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synolimit 10-24-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3010734)
What do you want 3rd gear or second to 3rd gear?

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i started low in 2nd and redlined 3rd. fastest way i found.

synolimit 10-24-2014 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3010764)
Either way if ypu doubt the power i made your fighting an exercise in futility i put down 60 more hp than multiple cars with full boltons on sebs dyno, there have been quite a few z's through his door and my nubers completely eclipse them.

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i dont doubt the numbers, i see them, and their STD. so i want to see what that looks like in the real world.


PS, you will need a weight too.

FPenvy 10-24-2014 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3011189)
i dont doubt the numbers, i see them, and their STD. so i want to see what that looks like in the real world.


PS, you will need a weight too.

probably would look like tail lights to you :bowrofl:

bullitt5897 10-24-2014 11:28 AM

1slow's dry sump is referred to as his water feature! He knows what I'm talking about! That is one scary fast NA Z... Way faster than any NA Z I have seen! I would say it acts more like a V8 than anything else!!! But with an 8200 rpm redline!!!!

1slow370 10-24-2014 11:41 AM

Haha yeah the gentle swishing coming from the back lol

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phunk 10-24-2014 03:16 PM

its a hassle how the oil fill cap is on the front of the drivers side. have to chop it off to do anything nice for an intake manifold... which sucks even more because of plastic valvecovers.

bullitt5897 10-24-2014 07:22 PM

^^^ sounds like you need 1slow's dry sump!

phunk 10-24-2014 07:34 PM

Ya its sort of a combo pack isnt it... nice intake manifold wipes out your oil fill, dry sump allows you to fill the oil to the tank. Just PITA to build a nice intake manifold as a product for the masses due to that oil filler location. We have been back to working on our intake manifold for the big build and I keep going back and forth on whacking the filler neck off... but I dont know how much people who just want an intake manifold as a bolt on would like that.

Rusty 10-24-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3011843)
Ya its sort of a combo pack isnt it... nice intake manifold wipes out your oil fill, dry sump allows you to fill the oil to the tank. Just PITA to build a nice intake manifold as a product for the masses due to that oil filler location. We have been back to working on our intake manifold for the big build and I keep going back and forth on whacking the filler neck off... but I dont know how much people who just want an intake manifold as a bolt on would like that.

Any other way to get oil into the motor? Chop the oil cap, and make a new one in a different position.

1slow370 10-24-2014 09:46 PM

Picked up the car from seb today got stuck in traffic for 5 hours, and the big jun cams do add a bit of idle instability, but the car RIPS, the vdc has its work cut out for it the car is having a harder time controlling wheel spin, i am burning through first and second, chirping third, then it wants to break loose again towards the top of third gear sometimes. If i have a good road 6k up just flys in third gear

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Masterbeatty 10-24-2014 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3011914)
Picked up the car from seb today got stuck in traffic for 5 hours, and the big jun cams do add a bit of idle instability, but the car RIPS, the vdc has its work cut out for it the car is having a harder time controlling wheel spin, i am burning through first and second, chirping third, then it wants to break loose again towards the top of third gear sometimes. If i have a good road 6k up just flys in third gear

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I think you are lying. We need video proof of this beast on the road to know for sure. :tup:

1slow370 10-24-2014 10:01 PM

I can try to get vids when i go to the 1/4 on nov 2

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1slow370 10-24-2014 10:17 PM

Also im startin to think some of the complainers are getting a little jelly :stirthepot:

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brucelidat 10-24-2014 10:25 PM

Where do you go in socal to do 1/4 runs?

bullitt5897 10-24-2014 10:42 PM

I can tell you right now... I was the first person to ride in it when it wasn't tuned and traction was very hard to come by... I couldn't imagine what it's like now... He really needs to get some new tires.

Masterbeatty 10-24-2014 10:43 PM

Autoclub speedway

1slow370 10-25-2014 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3011943)
Autoclub speedway

yep

Masterbeatty 10-25-2014 10:22 PM

I never made it up there when I was in San diego. I settled for race legal which is an 1/8 mile, I also heard barona strip was nicely preped but its 1/8th mile too.

Masterbeatty 10-25-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3011924)
Also im startin to think some of the complainers are getting a little jelly :stirthepot:

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Nah.....:icon23:


Maybe alittle. Big props for taking the hard and expensive road of true N/A power.

I would love to have a 450Z with 450hp, but life goals take priority before that. So maybe a few yrs.

Jordo! 10-27-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3010846)
Holy crap -- that's incredible!

Not that I am in any way trying to diminish how awesome those gains are, but I am curious as to (1) what were the SAE numbers and the actual correction value for both SAE and STD? and also, (2) what were the ambient conditions? Finally, (3) I wonder if tuned for 93 it would be right about where you are with e85?

BTW, FWIW, I estimate you are making something unreal like 429 hp to the crank -- nearly 100 more than stock, which is insane!

