Nissan 370Z Forum  

Carbon Fiber front fascia?

I went to the garage to clean off some bugs today and found yet another (relatively) deep knick down by the fangs (about 1mm x 1mm x 8mm). It's deep

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Exterior & Interior


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-24-2009, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 266
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default Carbon Fiber front fascia?

I went to the garage to clean off some bugs today and found yet another (relatively) deep knick down by the fangs (about 1mm x 1mm x 8mm). It's deep enough that a clearbra would not have prevented it, as with another cut I found about a month ago.

Anyhow, has any manufacturer (in the past with Z's) put out a carbon fiber front fascia? I don't mean as an overlay, I mean a replacement.

I figure it'd be hard enough and resistant enough to not dent/ding/etc from road debris. The weight savings might be something, don't care about that...lol.

Personal preference would be that it would get painted to match the car...so it's a matter of eventually wanting to replace it when it looks bad enough and either spending the $200 or so to get a new plastic fascia (and whatever to have it painted), or, get a CF fascia at $xyz, then have it painted to match and likely not have to worry about dings/chips/cuts/etc.
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

you mean the whole bumper cover.... that's gonna be money


there's already a fiberglass bumper cover out..... it's pretty darn strong... stronger than OEM.... Zele is the way to go
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 07:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 266
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoodname View Post
you mean the whole bumper cover.... that's gonna be money


there's already a fiberglass bumper cover out..... it's pretty darn strong... stronger than OEM.... Zele is the way to go
Like how much (for CF) - ballpark?

I'll check into Zele.
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 07:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

the Zele one will be around 1500 i think... plus shipping

CF would probably be the same if made here in North America
but no one has done it yet


if the CF gets a knick, thats so not fixable... i would go with FB.. which is fixable
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 266
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoodname View Post
the Zele one will be around 1500 i think... plus shipping

CF would probably be the same if made here in North America
but no one has done it yet


if the CF gets a knick, thats so not fixable... i would go with FB.. which is fixable
Thanks - good point about CF. I imagine that CF's epoxy base would be harder than the plastic used for the OEM fascia, correct? At least the damage would be minimal.

Also, it looks like Zele would be part of a body kit, which isn't something I'm entirely after. I guess I'll just deal until something comes out (or go OEM again)

One other thing - what's the exhaust on Zele's site? If I did something like get the body kit, that exhaust would probably be what'll fit best with the rear fascia...at least, as I understand it, they come pre-cut, right?
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:14 PM   #6 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

carbon fiber is not flexible... so yes it is harder
fiberglass is hard also, but fixable....
those Japanese kits are pretty darn tough though.... the OEM bumper would break before a FB would.

the Zele front bumper is a variation of OEM.... so it will match nicely if you buy the front bumper only....
the front bumper costs 1200 plus shipping

the rear bumper is 1100
the side skirts are 975

now get ready for it.... are you ready to see the price of the exhaust


it's a full titanium exhaust at 5800
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 266
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoodname View Post
carbon fiber is not flexible... so yes it is harder
fiberglass is hard also, but fixable....
those Japanese kits are pretty darn tough though.... the OEM bumper would break before a FB would.

the Zele front bumper is a variation of OEM.... so it will match nicely if you buy the front bumper only....
the front bumper costs 1200 plus shipping

the rear bumper is 1100
the side skirts are 975

now get ready for it.... are you ready to see the price of the exhaust


it's a full titanium exhaust at 5800
LULZ!

I guess there's not a lot that can be done with the rear bumper with their body kit (I'm not familiar with body kits in general, so please forgive the ignorance!)
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

no problem

i would put the front bumper and keep the rest stock


and forget that exhaust.............lol


btw...those are real prices i posted from 370ztune
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 08:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NYBladeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 2,158
Drives: Lotus Exige S
Rep Power: 19
NYBladeZ has a spectacular aura aboutNYBladeZ has a spectacular aura about
Default

I don't think you would be able to paint over a CF front bumper. The CF most of us refer to is wet carbon so its already been clearcoated meaning you won't be able to apply paint afterwards. Correct me if I'm wrong but only dry carbon would be able to get painted on after, and you are going to pay an arm and a leg for any dry carbon pieces, heck I don't think they even have any out right now. For wet carbon, I know atleast of one other member completely CFing their car. The name is beyond me right now but I believe he's working with Seibon. I'm currently doing the same thing with a local wholesale company on creating a full wet carbon kit. I don't think I'll see much in weight savings but I love the look.
__________________
2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold
2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling
NYBladeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2009, 09:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

cf fenders would offer decent weight saving
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 10:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NYBladeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 2,158
Drives: Lotus Exige S
Rep Power: 19
NYBladeZ has a spectacular aura aboutNYBladeZ has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoodname View Post
cf fenders would offer decent weight saving
I hope so, I'm patiently waiting to see how much weight it I actually shave off. Though honestly I did it for the unique look than any major weight reductions. Anyone know where I can get an overlay for the rear quarter panel in CF?
__________________
2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold
2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling
NYBladeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 10:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

mmmm... i dont think you can....lol

think of it like this... the fenders are made from steel
(only hatch, door skin and hood are aluminum)

CF is lighter than aluminum... so there's definitely a savings

Last edited by nogoodname; 09-25-2009 at 12:02 PM.
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 11:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Modshack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Greenville NC
Posts: 2,883
Drives: 370Z Sport
Rep Power: 976
Modshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYBladeZ View Post
I don't think you would be able to paint over a CF front bumper. The CF most of us refer to is wet carbon so its already been clearcoated meaning you won't be able to apply paint afterwards. .
Sure you can. CF is painted over all the time. The clear-coat is just paint after all. You'll still have paint on top and that's what typically chips though, so there is nothing really gained from doing this to reduce road dings......I fact, it may cause more issues as the underlying CF (or FG) is pretty unyielding as opposed to the flexibility of the stock bumper material..
__________________

Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S
Oil Cooler DIY: Here!
Modshack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 11:45 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Modshack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Greenville NC
Posts: 2,883
Drives: 370Z Sport
Rep Power: 976
Modshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nogoodname View Post
think of it like this... the fenders are made from steel
(only hatch, roof and hood are aluminum)

Actually the Hood, Doors and hatch are aluminum......

Roof is steel....My Auto-X numbers stuck real good up there..
__________________

Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S
Oil Cooler DIY: Here!
Modshack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2009, 12:02 PM   #15 (permalink)
Lifetime Premium
 
nogoodname's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Montreal
Posts: 22,357
Drives: E46 M3
Rep Power: 1764
nogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond reputenogoodname has a reputation beyond repute
Default

my bad.... i meant that...lol

door skin is aluminum
nogoodname is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
front fascia cost? Snakes709 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 7 09-22-2009 07:15 AM
Front license plate carbon fiber backing group buy! SpawnAeroJohn Nissan 370Z General Discussions 14 07-06-2009 09:04 PM
looking for 370z for carbon fiber project and free carbon fiber products 370z_hot Exterior & Interior 23 05-16-2009 09:32 PM
Sneak Peak, Carbon Fiber Front Lip, From The 370ZSOURCE!!!! Michael@TheZStore Exterior & Interior 31 04-19-2009 12:51 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2