Question about injector cleaners and similar products

RiCharlie · 04-28-2013, 03:55 PM

Hi

I just bought some "Lucas Upper cylinder lubricant and injection cleaner"..some for my car with35K on it and my wifes with 160K.. I was going to add it but then remembered a post a long time ago about crap that is sold and put into cars that may actually harm them

What do you think of this product and what should I do to keep the engine clean?

Dont know a damn thing about engines so I thought I would ask here.

Thanks

DEpointfive0 · 04-28-2013, 03:59 PM

I pour all sorts of shít into my cars, lol
You'll be fine, and Lucas makes a good product. Don't worry, add it and be happy

Wonka2581 · 04-28-2013, 04:05 PM

Lucas makes pretty good stuff, all the red necks around here use some stuff called C-FOAM.

DEpointfive0 · 04-28-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581

Lucas makes pretty good stuff, all the red necks around here use some stuff called C-FOAM.

LMAO!!! Seafoam IS THE SHÍT

Wonka2581 · 04-28-2013, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

LMAO!!! Seafoam IS THE SHÍT

Haha ya what ever c-foam, seafoam same crap lol

N0SL3N · 04-28-2013, 08:45 PM

I use the Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant and Injector Cleaner and find that I now get full dots on the gas display and better mileage.

1st · 04-29-2013, 09:17 AM

I use the Lucas Fuel Injector Cleaner (Upper Cylinder Lubricant) every 3k miles.

Jordo! · 04-29-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by N0SL3N

I use the Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant and Injector Cleaner and find that I now get full dots on the gas display and better mileage.

That is most likely due to it cleaning the fuel sender. They're a bit touchy on our cars.

To the OP, it certainly shouldn't hurt, but a proper fuel injector servicing involves hooking a special concentrated cleaner directly up to the fuel rail.

The Lucas product is almost definitely just adding a detergent to your gas -- similar to the techron stuff -- that theoretically will help dissolve engine deposits and such.

For a quick fix, it's okay, but a real servicing wouldn't be a bad idea.

I wouldn't use that seafoam stuff... its probably as likely to gunk up something in the EVAP system as it is to clean anything.

RiCharlie · 04-29-2013, 09:58 AM

How often should I do a complete fuel injector service? If i listen to the dealer I am sure they will say one thing but what is the real truth?

I figured I would use this product more as a maintenance

cheshirecat · 04-29-2013, 11:38 AM

Seafoam is usually pretty impressive stuff. I personally would not recommend any commercial do-it-yourself cleaner for the 370z, as Nissan advises against it in the service manual (section 9-5 in the 2013 manual, not sure where it's at for prior years):

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NISSAN does not recommend the use of any fuel additives (that is, fuel injector cleaner, octane booster, intake valve deposit removers,

etc.) which are sold commercially.

Many of these additives intended for gum, varnish or deposit
removal may contain active solvent or similar ingredients that can be harmful to the fuel system and engine.

Nissan, as well as other manufactuers, have been known to use BG44K for high-mileage injector services paired up to an actual machine (mentioned earlier in this thread) that cleans the fuel system while it's disconnected from the actual fuel rail.

If you're running a premium fuel which already has detergents included (such as Techron), you should not have to worry about any kind of excess buildup in the injectors, as the gas and detergent will "wash" the injectors and intake valves.

Nissan does not have a service interval specified for the injectors. Also, any dealer that tries to sell you an injector cleaning ever 10, 15, or 20k miles is just upselling you for extra cash.

Motion Lab · 04-30-2013, 12:03 PM

I think the results from products like these are so minimal its not worth the money. If possible you should pull the injectors and have someone clean and flow test them. Not only will the ultrasonic bath clean them to like new status, you will have a flow report to ensure all are flowing equally and functioning correctly.

If this is not possible I guess a bottle of this stuff wont help.... just dont expect a miracle!

Thanks,
Alex Goodwin
AlexG@motionlabtuning.com

04-28-2013, 03:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 15	Question about injector cleaners and similar products Hi I just bought some "Lucas Upper cylinder lubricant and injection cleaner"..some for my car with35K on it and my wifes with 160K.. I was going to add it but then remembered a post a long time ago about crap that is sold and put into cars that may actually harm them What do you think of this product and what should I do to keep the engine clean? Dont know a damn thing about engines so I thought I would ask here. Thanks

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Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2611	Lucas makes pretty good stuff, all the red necks around here use some stuff called C-FOAM. __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

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RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 15	How often should I do a complete fuel injector service? If i listen to the dealer I am sure they will say one thing but what is the real truth? I figured I would use this product more as a maintenance

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Motion Lab A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,676 Drives: Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 17	I think the results from products like these are so minimal its not worth the money. If possible you should pull the injectors and have someone clean and flow test them. Not only will the ultrasonic bath clean them to like new status, you will have a flow report to ensure all are flowing equally and functioning correctly. If this is not possible I guess a bottle of this stuff wont help.... just dont expect a miracle! Thanks, Alex Goodwin AlexG@motionlabtuning.com