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synolimit 04-28-2014 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Yutnaka (Post 2796830)
There was a post on Zatlantas facebook. A nismo made 357whp with e85 and 346 on pump. Apparently Z1 and TSM is starting to put GTR injectors and a fuel pump.

What dyno/correction factor? The gain of e85 is nice but 346 seems awfully generous!

Jordo! 04-28-2014 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2797718)
What dyno/correction factor? The gain of e85 is nice but 346 seems awfully generous!

Yeahhhh... that's pretty high.

This time I'm going to be the one to say "impossible".

carlitos_370z 04-28-2014 06:39 AM

want to know the mods..... have to be interesting

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2797750)
Yeahhhh... that's pretty high.

This time I'm going to be the one to say "impossible".

Not on Z1's dyno. Theirs is very optimistic. Helps to sell parts to have one that reads on the high side. ;)

FPenvy 04-28-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2797889)
Not on Z1's dyno. Theirs is very optimistic. Helps to sell parts to have one that reads on the high side. ;)

note to self: dyno my car at Z1 next time.

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:29 AM

This car was not tuned/ dyno at Z1. The only connection with Z1 is the guy who tuned it left Z1 a few months back and now works at TSM. This was done at Topspeed Motosports in Alpharetta, Ga.

I'll post the dyno chart in a sec.

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798206)
This car was not tuned/ dyno at Z1. The only connection with Z1 is the guy who tuned it left Z1 a few months back and now works at TSM. This was done at Topspeed Motosports in Alpharetta, Ga.

I'll post the dyno chart in a sec.

Ah. That wasn't clear. Still, I'm very skeptical that a NA car picked up that much power from E85.

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:40 AM

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jpritche 04-28-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798216)
Ah. That wasn't clear. Still, I'm very skeptical that a NA car picked up that much power from E85.


Yeah. It wasn't very clear. To be further clear, I do not have a dog in this race. Haha.


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Chuck33079 04-28-2014 11:42 AM

If it's legit and not just a juiced dyno, tons of guys here are going to go E85 if it performs like that.

Jordo! 04-28-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2797889)
Not on Z1's dyno. Theirs is very optimistic. Helps to sell parts to have one that reads on the high side. ;)

Heh. Well, it would be interesting to see both the actual correction value applied as well as the weather/air pressure readings they were based on.

Anytime I see a correction factor value greater than 1.03 I know to take the numbers with a pinch of salt. Two pinches if 1.05 or higher.

EDIT: Yeah, I'm guessing some pretty high over correction might be at play there...

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:47 AM

Mods:

Z1 headers
Tomei TP
Tomei Exhaust
TSM modified AFe Intakes
TSM "Secret Sauce"
Fuel System Upgrade(E85)
TSM tuned

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2798222)
Heh. Well, it would be interesting to see both the actual correction value applied as well as the weather/air pressure readings they were based on.

Anytime I see a correction factor value greater than 1.03 I know to take the numbers with a pinch of salt. Two pinches if 1.05 or higher.

EDIT: Yeah, I'm guessing some pretty high over correction might be at play there...

I'll see what I can find.

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798226)
Mods:

Z1 headers
Tomei TP
Tomei Exhaust
TSM modified AFe Intakes
TSM "Secret Sauce"
Fuel System Upgrade(E85)
TSM tuned

What's a stock Z baseline there?

FPenvy 04-28-2014 11:52 AM

i still say its fake numbers.

that set-up is similar to mine plus headers with e85

and you're saying it somehow has 33WHP more?

sign me up for e85 then lol

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2798240)
i still say its fake numbers.

that set-up is similar to mine plus headers with e85

and you're saying it somehow has 33WHP more?

sign me up for e85 then lol

The headers would be a nice bump from where you are. The E85 is the part in question. 20-25whp from E85 isn't unheard of, but I'm still leaning towards it being a 340whp car on a generous dyno.

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:56 AM

I'm not sure about a stock baseline. From the video, it's hard to make out, but at the top right of the tv monitor it says "CF: STD Smoothing: 5"

Idk if that's the correction factor you were talking about but that's the best I got lol. I would share it, but it's in a private fb group so it's rather hard to do.

jpritche 04-28-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798248)
The headers would be a nice bump from where you are. The E85 is the part in question. 20-25whp from E85 isn't unheard of, but I'm still leaning towards it being a 340whp car on a generous dyno.

Also don't forget, this is the guy that helped come up with Z1 secret intake mod, so there is no telling what the modified intakes help in this situation...

Again, I have no dog in this race lol

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798249)
I'm not sure about a stock baseline. From the video, it's hard to make out, but at the top right of the tv monitor it says "CF: STD Smoothing: 3"

Idk if that's the correction factor you were talking about but that's the best I got lol. I would share it, but it's in a private fb group so it's rather hard to do.

