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hc_416 05-03-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3648110)
Be very careful if you spike you're looking at a new motor. Maybe pull the wastegates to make sure your diaphragms are not pinched. And it may seem like alot of work but having been through what I've been through I'd pull all the vacuum lines and reinstall them.

I actually did rerun all the line, they had it all messed up.

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3648114)
Here's the diagram of my setup.

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3648117)
How much boost are you seeing?
Also, when you tuned the BC off, did you leave the solinoid plumbed in the wastegate lines? Try completely removing the BC from the loop so you can be certain your wastegates are as isolated as they can be.

i have see about 21-24 psi... When I turned off my Profec the boost just went up and never blew off until I let off the gas and the BOV took over.

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3648123)
Yeah, if you do what Jayhova said, run a line from charge pipe to the tops of the wastegates and leave the bottom open to atmosphere. Also if you have a 3 port solenoid make sure it's plumbed correctly. My diagram is for the Greddy Profec OLED EBC. When I used port 1 it was wrong and allowed runaway boost. It would also be nice to see what you were peaking at.

I am going to try that this weekend, I wanted to do it earlier but many things came up. I have the three port and the drawings look like the way i hooked it up. I have the control unit hooked up to the big vacuum line from the manifold to the fire wall. I want to just check to make sure I put the line correct on the waste gate. I also don't see were i have a hot side line hooked up to the wg. I will have more info over the weekend! To bad no one live close they could have some beer and steaks to help me get it right!!

Jayhovah 05-03-2017 10:26 AM

I know this goes without saying, but it really should be said because of the danger... BE CAREFUL! 20+ PSI you are in very dangerous territory if you aren't built/tuned for it.

jwick 05-03-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3648620)
I know this goes without saying, but it really should be said because of the danger... BE CAREFUL! 20+ PSI you are in very dangerous territory if you aren't built/tuned for it.


:iagree:

I'd also probably get a compression test if you think you really saw boost over 20psi.

solidus 05-03-2017 03:00 PM

I hate to scare you but my motor was turned into hot glitter at 23.7psi. If yours didn't blow there's a very good chance there's some crooked parts inside. Not definite but from my personal experience I'd be wearing depends till I got compression checked. The wastegates have upper and lower ports. The upper is either on top where it says Tial or directly on the side of the top hat. The lower is the other. (Not the one marked H2O). The upper is connected to the charge pipe via Twitter connector. The lower comes from the port as I sent the diagram into a T. Try to keep the length from the T equal. I sincerely hope that you didn't bend a rod or tear up some rings. But on the bright side it's an excellent excuse for a built lower. I'd drain the oil to check for glitter and if it's there purge the exapump. ( Don't ask how I know.) If there's no glitter check compression. Also I have a Greddy and it's pure Voodoo. Set it up at the lowest boost setting and work up. Here's where mine was at 9PSI

Lo boost settings
SET= 24%
WARNING =10.5
LIMITER=5%
START=7.5
GAIN= GO SLOW AFTER ALL OTHER SETTINGS.

That should keep you safe but that was with 5lb springs and maybe lower the set boost to 20% and set the warning to 9.5psi . That's a start once you get the readings you creep up slowly. When you find exactly where you want to be you can play with gain but that requires a copilot and a long trip to Mexico in and out of boost.

solidus 05-03-2017 03:04 PM

BTW this is a simple wave off and budget approval if the better half can be convinced that it was a common spark plug issue. This has been tested and it works.

hc_416 05-03-2017 10:37 PM

I do have a built lower end from aam, its that the wastegates are not workgin right and i have to figer out why...

solidus 05-04-2017 06:10 AM

Well hell you should be good then. I say pull the wastegates, take them apart and make sure they're assembled corretly, put in the 5lb springs and then configure the lines the way I showed you. Then set up your boost controller correctly. You said you plumbed all the lines again but did you use new silicone or reuse the old? If you used the old lines did you carefully check each line for holes. I had a small hole near the passenger side wastegate that caused that wastegate to remain closed. It was tiny but I imagine with 23+ psi it expanded enough to cause a ruckus. You're past the hard stuff this is just where it get's tedius and irritating because now you just want to spool.

jwick 05-04-2017 08:24 AM

BP turbo build/advice
 
Unless you only want to run 10lbs, you'll need more than a 5lb spring in the WG. I'd put at least the half bar spring, maybe one step bigger.

hc_416 05-04-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3649020)
Well hell you should be good then. I say pull the wastegates, take them apart and make sure they're assembled corretly, put in the 5lb springs and then configure the lines the way I showed you. Then set up your boost controller correctly. You said you plumbed all the lines again but did you use new silicone or reuse the old? If you used the old lines did you carefully check each line for holes. I had a small hole near the passenger side wastegate that caused that wastegate to remain closed. It was tiny but I imagine with 23+ psi it expanded enough to cause a ruckus. You're past the hard stuff this is just where it get's tedius and irritating because now you just want to spool.

