Z1 Motorsport oil cooler install, oil warning light at start up

Whtfairladyz · 10-14-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss_302

Since all this I found that Mocal makes a new heavy duty more robust adapter for only a few dollars more. I would check the sensor's and wires and make sure nothing is damaged or grounded.

With my involvement in the assembly of the Z1 Oil Cooler Kit, if I recall correctly, the HD Cooler you are speaking about is too large to fit on the 370Z. There are many design considerations you have to consider. The frame of the oil cooler has to fit against the engine without contacting anything and be able to have the line attached. Additionally, even though the Sandwich plate has a M20x1.25 thread pitch, the diameter of the O-ring and O-ring seat are critical. I recall investigating a few models on the market that would "technically" bolt on, but the O-ring of the oil filter was too narrow and risked causing a leak. Keep this in mind with searching for alternatives.

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Originally Posted by peter_s

Is there supposed to be a valve blocking the reverse flow in the oil filter adapter?

There is a valve that moves in response to Oil Temp. It should be OPEN when cold. Then close off (EXTEND) when Oil Temps rise.

ltullos · 10-14-2013, 09:09 PM

I have my Z1 34 row cooler waiting to be installed in the next 3 to 4 weeks so this concerns me. Would really like to hear from other owners that have this chime in.

Rusty · 10-14-2013, 10:48 PM

I have the 34r cooler. I've never noticed this problem. I'll check in the morning on mine.

peter_s · 10-15-2013, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I have the 34r cooler. I've never noticed this problem. I'll check in the morning on mine.

Thanks mate!

Still waiting for input regarding the oil filter adapter. It's really the only thing that I can think of that can malfunction here. And Dustin, it's as you say; Open when cold and shut when closed as we can see now.

The cooler and hoses are still fitted, zip tied and plugged. So basically it should only be a matter of installing another adapter to see if that solves the problem.

I'll keep you all updated of my progress anyway. This problem still puzzles me, my track car that is being renovated also has an oil cooler and I've never had these problems before. And it's like the mechanic told me, he has installed dozens of oil coolers and never seen a problem like this. That's why he was so cautious when he saw the light (great mechanic that one!)

Rusty · 10-16-2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

I have the 34r cooler. I've never noticed this problem. I'll check in the morning on mine.

Ok, I checked mine. Soon as I start up. Light goes out.

gurneyeagle · 10-19-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ltullos

I have my Z1 34 row cooler waiting to be installed in the next 3 to 4 weeks so this concerns me. Would really like to hear from other owners that have this chime in.

I've got the Z1 25 row cooler and have zero problems.

osbornsm · 10-31-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

I've got the Z1 25 row cooler and have zero problems.

That's +1 from me. 25 row thermostatic cooler, no issues too.

synolimit · 10-15-2013, 03:19 PM

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Chuck33079 · 10-15-2013, 03:31 PM

I'd think Z1 knows a thing or two about their own product, dude.

Whtfairladyz · 10-15-2013, 10:22 PM

synolimit,
I realize that you are referring to the anti-drain back valve located in the oil filter. That serves multiple purposes and may help out with drain back from the core some. However, the thermostatic sandwich plate itself is never closed when cold (unless you purchase the non-thermostatic unit). Since it is not closed, it will by-pass the filter altogether and can still drain the core back into the oil pan.

peter_s · 10-22-2013, 02:48 AM

Thanks fellas! Appreciate your replies about your coolers working.

I'm thinking of trying a new thermostat/oil filter adapter. I'll keep you all updated. Obviously something is not right here with a part, I can't come up with another solution.

Either that or something is so different with the Europe spec cars, but I highly doubt that.

Rusty · 10-22-2013, 04:07 AM

Remove your oil pressure sensor, and wipe the end of it off. You may have gotten some crap on it.

peter_s · 10-31-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Remove your oil pressure sensor, and wipe the end of it off. You may have gotten some crap on it.

Thanks Rusty, good idea.

Question still remains why it's back to normal after disconnection the adaptor/thermostatic plate.

I haven't had time to look into it again, been away travelling so it's time to see if I can fix this.

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,525 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	I have the 34r cooler. I've never noticed this problem. I'll check in the morning on mine. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I'd think Z1 knows a thing or two about their own product, dude. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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Whtfairladyz Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winchester, TN Posts: 77 Drives: '92 Nissan 300zx Rep Power: 267	synolimit, I realize that you are referring to the anti-drain back valve located in the oil filter. That serves multiple purposes and may help out with drain back from the core some. However, the thermostatic sandwich plate itself is never closed when cold (unless you purchase the non-thermostatic unit). Since it is not closed, it will by-pass the filter altogether and can still drain the core back into the oil pan. Chuck33079 likes this. __________________ Whtfairladyz formerly Dustin@Z1

10-22-2013, 04:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,525 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684439	Remove your oil pressure sensor, and wipe the end of it off. You may have gotten some crap on it. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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10-14-2013, 09:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
ltullos Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DFW Posts: 312 Drives: 2016 Nismo Tech MT Rep Power: 15	I have my Z1 34 row cooler waiting to be installed in the next 3 to 4 weeks so this concerns me. Would really like to hear from other owners that have this chime in.

10-22-2013, 02:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
peter_s Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 16 Drives: 370z - Manual Rep Power: 14	Thanks fellas! Appreciate your replies about your coolers working. I'm thinking of trying a new thermostat/oil filter adapter. I'll keep you all updated. Obviously something is not right here with a part, I can't come up with another solution. Either that or something is so different with the Europe spec cars, but I highly doubt that.

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