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brucelidat 06-07-2015 02:52 AM

Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

V1H 06-07-2015 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3220923)
Wonder how much more you could of gained tuning with ecu tek. Now vvel tuning is available

Sounds good. I was considering EcuTek but for some reason went with UpRev. Still, my tuner actually said EcuTek is more powerful and he does EcuTek, too. Now that I cashed out on the UpRev license already and wanting to go TT this year, I'll wait and see what the TT kit comes with. Since GTM let me down real bad Im considering F.I., but still don't know if their kit is for RHD. Wish I lived in :usa: lol

Btw, after the dyno runs my dash showed a DTC (red lamp for open bonnet) and clearing the DTCs with UpRev didn't help. My his EcuTek cable (which he only got for the GTR as of now) DID clear the DTC :)

I.e, another +1 for EcuTek

Jordo! 06-07-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3221194)
Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

That had to be a problem of more flow potential than the blowers could handle.

Too small, bottle neck; too big, everything slows down. Getting it just right is the hard part on designing these sorts of things.

Same goes for the IC piping and core, BTW...

brucelidat 06-07-2015 12:54 PM

Stillen said it was due to overlap or timing or so ething related to vvel. I don't think the issue is that the blower came move enough air.

synolimit 09-15-2015 05:20 PM

For you dynojet people, I'm curious of the wheels and tires.

chuckie311 09-16-2015 11:48 AM

my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

synolimit 09-16-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3310350)
my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

chuckie311 09-16-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3310420)
What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

number change with the gears there is no 1:1 or anything close to it with the gear change
my tuner said that the dynojet is simulate driving on the street so its load based.





320whp-268tq 3.36 gears
301whp-249tq 4.08 gears


red was 4.08 4th gear
yellow was 3.36 4th gear
green was 4.08 5th gear

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...11/image_1.jpg

brucelidat 09-16-2015 04:13 PM

interesting, so my number might be higher if i were running stock gears

chuckie311 09-16-2015 04:18 PM

it absolutely would be..as you see I saw a loss of 19whp and TQ with the gear change..
as my tuner said don't get stuck on numbers its just for tuning and such..
I wouldn't switch back to the stock gear for anything I love the 4.08
im going to try and hit the track within the next few months and get some trap times

12nismo 09-16-2015 04:30 PM

^ Agreed, I've been told the same thing in regards to my 4.08 FD since 5th gear is now under 1:1. The engine still makes the same power, but it will read lower than it actually is. Makes me want to slap a factory FD in the car just to see what it makes now...I'm making 345whp now on the 4.08's.

chuckie311 09-16-2015 06:02 PM

Wow those are some great numbers on the 4.08 gears

phunk 09-16-2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12nismo (Post 3310564)
^ Agreed, I've been told the same thing in regards to my 4.08 FD since 5th gear is now under 1:1. The engine still makes the same power, but it will read lower than it actually is. Makes me want to slap a factory FD in the car just to see what it makes now...I'm making 345whp now on the 4.08's.

That doesnt exactly make sense.

The 5th transmission gear is still 1:1, no matter what you do with the final drive.

The reason you lose power with the 4.08 on the dyno is because the final drive ratio is now further away from 1:1 (independent of the transmission). The further you go from 1:1, the greater the losses through the gearing in the final drive itself.

So 5th gear is still 1:1, its just that you have increased losses in the differential.

Also, I believe that the quicker rate of acceleration on the dyno will cause power reading to go down. But that one I am still on the fence about.

brucelidat 09-16-2015 06:21 PM

I'm not switching back unless I go TT, just good to know since my numbers seemed a bit low for my mods.

PharmDZ 01-16-2016 11:31 AM

My latest retune (after switching from Motordyne M370, Injen CAI to Z1 upper/lower intake manifold and AAM intakes)

Top line is the before, middle is the final product, bottom is the new mods minus the tune.


http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/...psaoae4zqn.jpg


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