I will look again, I did not replace every hose, i think i reused two of them. I will go back and check. I will be taking off the waste gates this weekend, I have some time.

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3649108)
Unless you only want to run 10lbs, you'll need more than a 5lb spring in the WG. I'd put at least the half bar spring, maybe one step bigger.

I am wondering if I swaped the hose's wrong. That is what I am going to check first. then I will take them apart after. Hey were do i get a BOV spring?

jwick 05-04-2017 11:07 AM

No clue where to get a different BOV spring.

I also wouldn't go swapping WG springs without a retune. You want to make sure you are tuned for the boost you'll run. Also have your tuner give you a map setting for just WG pressure and then a map for each of your EBC settings (I.e. If you have a low and high boost setting, you'll need a separate map for both).

Boosted Performance 05-04-2017 11:38 PM

PM your ship to address and I'll get a BOV spring shipped over to you.

hc_416 05-12-2017 12:51 PM

THE BOOST CONTROLLER IS BROKEN!!!! I BELIEVE THAT THE SOLENOID IS BROKEN/FROZEN. I hooked up the wastes-gate with no boost controller and it worked fine and only boosted to 7 psi. So Do you guys think I should buy a new solenoid, or try a different brand? My brother said that BC is a troublesome and not worth the problems. Any ideas or suggestions? I am also just waiting for the BOV spring to get that right so next week i'm hoping to be close to the new tune and ready to rock for the summer!!!

Hotrodz 05-12-2017 01:04 PM

If you are going to be tuned with EcuTek you don't necessarily need a bc. Some are running without one. I would talk to your tuner.

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jwick 05-12-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3652371)
THE BOOST CONTROLLER IS BROKEN!!!! I BELIEVE THAT THE SOLENOID IS BROKEN/FROZEN. I hooked up the wastes-gate with no boost controller and it worked fine and only boosted to 7 psi. So Do you guys think I should buy a new solenoid, or try a different brand? My brother said that BC is a troublesome and not worth the problems. Any ideas or suggestions? I am also just waiting for the BOV spring to get that right so next week i'm hoping to be close to the new tune and ready to rock for the summer!!!


What boost controller is it?

jwick 05-12-2017 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3652384)
If you are going to be tuned with EcuTek you don't necessarily need a bc. Some are running without one. I would talk to your tuner.

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You'd still have to have some kind of solenoid even if Ecutek is controlling boost. I know Ecutek can do it but I've never seen details on how exactly it works.

Hotrodz 05-12-2017 02:02 PM

I agree! I know it has been done and I think Hojin was setup that way. I think Seb has setup a few as well.

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hc_416 05-12-2017 03:57 PM

I have a Greddy profec Oled

jwick 05-12-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3652482)
I have a Greddy profec Oled


I went with the old Profec I bought NIB off eBay. Nothing fancy but tried and true. I've never heard anything bad about a Profec. You sure the solenoid is hooked up properly?

solidus 05-13-2017 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3652542)
I went with the old Profec I bought NIB off eBay. Nothing fancy but tried and true. I've never heard anything bad about a Profec. You sure the solenoid is hooked up properly?

I have the same one he does, pure voodoo to set up.

jwick 05-13-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3652741)
I have the same one he does, pure voodoo to set up.