1Slow, a fan of your work has a few questions... :tup:

Also, how's that thread coming along on the details? :pics:

1slow370 10-27-2014 02:46 PM

Its been posted

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V1H 05-31-2015 11:40 AM

Stillen Gen3 CAI
Stillen lightweight crank pulley
Z1 Motorsports modified intake plenum & PCV breather hoses
Berk 200cell HFCs
Motordyne Shockwave))) E370Z catback
UpRev tune (by Paul @ RS Tuning)

= 301.2 rwhp @ DynoDynamics

P.S.: To the tuner's surprise the car made untuned already 294.6 rwhp, which is why he explained he only managed to extract another 6.6hp.
The AFR was flattened and dialled in at around 12.8 at top end. The exh cam timing was slightly retarded throughout and ignition timing was advanced. The tune lasted ~2h and ~20 runs. The random AFR spikes where cause by the jittery sensor in the tailpipe (curve was flat on my dashboard AEM Wideband UEGO)
http://www.prelude.myzen.co.uk/370Z/bin/rwhp.jpg

Elmo370z 05-31-2015 02:17 PM

Ill hsve my dyno next year, so poor

TheBoomSpoon 06-06-2015 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by V1H (Post 3214461)
Stillen Gen3 CAI
Stillen lightweight crank pulley
Z1 Motorsports modified intake plenum & PCV breather hoses
Berk 200cell HFCs
Motordyne Shockwave))) E370Z catback
UpRev tune (by Paul @ RS Tuning)

= 301.2 rwhp @ DynoDynamics

P.S.: To the tuner's surprise the car made untuned already 294.6 rwhp, which is why he explained he only managed to extract another 6.6hp.
The AFR was flattened and dialled in at around 12.8 at top end. The exh cam timing was slightly retarded throughout. The tune lasted ~2h and ~20 runs
The random AFR spikes where cause by the jittery sensor in the tailpipe (curve was flat on my dashboard AEM Wideband UEGO)
http://www.prelude.myzen.co.uk/370Z/bin/rwhp.jpg

I'd say thats real good power on a dyno-dynamics, 315 ish on dynojet would be my uneducated guess

370Z JT 06-06-2015 04:57 PM

if that dyno graph is accurate, you gained +25ft-lbs tq through out the power band.

Elmo370z 06-06-2015 05:33 PM

Wonder how much more you could of gained tuning with ecu tek. Now vvel tuning is available

brucelidat 06-06-2015 06:05 PM

VVEL has been unlocked?

Elmo370z 06-06-2015 10:24 PM

Yes but the number of tuners is limited. And tune per gear flat foot shifting launch control etc... for na cars

brucelidat 06-06-2015 11:55 PM

So it's not for boosted applications yet?

Elmo370z 06-07-2015 01:32 AM

Yea for any application. Until u
uprev comes out with new updates ecu tek seems to be the way to go.

brucelidat 06-07-2015 02:52 AM

Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

V1H 06-07-2015 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3220923)
Wonder how much more you could of gained tuning with ecu tek. Now vvel tuning is available

Sounds good. I was considering EcuTek but for some reason went with UpRev. Still, my tuner actually said EcuTek is more powerful and he does EcuTek, too. Now that I cashed out on the UpRev license already and wanting to go TT this year, I'll wait and see what the TT kit comes with. Since GTM let me down real bad Im considering F.I., but still don't know if their kit is for RHD. Wish I lived in :usa: lol

Btw, after the dyno runs my dash showed a DTC (red lamp for open bonnet) and clearing the DTCs with UpRev didn't help. My his EcuTek cable (which he only got for the GTR as of now) DID clear the DTC :)

I.e, another +1 for EcuTek

Jordo! 06-07-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3221194)
Oh, you're saying it's limited for na cars, not limited to only being useful for na cars right now. So if you can tune vvel you could maybe get more power out of a stillen sc kit with headers versus stock cats since stillen was saying that was the reason why their kit makes more power with stock cats.

That had to be a problem of more flow potential than the blowers could handle.

Too small, bottle neck; too big, everything slows down. Getting it just right is the hard part on designing these sorts of things.

Same goes for the IC piping and core, BTW...

brucelidat 06-07-2015 12:54 PM

Stillen said it was due to overlap or timing or so ething related to vvel. I don't think the issue is that the blower came move enough air.

synolimit 09-15-2015 05:20 PM

For you dynojet people, I'm curious of the wheels and tires.

chuckie311 09-16-2015 11:48 AM

my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

synolimit 09-16-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311 (Post 3310350)
my first dyno i was running stock gear 3.36 with 20 inch vossen with 245/35/20 hankook
second dyno 4.08 gear 20 inch vossen with 255/35/20 BFG G-Sport pro comp 2

What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

chuckie311 09-16-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3310420)
What happened with power? Dynojet compensate or did your number change?

number change with the gears there is no 1:1 or anything close to it with the gear change
my tuner said that the dynojet is simulate driving on the street so its load based.





320whp-268tq 3.36 gears
301whp-249tq 4.08 gears


red was 4.08 4th gear
yellow was 3.36 4th gear
green was 4.08 5th gear

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...11/image_1.jpg

brucelidat 09-16-2015 04:13 PM

interesting, so my number might be higher if i were running stock gears

chuckie311 09-16-2015 04:18 PM

it absolutely would be..as you see I saw a loss of 19whp and TQ with the gear change..
as my tuner said don't get stuck on numbers its just for tuning and such..
I wouldn't switch back to the stock gear for anything I love the 4.08
im going to try and hit the track within the next few months and get some trap times


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