Service Engine code P2097

quickboat · 09-13-2014, 11:43 AM

I got a couple of codes today on the way to work. P2097 (Post Catalyst fuel trim system too rich bank 1)and a P117A?? I am running K&N filters with the silicone HPS's tube inserts. The car has only 3200 miles. But ever since I put the tubes on and reconnected the battery my milage has dropped 2-3 MPG.??? Has anone had this issue? Do I have to take the HPS's off before hitting up the stealership?

quickboat · 09-13-2014, 02:12 PM

I have read in a Nissan forum that a O2 sensor has gone bad. Is this a fluke or does it have to do with my tiny (K&N/HPS) mod?

SouthArk370Z · 09-13-2014, 09:11 PM

I'd get an OBD/CAN reader and see what the O2 sensors are doing. If anything doesn't look quite right, put the stock parts back on and see if that makes things any better. If it's still throwing errors with stock parts, take it to a dealer (you've already got the stock parts back on, so that's no longer an issue).

Edit: And check to make sure you didn't knock any wires or hoses loose when you made the mods.

quickboat · 09-14-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I'd get an OBD/CAN reader and see what the O2 sensors are doing. If anything doesn't look quite right, put the stock parts back on and see if that makes things any better. If it's still throwing errors with stock parts, take it to a dealer (you've already got the stock parts back on, so that's no longer an issue).

Edit: And check to make sure you didn't knock any wires or hoses loose when you made the mods.

I have the reader. What exactly am I looking for? Is there a voltage chart or something?

I'm sure hundreds of people have used the K&N filters with the HPS silicone tubes without issue. Anyone had this experience?

The HPS instructions say to disconnect battery when installing. So I did and after reconnection it ran fine for a couple of weeks but I just noticed a drop in mileage.

quickboat · 09-14-2014, 04:14 PM

Can anone tell me if this data looks right?
Data2.txt

SouthArk370Z · 09-14-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quickboat

Can anone tell me if this data looks right?
Attachment 94271

The normal/expected values are in the FSM. Or someone who knows more about this than I do will probably chime in soon.

quickboat · 09-15-2014, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

The normal/expected values are in the FSM. Or someone who knows more about this than I do will probably chime in soon.

Not having much luck in the chiming dept...

Mbreese · 09-15-2014, 11:49 PM

Just give it a lil time ...... Wish I could tell you on the numbers

Jordo! · 09-16-2014, 08:13 PM

P117A is Engine Oil Over Temperature (Forced Limited Power) -- that's an unusal one...

P2097 looks to be associated with a bad secondary (post cat) O2.

Do you have factory cats?

The weird array of errors makes me think its an electrical problem... failing that, there's a couple of possibilities, at least in regard to the rich system code.

1. You have a massive vacuum leak and the ECU is adding tons of fuel to try and compensate. Check all hose connections.

2. Your MAF sensors, if they were removed got dirty or are somehow improperly installed. If they were never taken off and all connectors were left alone, skip this.

3. Something entirely coincidental happened and your primary and or secondary O2 sensors on Bank 1 failed.

None of those explain the oil temp code -- were you even seeing temps on the gauge that were high?

quickboat · 09-18-2014, 05:57 AM

Thanks for the response Jordo.
I am running stock air boxes and the silicone tube inserts. I checked the fittings and they are tight at the air box and the TB. The small tubes that go to the valve covers look good too. The engine has never been run hard enough to get hot let alone real hot, so that code must be bogus. I am running K&N filters, could it be oil on the MAF sensors? If so how can I clean them?

PS Did you look at my data logs? I cleared the codes and am driving now without codes yet.

Jordo! · 09-18-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by quickboat

Thanks for the response Jordo.
I am running stock air boxes and the silicone tube inserts. I checked the fittings and they are tight at the air box and the TB. The small tubes that go to the valve covers look good too. The engine has never been run hard enough to get hot let alone real hot, so that code must be bogus. I am running K&N filters, could it be oil on the MAF sensors? If so how can I clean them?

PS Did you look at my data logs? I cleared the codes and am driving now without codes yet.

A bogus code points to an electrical problem tho... you shouldn't just get random codes like that.

Can you export the datafile to excel or put them into tables?

quickboat · 09-18-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

A bogus code points to an electrical problem tho... you shouldn't just get random codes like that.

Can you export the datafile to excel or put them into tables?

The data file came out as a txt file. It is up a coupe of posts, did you see it? The code came back after about 80miles. I called the Stealership, i guess I have to get the stock tubes back on. CRAP!

1slow370 · 09-18-2014, 05:01 PM

yeah unfortunatley those are odd codes in more ways than one niether applies to the 370z at least not according to the 09 manual engine oil over temp is p1217, you're other code doesn't apply to our cars either, going to have to have consult3 hooked up it is most likely a code translation error.

On other 2014 models the the p117a is cylinder a/f imbalance and p2097 is rear o2 sensor problems back to stock and to the dealer you go.

Jordo! · 09-18-2014, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by quickboat

The data file came out as a txt file. It is up a coupe of posts, did you see it? The code came back after about 80miles. I called the Stealership, i guess I have to get the stock tubes back on. CRAP!

It's hard to follow displayed as text instead of in a table, but it looks like you are getting pretty divergent readings from the MAF sensors.

I'm not sure about the different sets of fuel trim data - the first grouping look nominal but the ones listed later are high for one bank

It's possible the MAF sensors need to be cleaned -- pick up some CRC MAF cleaner spray and just spray them down.