Not mine. Other than being in bars, it's just High/Low/Off

solidus 05-13-2017 03:03 PM

Yours should be. The OLED version of the Profec is only specific with warning and start boost. The boost , set and gain functions are all percentages. For example 9psi is 24% with a 7lb spring. And all that isn't even bring up the scramble function. But once low boost is set it's easy to make adjustments for high boost by starting with the low settings and working up. The pain in the butt is setting gain to prevent drop-off.

jwick 05-13-2017 05:49 PM

That's why I pay my tuner. I just hooked it up. :driving:

jwick 05-13-2017 06:50 PM

As I recall during him setting it up all the settings were percentage of WG spring up to 100%

hc_416 05-16-2017 09:51 AM

Thanks sasa I just got the BOV spring. I will be installing it this weekend. It is also looking like 80-90 degrees this weekend! Time to take her out for a test drive!.

jwick 05-16-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3653726)
Thanks sasa I just got the BOV spring. I will be installing it this weekend. It is also looking like 80-90 degrees this weekend! Time to take her out for a test drive!.


You must be from up north. Us southern guys put the cars away for summer when the weather gets above 90ish.

hc_416 05-16-2017 10:01 PM

yes sir but my cars see snow too!! only when its too cold for the oil does she go in.

solidus 05-17-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3652852)
As I recall during him setting it up all the settings were percentage of WG spring up to 100%

Warning and Start boost are PSI specific. Limiter, Set boost and Gain settings are all percentage. My tuner looked at the OLED Profec like it was a piece of Alien Technology.

hc_416 05-17-2017 10:09 AM

The belief is the slnoid is bad on the bc; going to switch to a different unit at some point. I am just gonna enjoy the car on the 16 psi spring for now. Now I just have to wait for my intake mani and will slap it on. After that a tune for aam!!

solidus 05-17-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3654265)
The belief is the slnoid is bad on the bc; going to switch to a different unit at some point. I am just gonna enjoy the car on the 16 psi spring for now. Now I just have to wait for my intake mani and will slap it on. After that a tune for aam!!

They told me my solenoid was probably bad too because it kept spiking on the dyno but it turned out that it was the hole in the vaccum line for the upper passenger side wastegate. Even after it took a poop the hole was still tiny but still enough that it prevented the wastegate on that side from doing it's job.

jwick 05-17-2017 12:38 PM

Pressure will always follow the path of least resistance. Hole open to atmosphere is going to be that path.

hc_416 05-17-2017 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus (Post 3654290)
They told me my solenoid was probably bad too because it kept spiking on the dyno but it turned out that it was the hole in the vaccum line for the upper passenger side wastegate. Even after it took a poop the hole was still tiny but still enough that it prevented the wastegate on that side from doing it's job.

That is what i think it is, I went right to the waste-gate spring and it work's fine, I still need to get it tested out to see if it is or not.

hc_416 05-17-2017 10:46 PM

So on the aam mani they have some free vacuum ports. What do you guys think about hooking up the bov to it? It is right behind the throttle body. I do know it has to be shorter than 48 inch it will close on the length but should make it.

solidus 05-18-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3654470)
That is what i think it is, I went right to the waste-gate spring and it work's fine, I still need to get it tested out to see if it is or not.

If you do , order some heat sleeve for all the lines that run near hot areas.

hc_416 05-18-2017 11:17 PM

so it look like I will be getting my Intake mani in the A.M.! Sasha also said that I could use the port behind the throttle body so no drilling either!!

hc_416 05-20-2017 09:40 PM

aam intake came in one day!! well I put it on but my afr's are out of wack. So I have to wait for my re-tune and go from there. Getting close!!

hc_416 05-24-2017 11:37 AM

Little update, I just got the logs done for my car. I have to now send them to aam for cleaning up. After looking at the logs I see I am out of injector.... So next year or if a good deal falls in my lap I will need to get bigger injectors. I would really like the 1050x; Are there any suggestions on what else I might want to look at?

jwick 05-24-2017 12:10 PM

Go with injector dynamics

hc_416 05-24-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3656538)
Go with injector dynamics

That is what my brother said too, I was looking at the 1050x, I was thinking I might need a bigger pump so to. Are there any alternatives to the 1050x that I might want to look at?

jwick 05-24-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hc_416 (Post 3656560)
That is what my brother said too, I was looking at the 1050x, I was thinking I might need a bigger pump so to. Are there any alternatives to the 1050x that I might want to look at?


Do yourself a favor and call CJM and talk to Charles(Phunk on this forum). He will help you with injector selection and can hook you up with pump and any fueling needs you have.

hc_416 05-25-2017 09:19 PM

AAM sent me over the first map, got to get back the road this weekend and get some more pulls!!


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