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chii370 · 06-23-2014, 09:41 PM

wow, havent had a huge oil issue yet. it leaks a little, which is 100% more than it should...... but nowhere near 3 quarts. more like a half quart in 10k miles "i run full synth longer" as anyone knows you only really need to change the filter on a well treated well built engine. If you think otherwise, by all means please keep forking over your dollars to the oil fatcats.

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-24-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz

My concern is this (understand that I am no mechanic) If the engine is using enough oil to be considered "out of spec" to Nissan, and I keep it in the car, what are the long term issues, if any, that I may encounter. I mean there is a reason that its considered an "unacceptable" amount of use..

The oil consumption isn't a huge problem by itself but it is a symptom of other problems, all very bad, and reason to say the engine is unacceptable as is.
http://www.amsoil.com/techservicesbu...onsumption.pdf
For a new unabused engine it usually means the engine was improperly assembled or assembled with defective parts. And who wants to live with that.

JARblue · 06-24-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

as anyone knows you only really need to change the filter on a well treated well built engine.

You are an idiot

You obviously have never seen engine oil after its been run through an engine for 5K miles. It resembles nothing close to clean

FPenvy · 06-24-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

wow, havent had a huge oil issue yet. it leaks a little, which is 100% more than it should...... but nowhere near 3 quarts. more like a half quart in 10k miles "i run full synth longer" as anyone knows you only really need to change the filter on a well treated well built engine. If you think otherwise, by all means please keep forking over your dollars to the oil fatcats.

so much fail with this dude....

jwick · 06-24-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

so much fail with this dude....

Hopefully people really needing help will realize there are only like 10-12 people on this forum that actually know what they are talking about. The rest are just giving their unqualified opinions.

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-24-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

wow, havent had a huge oil issue yet. it leaks a little, which is 100% more than it should...... but nowhere near 3 quarts. more like a half quart in 10k miles "i run full synth longer" as anyone knows you only really need to change the filter on a well treated well built engine. If you think otherwise, by all means please keep forking over your dollars to the oil fatcats.

If I didn't change my oil every 3k but instead every 10k I would have 24 month oil change intervals. Not a good thing. The oil from nissan had been in the car for about 9 months 3k miles when I first changed it and it was starting to break down.

chii370 · 06-24-2014, 10:18 AM

Again. Difference between conventional, half and full synthetic. Its all good, u dont have to believe me, do the ******* research yourself and stop being a consumer toolbag. I dont have to prove to u im right, but if you say so u should prove that im wrong. I gave a set of parameters. In a well maintained, well treated, well designed car with PROPER full synthetic oil there is absolutely no reason to change it every 10 feet. Keep being mentally retarded and forking over your money instead of researching the science behind how these things actually work. But think what u will, popular opinion doesnt mean "correct" but by all means if i were an oil industry i would want u too believe oil is the most fragile substance on the planet and MUST be changed every time you park your car or 6 kittens will explode.

FPenvy · 06-24-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

Again. Difference between conventional, half and full synthetic. Its all good, u dont have to believe me, do the ******* research yourself and stop being a consumer toolbag. I dont have to prove to u im right, but if you say so u should prove that im wrong. I gave a set of parameters. In a well maintained, well treated, well designed car with PROPER full synthetic oil there is absolutely no reason to change it every 10 feet. Keep being mentally retarded and forking over your money instead of researching the science behind how these things actually work. But think what u will, popular opinion doesnt mean "correct" but by all means if i were an oil industry i would want u too believe oil is the most fragile substance on the planet and MUST be changed every time you park your car or 6 kittens will explode.

i just think someone got anal raped by some big company one time and is still salty there was no lube, reach around, or kiss/cuddle afterwards.....

i mean just seems like thats the case since your take on full synthetic oil lasting forever is just completely asinine.

jwick · 06-24-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i just think someone got anal raped by some big company one time and is still salty there was no lube, reach around, or kiss/cuddle afterwards.....

i mean just seems like thats the case since your take on full synthetic oil lasting forever is just completely asinine.

stupid is still giving his opinion like it's fact. WE all know just how much his opinions mean around here.

JARblue · 06-24-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chii370

Again. Difference between conventional, half and full synthetic. Its all good, u dont have to believe me, do the ******* research yourself and stop being a consumer toolbag. I dont have to prove to u im right, but if you say so u should prove that im wrong. I gave a set of parameters. In a well maintained, well treated, well designed car with PROPER full synthetic oil there is absolutely no reason to change it every 10 feet. Keep being mentally retarded and forking over your money instead of researching the science behind how these things actually work. But think what u will, popular opinion doesnt mean "correct" but by all means if i were an oil industry i would want u too believe oil is the most fragile substance on the planet and MUST be changed every time you park your car or 6 kittens will explode.

Random dude on the internet says its ok to have 10K+ mile OCI in spite of the manufacturer recommendations. You say you don't have to prove you're right, but you don't have any qualifications that permit you to make such a claim without proof. So please,

Next time I change my Mobil 1 at 5K miles, I'm going to mail it to you. I want you to look at it and tell me that you would be willing to put it in your engine and run it another 5K miles. Then, I want you to actually do it.

wsarver · 06-24-2014, 11:28 AM

The man does have an interesting view on kitten control I must admit!
Sub'd OP I want to see Nissan take care of the issue.
Checked my oil today. Was planning on changing this weekend. Burned a little bit but hopefully not any amount worth concern. I'll know for sure when I drain it.