That still doesn't explain the weird DTC's... I think after trying to clean the MAF, if no change, going to the dealership is your best option.

I can tell you that the tubes and filters are NOT radically changing things enough to cause sensor problems.

Over oiling could be an issue on the MAF, but if you spray it clean and nothing changes, there's something else going on.

IAmTheStig · 09-19-2014, 02:16 PM

Yay, first post here for me!

Just had a similar issue on my '14 Base Sport Coupe. Took it to the dealer and they said that there was an O2 sensor part number change around the time when my car was built (early Jan, 2014) and my car had three correct O2 sensors installed and one wrong sensor installed from the factory. (Old part number...) My car tripped the P2099 code which is the same as yours but the other bank. I have 2600 miles on it. Bone stock.

Wonder if you have the same problem I do? The new part is backordered at the moment.

Good luck.

09-13-2014, 11:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
quickboat Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: ohio Posts: 65 Drives: '14 370Z TSN M6 Rep Power: 10	Service Engine code P2097 I got a couple of codes today on the way to work. P2097 (Post Catalyst fuel trim system too rich bank 1)and a P117A?? I am running K&N filters with the silicone HPS's tube inserts. The car has only 3200 miles. But ever since I put the tubes on and reconnected the battery my milage has dropped 2-3 MPG.??? Has anone had this issue? Do I have to take the HPS's off before hitting up the stealership? __________________ 2014 370Z Magnetic Black, M6,Touring, Sport, Nav Last edited by quickboat; 09-13-2014 at 06:26 PM.

09-13-2014, 02:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
quickboat Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: ohio Posts: 65 Drives: '14 370Z TSN M6 Rep Power: 10	I have read in a Nissan forum that a O2 sensor has gone bad. Is this a fluke or does it have to do with my tiny (K&N/HPS) mod? __________________ 2014 370Z Magnetic Black, M6,Touring, Sport, Nav

09-13-2014, 09:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324197	I'd get an OBD/CAN reader and see what the O2 sensors are doing. If anything doesn't look quite right, put the stock parts back on and see if that makes things any better. If it's still throwing errors with stock parts, take it to a dealer (you've already got the stock parts back on, so that's no longer an issue). Edit: And check to make sure you didn't knock any wires or hoses loose when you made the mods. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

09-14-2014, 04:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
quickboat Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: ohio Posts: 65 Drives: '14 370Z TSN M6 Rep Power: 10	Can anyone read this? Can anone tell me if this data looks right? Data2.txt __________________ 2014 370Z Magnetic Black, M6,Touring, Sport, Nav

09-15-2014, 11:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mbreese Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Cartersville,Ga Posts: 331 Drives: Metalic-Gray,09 370Z Rep Power: 31	Just give it a lil time ...... Wish I could tell you on the numbers quickboat likes this.

09-16-2014, 08:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	P117A is Engine Oil Over Temperature (Forced Limited Power) -- that's an unusal one... P2097 looks to be associated with a bad secondary (post cat) O2. Do you have factory cats? The weird array of errors makes me think its an electrical problem... failing that, there's a couple of possibilities, at least in regard to the rich system code. 1. You have a massive vacuum leak and the ECU is adding tons of fuel to try and compensate. Check all hose connections. 2. Your MAF sensors, if they were removed got dirty or are somehow improperly installed. If they were never taken off and all connectors were left alone, skip this. 3. Something entirely coincidental happened and your primary and or secondary O2 sensors on Bank 1 failed. None of those explain the oil temp code -- were you even seeing temps on the gauge that were high? quickboat likes this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

09-18-2014, 05:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
quickboat Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: ohio Posts: 65 Drives: '14 370Z TSN M6 Rep Power: 10	Thanks for the response Jordo. I am running stock air boxes and the silicone tube inserts. I checked the fittings and they are tight at the air box and the TB. The small tubes that go to the valve covers look good too. The engine has never been run hard enough to get hot let alone real hot, so that code must be bogus. I am running K&N filters, could it be oil on the MAF sensors? If so how can I clean them? PS Did you look at my data logs? I cleared the codes and am driving now without codes yet. __________________ 2014 370Z Magnetic Black, M6,Touring, Sport, Nav Last edited by quickboat; 09-18-2014 at 06:00 AM.

09-18-2014, 05:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7250	yeah unfortunatley those are odd codes in more ways than one niether applies to the 370z at least not according to the 09 manual engine oil over temp is p1217, you're other code doesn't apply to our cars either, going to have to have consult3 hooked up it is most likely a code translation error. On other 2014 models the the p117a is cylinder a/f imbalance and p2097 is rear o2 sensor problems back to stock and to the dealer you go. Jordo! and quickboat like this. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 09-18-2014 at 06:09 PM.

09-19-2014, 02:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
IAmTheStig Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 50 Drives: 2014 370z Coupe Rep Power: 11	O2 Sensor Issue I Think... Yay, first post here for me! Just had a similar issue on my '14 Base Sport Coupe. Took it to the dealer and they said that there was an O2 sensor part number change around the time when my car was built (early Jan, 2014) and my car had three correct O2 sensors installed and one wrong sensor installed from the factory. (Old part number...) My car tripped the P2099 code which is the same as yours but the other bank. I have 2600 miles on it. Bone stock. Wonder if you have the same problem I do? The new part is backordered at the moment. Good luck. quickboat likes this.

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