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Jayhovah 01-21-2016 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3393468)
Yeah, and that ribbed line protector grabs every frickin time!
When I did mine the gas fumes made me sick and I had to stop for about 4 hours... which was stressful because I needed to tune the next day and be on my way back to FL the day after that!

Boosted Performance 01-21-2016 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3393505)
Sasha - On the upgrade to 1000cc Bosch, do you need new pigtails or is it plug and play with the 750cc that came with the kit?
Same pigtails, and since you already have them it would be $500 to you.

jwick 01-21-2016 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3393638)
Same pigtails, and since you already have them it would be $500 to you.
Nice. So a follow-up question. How do the Bosch compare to Injector Dynamics?

PongSanity 01-21-2016 10:17 AM
^^^^ good question....


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YzGyz 01-21-2016 10:41 AM
Ah, it's a pit style!! Very nice!!

YzGyz

Boosted Performance 01-21-2016 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3393651)
Nice. So a follow-up question. How do the Bosch compare to Injector Dynamics?
ID's are Bosch injectors. ID uses different testing standards for matching the injectors. The ones I get are flow matched per 6 injectors, and are all within 1% of each other.

I have sold 100's of them and never had a single issue or complaint.

jwick 01-21-2016 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 3393774)
ID's are Bosch injectors. ID uses different testing standards for matching the injectors. The ones I get are flow matched per 6 injectors, and are all within 1% of each other.

I have sold 100's of them and never had a single issue or complaint.
That's good to know. I'll definitely be in the market for 1000cc injectors at some point.

EliteXpress 01-21-2016 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3393451)
Just out of curiosity, why 1200cc injectors? Do you have future plans for a built motor?

I don't think the 340 pump can pump enough fuel to ever use the capacity of the injector.

I'd go with Injector Dynamics 1000cc.
No plans to build anytime soon, just was looking to have more than needed as with my supercharged Z I ran 850cc on 9lbs and ran 85% duty cycle.

I am open to 1000cc.

Thanks

jwick 01-21-2016 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3393816)
No plans to build anytime soon, just was looking to have more than needed as with my supercharged Z I ran 850cc on 9lbs and ran 85% duty cycle.

I am open to 1000cc.

Thanks
Unless you are pushing enough power to support 1200cc I'd be worried about turndown ability of that size injector.

EliteXpress 01-21-2016 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3393817)
Unless you are pushing enough power to support 1200cc I'd be worried about turndown ability of that size injector.
Gotcha.:tiphat:

PongSanity 01-21-2016 01:23 PM
1200cc would be more than perfect if you have e85 plans but you can also achieve that with 1000cc and the 340 pump. 1000cc is your best bet. with the 750cc you'll be at 75-80% duty cycle...

EliteXpress 01-21-2016 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PongSanity (Post 3393874)
1200cc would be more than perfect if you have e85 plans but you can also achieve that with 1000cc and the 340 pump. 1000cc is your best bet. with the 750cc you'll be at 75-80% duty cycle...
e85 is the plan.:driving:

jwick 01-21-2016 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3393891)
e85 is the plan.:driving:
My end goal is E85 and all I need is 1000cc and return fuel system.

hc_416 01-21-2016 09:40 PM
update first post

jwick 01-21-2016 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3394265)
update first post

Question from first post update, what does the all in one gauge monitor?

hc_416 01-21-2016 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3394268)
Question from first post update, what does the all in one gauge monitor?
SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller Gauge

This one, it has about what you need to start off. I do like the greddy profect a lot. It has boost by gear, and I can mount it in my ash trey when not using it. I would really like to keep the 3.93 in the rear. I was thinking the profect with a af gauge and oil temp. or just the one gauge with the bc, af, and shift light.