2011 Nismo#91 · 06-24-2014, 12:51 PM

For reference,

The Nissan Synthetic Ester Oil that came in the car with less than 3K miles with actually 11 months in the pan was already out of spec for viscosity. I would like to see an oil analysis of a 10k mile oil. And if I wanted to really not fork over money to the oil fat cats I would not have gotten a car that runs on PREMIUM GAS.

Davey · 06-24-2014, 01:13 PM

I do 6 month intervals or 5K miles whichever comes first, which is always 6 months. I enjoy making obese, greasy kittens.

As far as the "oil light" thing, it's oil pressure, as was already pointed out. You won't lose oil pressure from low oil until it is way too low. However your engine can be full of oil and you can lose oil pressure, so it's important to know what you are looking at. If you thought "Hey the oil light is on" so you checked the dipstick and it read full, would you think it was a malfunction of your "oil light"? That could be a costly mistake. Again, know what you are looking at.

Akurei · 06-24-2014, 06:03 PM

I just checked my engine oil at 1,000 miles after oil change. No loss of oil at all. Won't really see anything until about another 1k or so but so far I'm stoked

Plasmite · 06-24-2014, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370

Again. Difference between conventional, half and full synthetic. Its all good, u dont have to believe me, do the ******* research yourself and stop being a consumer toolbag. I dont have to prove to u im right, but if you say so u should prove that im wrong. I gave a set of parameters. In a well maintained, well treated, well designed car with PROPER full synthetic oil there is absolutely no reason to change it every 10 feet. Keep being mentally retarded and forking over your money instead of researching the science behind how these things actually work. But think what u will, popular opinion doesnt mean "correct" but by all means if i were an oil industry i would want u too believe oil is the most fragile substance on the planet and MUST be changed every time you park your car or 6 kittens will explode.

Heavy duty apprentice here and I do oil changes every 500-1000 hours of engine wear. I recommend the same for ANY combustion engine out there, diesel or otherwise. Asinine doesn't begin to cover your ignorance.

06-24-2014, 10:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 15	Again. Difference between conventional, half and full synthetic. Its all good, u dont have to believe me, do the ******* research yourself and stop being a consumer toolbag. I dont have to prove to u im right, but if you say so u should prove that im wrong. I gave a set of parameters. In a well maintained, well treated, well designed car with PROPER full synthetic oil there is absolutely no reason to change it every 10 feet. Keep being mentally retarded and forking over your money instead of researching the science behind how these things actually work. But think what u will, popular opinion doesnt mean "correct" but by all means if i were an oil industry i would want u too believe oil is the most fragile substance on the planet and MUST be changed every time you park your car or 6 kittens will explode. Last edited by chii370; 06-24-2014 at 10:21 AM.

06-24-2014, 12:51 PM	#27 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,383 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 33858	For reference, The Nissan Synthetic Ester Oil that came in the car with less than 3K miles with actually 11 months in the pan was already out of spec for viscosity. I would like to see an oil analysis of a 10k mile oil. And if I wanted to really not fork over money to the oil fat cats I would not have gotten a car that runs on PREMIUM GAS. jrb55gh and wsarver like this.

06-24-2014, 01:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	I do 6 month intervals or 5K miles whichever comes first, which is always 6 months. I enjoy making obese, greasy kittens. As far as the "oil light" thing, it's oil pressure, as was already pointed out. You won't lose oil pressure from low oil until it is way too low. However your engine can be full of oil and you can lose oil pressure, so it's important to know what you are looking at. If you thought "Hey the oil light is on" so you checked the dipstick and it read full, would you think it was a malfunction of your "oil light"? That could be a costly mistake. Again, know what you are looking at. 2011 Nismo#91 likes this. Last edited by Davey; 06-24-2014 at 01:16 PM.

06-23-2014, 09:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
chii370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: . Posts: 642 Drives: . Rep Power: 15	wow, havent had a huge oil issue yet. it leaks a little, which is 100% more than it should...... but nowhere near 3 quarts. more like a half quart in 10k miles "i run full synth longer" as anyone knows you only really need to change the filter on a well treated well built engine. If you think otherwise, by all means please keep forking over your dollars to the oil fatcats.

06-24-2014, 11:28 AM	#26 (permalink)
wsarver Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 115 Drives: 2015 Silverado Rep Power: 11	The man does have an interesting view on kitten control I must admit! Sub'd OP I want to see Nissan take care of the issue. Checked my oil today. Was planning on changing this weekend. Burned a little bit but hopefully not any amount worth concern. I'll know for sure when I drain it.

06-24-2014, 06:03 PM	#29 (permalink)
Akurei Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: California Posts: 319 Drives: 14 370z Rep Power: 11	I just checked my engine oil at 1,000 miles after oil change. No loss of oil at all. Won't really see anything until about another 1k or so but so far I'm stoked