If you know the guy, lean on him to dyno it somewhere else and see if the gains are legit. If not, oh well. If E85 really does that for a NA Z, more people will be doing it and we'll see how that works out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798252)
Also don't forget, this is the guy that helped come up with Z1 secret intake mod, so there is no telling what the modified intakes help in this situation...

Again, I have no dog in this race lol

The super secret ported stock intake manifold Z1 is selling? They claim some pretty good numbers from that alone.

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2798257)
If you know the guy, lean on him to dyno it somewhere else and see if the gains are legit. If not, oh well. If E85 really does that for a NA Z, more people will be doing it and we'll see how that works out.



The super secret ported stock intake manifold Z1 is selling? They claim some pretty good numbers from that alone.

The nismo will be at ZDayZ for sure. They are having a dyno day before ZDayZ at Z1 so I'm sure she(the owner) will dyno it there.

Yes the Z1 manifold they are selling.

allystephy 04-28-2014 12:03 PM

Z1 Headers, Tomei Test pipes, Tomei Exhaust, TSM Modified AFe Intakes, TSM Secret sauce, Fuel system upgrade, TopSpeed Motorsports Tuned
357.13/288.37

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:03 PM

Supposedly a stock nismo makes low 270's on their dyno.

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:04 PM

There is the owner. She can chime in on things I don't know! ^^^^^

FPenvy 04-28-2014 12:05 PM

...............still dont believe it lol

allystephy 04-28-2014 12:07 PM

346 was with pump gas

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:07 PM

Well drive to Z1 on May 3 Frank so we can settle this once and for all.:roflpuke2:

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 12:08 PM

I hope it's legit. That would be awesome. Until I see another car put down those numbers or we see a dyno pull from someplace else confirming it or some trap speed, I'm going to remain skeptical.

allystephy 04-28-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2798240)
i still say its fake numbers.

that set-up is similar to mine plus headers with e85

and you're saying it somehow has 33WHP more?

sign me up for e85 then lol

We can make another video for you to prove it ;-)

FPenvy 04-28-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798279)
Well drive to Z1 on May 3 Frank so we can settle this once and for all.:roflpuke2:

yea ok let me get right on that drive from PA to GA lol i'll settle for some video :tiphat:

i got my long drive the following weekend to zdayz anyways. dont need a practice run lol :bowrofl:

O&G 04-28-2014 12:11 PM

Unless you can get all these people on the same dyno on the same day it really doesn't mean anything. Who can out drive who on a track would be more interesting to me!

Dynos = tuning tool

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2798290)
yea ok let me get right on that drive from PA to GA lol i'll settle for some video :tiphat:

i got my long drive the following weekend to zdayz anyways. dont need a practice run lol :bowrofl:

:bowrofl: it's just a short little drive. I'm thinking maybe a back to back dyno of her car, a stock 370z, and Mike (the powdercoater) car.

That would clear everything up, right?

Chuck33079 04-28-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allystephy (Post 2798286)
We can make another video for you to prove it ;-)

Hit the track. Trap speeds don't lie. :tup:

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2798295)
Unless you can get all these people on the same dyno on the same day it really doesn't mean anything. Who can out drive who on a track would be more interesting to me!

Dynos = tuning tool

There is a Z1 dyno day this Saturday lol.

O&G 04-28-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798301)
There is a Z1 dyno day this Saturday lol.

why is that lol? Get all you east coast boys/girls together and go lay down some numbers then!

FPenvy 04-28-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798297)
:bowrofl: it's just a short little drive. I'm thinking maybe a back to back dyno of her car, a stock 370z, and Mike (the powdercoater) car.

That would clear everything up, right?

yea a short jaunt down the road like i'm goin to pick up something from the corner store lol :driving:

there's something fishy being done here where 2 GA people got these numbers and no one else does......what in the water down there? lol :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

Rusty 04-28-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2798309)
yea a short jaunt down the road like i'm goin to pick up something from the corner store lol :driving:

there's something fishy being done here where 2 GA people got these numbers and no one else does......what in the water down there? lol :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

It's that moonshine that they brew down there.

carlitos_370z 04-28-2014 12:17 PM

damn i want to see some video of this... and if this its true i think im going to start work on my engine

FPenvy 04-28-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2798316)
It's that moonshine that they brew down there.

thats whats going in the gas tanks.....makes sense now. :bowrofl:


that stuff is something esle :yum:. i love when i can get some shipped up from KY once in a while.

jpritche 04-28-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2798306)
why is that lol? Get all you east coast boys/girls together and go lay down some numbers then!

Habit to be honest. I'll try and convince them to dyno a stock Z then her Nismo.

Jordo! 04-28-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jpritche (Post 2798226)
TSM "Secret Sauce"

Er... what the heck is the "secret sauce".

If they're running something like a nitromethane blend then those numbers may be closer to reality than I would have thought.


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