Service Engine Soon: Code P0171

hansoac · 05-17-2011, 07:08 PM

I'm back AGAIN!! I had a post about how the car wants stall when it starts after it sits overnight. Well I took it to Nissan and "everything checked out OK". Well 2 days later my check engine light came on and I had a code reader hooked up..the Code being P0171 Definition Fuel system lean bank 1 and bank 2
Probable cause: 1.Low Fuel pressure 2. Blocked Injectors 3. Large Vacuum Leak 4. MAF sensor fault
I looked up this error code before posting this and most people are saying it is a loose/not fully tight gas cap. I checked that over and over.
ANOTHER thing I noticed is that if I get on the gas aggressively, the car will studder at about 4 .5 RPM's. it is frustrating!! any ideas??

I also tried injector cleaner and making sure my air filters were seated ok.

chops · 05-17-2011, 07:24 PM

any mods?

hansoac · 05-17-2011, 07:30 PM

just the GT HAUS tail piece (cbe). Other than that nothing. Also, I put some injector cleaner in the gas to see if it was maybe some clogged injectors, no dice.

USMCASA · 05-17-2011, 07:30 PM

bad gas?

hansoac · 05-17-2011, 07:36 PM

Well, I usually only put Shell's Ultra 93 in. I did notice it was pumping out very slow..maybe the last bit they had left. Not sure if that would have any effect.

kenchan · 05-17-2011, 07:37 PM

Yah could be bad gas. Fill up using premium and see if it helps.

ChrisSlicks · 05-17-2011, 07:39 PM

If it is not bad gas then it is likely a bad fuel pump. I've also had this code (on a different car) from a bad O2 sensor, but given that it is reporting it on both banks that doesn't seem to be the problem here. If you have any warranty left I would take it in and let them test the fuel pressure.

chops · 05-17-2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansoac

just the GT HAUS tail piece (cbe). Other than that nothing. Also, I put some injector cleaner in the gas to see if it was maybe some clogged injectors, no dice.

darn. i got that when i installed my HFC's..but once i added defoulers it was gone. likely some bad gas. try to siphon it out if you can (you can buy a pump relatively cheaply) and refill it with some good gas

USMCASA · 05-17-2011, 07:52 PM

any gas station can have water contaminated gas, put a fuel treatment in it and run it all through almost to the point of running out, refill (no additive this time) and see if that helped.

hansoac · 05-17-2011, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCASA

any gas station can have water contaminated gas, put a fuel treatment in it and run it all through almost to the point of running out, refill (no additive this time) and see if that helped.

I will have to try this..any fuel treatment that you recommend? Is it ok to put it in with the Injector cleaner?

ChrisSlicks · 05-17-2011, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansoac

I will have to try this..any fuel treatment that you recommend? Is it ok to put it in with the Injector cleaner?

The injector cleaners are typically just a solvent like Toluene or Acetone. If you suspect water in the fuel system you can add a fuel stabilizer to get the water to mix with the fuel.

USMCASA · 05-17-2011, 08:54 PM

^ or zmax, burn it out

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-17-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansoac

Well, I usually only put Shell's Ultra 93 in. I did notice it was pumping out very slow..maybe the last bit they had left. Not sure if that woul and never d have any effect.

Funny u say that. I filled up with v power right after my oil change (castrol edge). The car. Felt sluggish as hell. Went back to quik trip gas and the car is ridiculously fast again. I only use vpower in my altima 3.5. And it does great. Not so with my Z.

If u live in dfw and never tried quik trip gas. Take the pepsi challenge. It will save you money too.

chops · 05-17-2011, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Funny u say that. I filled up with v power right after my oil change (castrol edge). The car. Felt sluggish as hell. Went back to quik trip gas and the car is ridiculously fast again. I only use vpower in my altima 3.5. And it does great. Not so with my Z.

If u live in dfw and never tried quik trip gas. Take the pepsi challenge. It will save you money too.

quik trip's and alot of those independent gas stations simply buy gas from whoever is cheaper at the time of ordering. it could very well be shell, chevron, or 76. how do i know? i have an acquaintance that runs a quik trip out here and he usually buys 76, but has told me hes gotten chevron, and shell many times. its a toss up really

hansoac · 05-18-2011, 06:21 AM

Interesting..my grandfather was a mechanic for 35 years and told me he will only use Shell, so I kinda picked it up from him. But, last night I went out and reseated my air filters nice and tight..the CEL went away..i drove the car about 2 miles and it felt as if it was starting to get better...does it take a bit for the ECU to re-learn (if it even has to from something like that) or was there air in the engine somewhere causing the misfire/jumping of the car/engine?

05-17-2011, 07:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
hansoac Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toledo Posts: 497 Drives: 09 370z Sport CY Rep Power: 14	Service Engine Soon: Code P0171 I'm back AGAIN!! I had a post about how the car wants stall when it starts after it sits overnight. Well I took it to Nissan and "everything checked out OK". Well 2 days later my check engine light came on and I had a code reader hooked up..the Code being P0171 Definition Fuel system lean bank 1 and bank 2 Probable cause: 1.Low Fuel pressure 2. Blocked Injectors 3. Large Vacuum Leak 4. MAF sensor fault I looked up this error code before posting this and most people are saying it is a loose/not fully tight gas cap. I checked that over and over. ANOTHER thing I noticed is that if I get on the gas aggressively, the car will studder at about 4 .5 RPM's. it is frustrating!! any ideas?? I also tried injector cleaner and making sure my air filters were seated ok. Last edited by hansoac; 05-17-2011 at 07:34 PM. Reason: update

05-17-2011, 07:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	If it is not bad gas then it is likely a bad fuel pump. I've also had this code (on a different car) from a bad O2 sensor, but given that it is reporting it on both banks that doesn't seem to be the problem here. If you have any warranty left I would take it in and let them test the fuel pressure. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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05-17-2011, 07:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
chops A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: NA Posts: 1,732 Drives: NA Rep Power: 21	any mods?

05-17-2011, 07:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
hansoac Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toledo Posts: 497 Drives: 09 370z Sport CY Rep Power: 14	just the GT HAUS tail piece (cbe). Other than that nothing. Also, I put some injector cleaner in the gas to see if it was maybe some clogged injectors, no dice.

05-17-2011, 07:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 17	bad gas?

05-17-2011, 07:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
hansoac Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toledo Posts: 497 Drives: 09 370z Sport CY Rep Power: 14	Well, I usually only put Shell's Ultra 93 in. I did notice it was pumping out very slow..maybe the last bit they had left. Not sure if that would have any effect.

05-17-2011, 07:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Yah could be bad gas. Fill up using premium and see if it helps.

05-17-2011, 07:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 17	any gas station can have water contaminated gas, put a fuel treatment in it and run it all through almost to the point of running out, refill (no additive this time) and see if that helped.

05-17-2011, 08:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
USMCASA A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,152 Drives: 09 370z CY M6 Rep Power: 17	^ or zmax, burn it out

05-18-2011, 06:21 AM	#15 (permalink)
hansoac Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toledo Posts: 497 Drives: 09 370z Sport CY Rep Power: 14	Interesting..my grandfather was a mechanic for 35 years and told me he will only use Shell, so I kinda picked it up from him. But, last night I went out and reseated my air filters nice and tight..the CEL went away..i drove the car about 2 miles and it felt as if it was starting to get better...does it take a bit for the ECU to re-learn (if it even has to from something like that) or was there air in the engine somewhere causing the misfire/jumping of the car/engine?