, do you drag race? I also have a request of a picture of the underside of a car on your lift. I always wondered how much or what can be worked on with e midrise lift.



YzGyz

You can get to everything with this lift:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...pssmvcehsp.jpg




Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 3393412)
I thought the BP kit comes with a 340lph pump already?

Should talk to Sasha about the 1200cc fuel injectors and just by it with the kit instead of having him send you the smaller fuel injectors and end up not using them.

Should consider either the CJM or AAM intake manifold in teh future.

:tup:

Yes, the standard pump is 340lph.

I have Bosch EV14 1000cc injectors, and they are available for $550 shipped for those that are looking to go that rout.

jwick 01-21-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3393481)
I have Bosch EV14 1000cc injectors, and they are available for $550 shipped for those that are looking to go that rout.

Sasha - On the upgrade to 1000cc Bosch, do you need new pigtails or is it plug and play with the 750cc that came with the kit?


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