PongSanity 01-22-2016 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3394268)
Question from first post update, what does the all in one gauge monitor?
The innovate all in one gauge monitors AFR (Wide band), boost as well as adjust boost, shift gauge and solenoid duty percentage. It also has other capabilities

check these vids out: https://youtu.be/RJ-4eDEbPgY & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxMYon9AEU

jwick 01-22-2016 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3394316)
SCG-1 Solenoid Boost Controller Gauge

This one, it has about what you need to start off. I do like the greddy profect a lot. It has boost by gear, and I can mount it in my ash trey when not using it. I would really like to keep the 3.93 in the rear. I was thinking the profect with a af gauge and oil temp. or just the one gauge with the bc, af, and shift light.
On a G, which you have, I would want Oil Pressure/Temp since we don't get those. Also I recommend monitoring fuel pressure.

I'd look into running this

Zeitronix LCD : Four value display for the Zt-2 Wideband Engine Datalogging System

I seriously considered it until I stumble across the Greddy Multi-Gauge

stefonelee 01-22-2016 03:34 PM
How long did the kit install take jwick for the bp kit?

jwick 01-22-2016 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stefonelee (Post 3395024)
How long did the kit install take jwick for the bp kit?

My buddy and I did it over two weekends. I'd call it 4 days total. I could of done it faster but I didn't want to rush it. Remember that I was the first to install it on a G so there was some wasted time going back and forth making everything work. I also am the only one I know of that used a remote mount thermostatic filter relocation plate so we had to deal with an extra oil line.

That timeline included all the gauges and electrical work too.

TopgunZ 01-22-2016 04:07 PM
It also depends on how smoothly everything goes. You can get a big head start by downloading the PDF of the build instructions and doing as much for-work as possible.

Things like: Taking off bumper, crash bar, intakes, sway bar, manifold, injectors, plugs, cats, pump, etc.... Then when your kit shows up you can just start whipping that shitt on.

I bet you could have it all on in 20-25 hours if you do all the removal work before you get the kit.

After having done it already I bet a guy could put this kit on in a single weekend if he didn't have to reference the instructions and everything went smoothly.

stefonelee 01-22-2016 04:17 PM
Thanks guys for the heads up. I will get a head start on it this weekend. The only thing I'm not looking forward to is the demon bolt removal.

jwick 01-22-2016 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3395057)
It also depends on how smoothly everything goes. You can get a big head start by downloading the PDF of the build instructions and doing as much for-work as possible.



Things like: Taking off bumper, crash bar, intakes, sway bar, manifold, injectors, plugs, cats, pump, etc.... Then when your kit shows up you can just start whipping that shitt on.



I bet you could have it all on in 20-25 hours if you do all the removal work before you get the kit.



After having done it already I bet a guy could put this kit on in a single weekend if he didn't have to reference the instructions and everything went smoothly.

Just kit with no jewelry, I'm pretty sure a couple guys could knock this out in one weekend if one of them had done it before. It'd be a long as weekend though. Of course the V-1.5-2 IC piping helped a ton with install time.

GaleForce 01-23-2016 12:10 AM
A long weekend (4 days) for install is easily doable.

EliteXpress 01-23-2016 11:48 AM
Anyone running Oil Catch Can with there BP Kit?

jwick 01-23-2016 12:03 PM
I want to but on top of a good setup being pretty pricey, I haven't found a good location for it in an already crowded engine bay.

mad_jelly 01-23-2016 12:15 PM
I threw both oil coolers behind the intercooler, relocated the ps cooler, relocated windshield wipe res, and threw a custom dual saikou michi on the driver side

jwick 01-23-2016 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_jelly (Post 3395580)
I threw both oil coolers behind the intercooler, relocated the ps cooler, relocated windshield wipe res, and threw a custom dual saikou michi on the driver side

Picture?

jwick 01-23-2016 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EliteXpress (Post 3395566)
Anyone running Oil Catch Can with there BP Kit?

I did go beat on the car last night in this 40deg weather. I forgot how much faster it is below 50. :driving:

EliteXpress 01-23-2016 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3395583)
I did go beat on the car last night in this 40deg weather. I forgot how much faster it is below 50. :driving:
Yeah I was out last night imagining myself in some B00ST! :driving: :roflpuke2:

There is quite a few catch cans on the market with low cost involved.

hc_416 01-23-2016 03:11 PM
Hey guys, I have a quick question about gauges, what do you guys think about the GReddy multi gauge?

