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JWillis72 11-24-2015 06:05 PM

I found an old post Sam from you know where about SD tuning our cars that doesn't sound good. Does anyone know a 370Z that is actually SD tuned? I was at the DR office so when I found it so I took a pic.

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Optimiser 11-24-2015 06:45 PM

This is from an online mag called "Super Street Network" in April 2012 about the 370Z Stillen Supercharger:

Stillen VQ37 Supercharger System - Import Tuner Magazine

"The air inlet was engineered using a Y-pipe–designed cast-aluminum intake tube that relocates the MAF sensors, retaining a “draw through” configuration. The MAF sensors are located in front of the forced-induction device to get an accurate reading of air volume. Stillen chose this route simply because this is what Nissan recommends, and over the years, have learned that the MAF sensor that Nissan uses is not designed to be “blown through”, or post forced induction. Two examples would be the Nissan GT-R and the 300ZX in which both cars use a draw-through MAF sensor setup."

What do you guys think about "Nissan recommends draw-through"?
It contradicts having MAF sensors on the "forced" side.
:driving:

JWillis72 11-24-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3354554)
This is from an online mag called "Super Street Network" in April 2012 about the 370Z Stillen Supercharger:

Stillen VQ37 Supercharger System - Import Tuner Magazine

"The air inlet was engineered using a Y-pipe–designed cast-aluminum intake tube that relocates the MAF sensors, retaining a “draw through” configuration. The MAF sensors are located in front of the forced-induction device to get an accurate reading of air volume. Stillen chose this route simply because this is what Nissan recommends, and over the years, have learned that the MAF sensor that Nissan uses is not designed to be “blown through”, or post forced induction. Two examples would be the Nissan GT-R and the 300ZX in which both cars use a draw-through MAF sensor setup."

What do you guys think about "Nissan recommends draw-through"?
It contradicts having MAF sensors on the "forced" side.
:driving:

It cant be that way because the car doesn't get true AITs that way.

lj909 11-24-2015 07:11 PM

What if you use two sets of MAF's and splice the wires. One set for draw through air, one set in the hot side for AIT?

RadioFlyer 11-24-2015 07:25 PM

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I don't think you can turn off the MAFs because you still need them for AITs.


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Not true - I have a bunch of codes turned off and still read IAT off my MAF.

I'm away for the holidays, but when I get back I'll PM you a list of codes I shut off to get my car to run smoothly.

JWillis72 11-24-2015 07:26 PM

I talked to the owner of the shop that made the pipes and it's going back to him on Monday to be redone. Unfortunately this probably means its going to be a lot longer wait until I get the car back.

Z&I 11-24-2015 07:36 PM

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Oh lord how do you keep up with 4 of them?!?


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lol ... most of the time it's not too bad :-)

Food time is always an interesting experience - Max and Gia race to see who can gulp down their supper the fastest, while Fritz and Lily nibble one piece at a time.

The hardest part though, is getting them in and out of the car [they ride in the G37]
Once in the car, they have developed an effective technique [they work in pairs] for slipping their harnesses and then it becomes a circus.

Lily also likes to stand on the center console and look out the windshield as she tap dances on the radio/nav/emergency flasher buttons.

So I never really know where I'm going, nor what music I'm about to listen to.
It's always a surprise.
And, I'm constantly making new friends as cars go around me flashing their lights and waving their finger[s] at me [as a friendly gesture of course] just to let me know that my flashers are working AOK.
It's good to know that there are concerned and helpful drivers out there on the roads.

Gia once fell asleep on my left leg on a late night/early morning trip up to Maine a few weeks ago.
She was straddling my thigh and her legs were just'a'dangling there and a' twitchin' away as she dreamt.

So peaceable ... A Kodak moment :-)

That is, until she started chasing critters in her sleep and her twitching paw hit the seat adjustment switch - moving the back of the seat forward.
I soon found my nose buried into the steering wheel trying to pull over to the side of the road with one eye straining to look up and over the dashboard .... I may have spotted a UFO during the seat position transition, but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
aaarrrrggghhh.

Wouldn't have it any other way though ... :eek:

JWillis72 11-24-2015 07:49 PM

I love it man, my dogs are like kids to me.


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JWillis72 11-24-2015 08:12 PM

This is my other crazy dog and behind him is our litter box trained rabbit.


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StillenZ84 11-24-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3354534)
I found an old post Sam from you know where about SD tuning our cars that doesn't sound good. Does anyone know a 370Z that is actually SD tuned? I was at the DR office so when I found it so I took a pic.

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I am straight up Speed density tuned. If you can somehow get ahold of him, John Visconti is the one who did my tuning. Back when we were all talking about this last month on this thread, I told him that a lot of people were trying to use a 3bar map sensor and he insisted it could only be done with a 4bar (no idea why). So that is what I am running. My MAFs play 0 role in how my car is tuned per John. Haven't heard form him in a couple weeks with more questions I have had but he would know what and how SD works on our cars.

JWillis72 11-24-2015 08:29 PM

Interesting, I will have the shop call him tomorrow! Thank you!

StillenZ84 11-24-2015 08:43 PM

No problem. Yeah hopefully he can help out. I think when you get SD working right, you are golden.

Z&I 11-24-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3354611)
This is my other crazy dog and behind him is our litter box trained rabbit.


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Man o' Man ... ! ... Looks like he could turn your eyeballs inside out with one good lick !!!

And the Kitty Litter Bunny ??? WoW !!!

JWillis72 ... 'the Wabbit Whisperer' ...:happydance:...

BOLIO 671 11-25-2015 06:25 AM

If u need a 4bar u should go with this one from Omni

OMNI 4BAR Map Sensor – Visconti Tuning

When I was speaking to Seb a few weeks back about remote tuning with EcuTek he highly recommended that I go with a GM3BAR Map sensor or switching to the Omni which is a direct bolt on replacement.

ANMVQ 11-25-2015 06:37 AM

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Man o' Man ... ! ... Looks like he could turn your eyeballs inside out with one good lick !!!

And the Kitty Litter Bunny ??? WoW !!!

JWillis72 ... 'the Wabbit Whisperer' ...:happydance:...

Thought this was a tuning thread, LOL


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