16001710
GReddy

I would have to buy the gauge then a few addons. Does anyone run these gauges? and would they fit in a side pillar?

As far the catch can, I believe I will get one as some point, but that is lower on the list ATM. I want to buy the gauges and bc by the end of sunday.

jwick 01-23-2016 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3395687)
Hey guys, I have a quick question about gauges, what do you guys think about the GReddy multi gauge?

16001710
GReddy

I would have to buy the gauge then a few addons. Does anyone run these gauges? and would they fit in a side pillar?

As far the catch can, I believe I will get one as some point, but that is lower on the list ATM. I want to buy the gauges and bc by the end of sunday.

I run that gauge. It's great but it's discontinued.

hc_416 01-23-2016 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3395695)
I run that gauge. It's great but it's discontinued.
Is there any place that still sells it?

jwick 01-23-2016 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3395721)
Is there any place that still sells it?

Not that I know of

hc_416 01-28-2016 09:04 PM
Updated OP.

TcRocket 01-29-2016 12:59 AM
Where do I find the pdf file?................................Got it, thanks theweez

Gregor12 01-29-2016 01:16 AM
BP turbo build/advice
 
I see you're looking into gauges. Can't go wrong with innovative Motorsports. Also I didn't go pillar. Here's my thread on the gauge "swap" I personally would go boost, a/f, and oil pressure. Also take a look at Podi. They make very good quality parts and they're dual electronic gauges can save some space. But if you really want to ball out you should buy the Defi multi gauge. Spot on and shows all the data at once using hard wired sensors like any other "real" gauge. No obd2 ****.

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-interior/97480-replaced-my-factory-gauges.html

Edit. Just remembered you have a g37 lol.


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TcRocket 01-29-2016 12:25 PM
Thanks for the input. Yeah i don't think i have bid enough balls to do what you did. I will prob go with the gale force pillar. I know i want a/f, boost, oil pressure and fuel pressure. Lack of fuel=lean condition and melted pistons... Anyone know of a gauge that will show both oil and fuel pressure as i am limited to two pods with what i want to do

Gregor12 01-29-2016 01:33 PM
BP turbo build/advice
 
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Originally Posted by TcRocket (Post 3400561)
Thanks for the input. Yeah i don't think i have bid enough balls to do what you did. I will prob go with the gale force pillar. I know i want a/f, boost, oil pressure and fuel pressure. Lack of fuel=lean condition and melted pistons... Anyone know of a gauge that will show both oil and fuel pressure as i am limited to two pods with what i want to do

Check out Podi for real. They're a/f uses the innovative sending unit so it's the same ****. But they have 2 in one gauges that work great. My buddy's been running them in his fully built gli for years. The sending United are also very responsive. Left my prosports in the dust when it came to accuracy lol

If you're really serious about saving space. Check this out.... It's the real deal
http://www.defi-shop.com/products/ad...zd/summary_zd/


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hc_416 01-29-2016 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregor12 (Post 3400619)
Check out Podi for real. They're a/f uses the innovative sending unit so it's the same ****. But they have 2 in one gauges that work great. My buddy's been running them in his fully built gli for years. The sending United are also very responsive. Left my prosports in the dust when it came to accuracy lol

If you're really serious about saving space. Check this out.... It's the real deal
ADVANCE ZD Summary | Defi - Exciting products by NS Japan


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I do like that unit, and it is not that much money, if it was only in a blueish color. I would like to drive it hard, and enter some shows so I would like a matching look. You can get the older style gauge for like 171 dollars on ebay with all the senors; seems like a steal to me. I am really looking for that GReddy one with three sensors. It would have boost, oil temp and oil pressure, I would then get a Invoate A/F along with a pillar pod. Thanks for all the advice guys, hopefully this weekend I can put up a few pictures before the work starts.


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