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G35guy84 09-08-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 190362)
How would it compair to say KW V3s? Price:performance etc etc..

Thanks for all the updates Sharif, you guys always have great stuff for this community!

:iagree:

Ryan@Forged 09-09-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 190362)
How would it compair to say KW V3s? Price : performance etc etc..

Thanks for all the updates Sharif, you guys always have great stuff for this community!


Edited out that silly smiley :D

If JRZ were to make a shock in the price range of the KW's I would be willing to bet they would blow the KW's out of the water. I have run on KW 3 way race shocks which are supposed to be the "equivalent" to the JRZ 3 ways and I can tell you from firsthand experience that it's not even funny how much better the JRZ's are. I would only assume if JRZ were to make a coilover in the $2K range that it would be the best $2K coilover available period. It will be interesting to see what they come up with ;)

Togo 09-09-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged (Post 191283)
If JRZ were to make a shock in the price range of the KW's I would be willing to bet they would blow the KW's out of the water. I have run on KW 3 way race shocks which are supposed to be the "equivalent" to the JRZ 3 ways and I can tell you from firsthand experience that it's not even funny how much better the JRZ's are. I would only assume if JRZ were to make a coilover in the $2K range that it would be the best $2K coilover available period. It will be interesting to see what they come up with ;)

Thanks Ryan for that info but that begs the question, if JRZ is making a more "mainstream" adjustable coilover, is it likely to be in the 2K price range or are we looking at more? (Or is it too soon to tell?)

javol 09-09-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 181475)
I know that the 370Z 6MT differential is identical to the 350Z 6MT differential. So 3.9 gears for the 350Z will work on the 370Z.

Are you sure that 350Z diff and 370Z diff are identical?

It seems that there are different flavors of R200 diff...

Here we go with two OEM Nissan figure:

350Z (manual or automatic trans is tha same, only the ratio is different)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4272/img3y.jpg


370Z (manual or automatic trans is the same, only the ratio is different)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5730/img1xwi.jpg

From the images and parts numbers, we can see that 370Z diff comes with 4 satellites..... 350Z with only 2 satellites...

The other components seem to be more or less the same, but not EXACTLY the same...

At the end...

Are we sure that aftermarket 350Z ring-pinion couple (4.08, 3.9 etc..) fits 370Z?

Thank you very much to everyone giving his opinion or sharing his own personal experience, bye!

ssqpolo 09-09-2009 03:36 PM

someone on this forum already has 4.08 gears in the 370z

Ryan@Forged 09-09-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 191613)
Thanks Ryan for that info but that begs the question, if JRZ is making a more "mainstream" adjustable coilover, is it likely to be in the 2K price range or are we looking at more? (Or is it too soon to tell?)

Very good point. I would assume "more mainstream" would be relative. I would expect to see them closer to the 3K range if I were to make a guess, but it is merely that, a guess. I would imagine a "mainstream" coilover from JRZ would be priced closer what the Ohlins were for the 350z($3k). Not trying to contradict what I previously said, but I find it hard to believe they would make a product in the same price range as the HKS, Teins, etc considering their high quality standards. I do however expect it to be significantly lower than their RS Pro's which are usually around the $4500 range. As of now it is too soon to tell so all we have is speculation on prices.

javol 09-09-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ssqpolo (Post 191623)
someone on this forum already has 4.08 gears in the 370z

Ok... someone has.

But:

1) They changed the ring-pinion couple within their original 370Z diff box?

2) Or they changed the whole diff box, putting on an used 350Z one, already upgraded to 4.08?

:ugh2:

Sharif@Forged 09-09-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by javol (Post 191619)
Are you sure that 350Z diff and 370Z diff are identical?

It seems that there are different flavors of R200 diff...

Here we go with two OEM Nissan figure:

350Z (manual or automatic trans is tha same, only the ratio is different)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4272/img3y.jpg


370Z (manual or automatic trans is the same, only the ratio is different)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5730/img1xwi.jpg

From the images and parts numbers, we can see that 370Z diff comes with 4 satellites..... 350Z with only 2 satellites...

The other components seem to be more or less the same, but not EXACTLY the same...

At the end...

Are we sure that aftermarket 350Z ring-pinion couple (4.08, 3.9 etc..) fits 370Z?

Thank you very much to everyone giving his opinion or sharing his own personal experience, bye!


Let me say, that you can install a 350Z 6MT aftermarket LSD , into the 370Z 6MT pumpkin. That is what I know for certain. There maybe some different parts, but in this application, it's a direct swap.

I wasn't speaking to whether a ring-pinion swap is possible, since we have no plans to do that, or a need to do that on the race 370Z project. Although I can make an educated assumption that they are compatible. I am merely stating that an upgraded aftermarket LSD unit will drop right in.

I generally don't like to make recommendations until I've physically tested or had my hands on the product/parts.

Togo 09-10-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged (Post 191774)
Very good point. I would assume "more mainstream" would be relative. I would expect to see them closer to the 3K range if I were to make a guess, but it is merely that, a guess. I would imagine a "mainstream" coilover from JRZ would be priced closer what the Ohlins were for the 350z($3k). Not trying to contradict what I previously said, but I find it hard to believe they would make a product in the same price range as the HKS, Teins, etc considering their high quality standards. I do however expect it to be significantly lower than their RS Pro's which are usually around the $4500 range. As of now it is too soon to tell so all we have is speculation on prices.

Thanks for the input Ryan, much appreciated. :tiphat:

KingDavid 09-15-2009 11:21 AM

Uhm........

Sharif@Forged 09-16-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KingDavid (Post 199745)
Uhm........

Something caught in your throat? :bowrofl:

KingDavid 09-16-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 201116)
Something caught in your throat? :bowrofl:

Why yes.





















































UPDATES PLEASE!

Sharif@Forged 09-16-2009 05:41 PM

Coming soon guys! We also have a full service facility to run on a day to day basis. Waiting on brakes, wheels, and tires to arrive, and we'll be diving in.

Shunya 09-17-2009 04:51 PM

I wonder what wheels you're waiting for :P

Knives 09-17-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 202455)
I wonder what wheels you're waiting for :P

Wheels and what the brakes will be upgraded to.

Sharif@Forged 09-21-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 202455)
I wonder what wheels you're waiting for :P

They car custom made CCW Motorsports wheels. Nothing off the shelf would suit us. :(

Brakes are Stop Tech Trophy series 14 inch rotors all around, and 4 pistons. The trophy series is designed for track use only, and comes without power coating and dust boost (which tend to burn up and fade away).

LiquidZ 09-21-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 207793)
They car custom made CCW Motorsports wheels. Nothing off the shelf would suit us. :(

Brakes are Stop Tech Trophy series 14 inch rotors all around, and 4 pistons. The trophy series is designed for track use only, and comes without power coating and dust boost (which tend to burn up and fade away).

CCW's rock!

Are you thinking LM20, Classic, or something else? I'm assuming 18's?

Kirkster 09-21-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 207836)
CCW's rock!

Are you thinking LM20, Classic, or something else? I'm assuming 18's?

I second that.

CCWs are the bomb...

you spec it they make it. I will have a couple sets on my autox car...

Brazilbro 11-15-2009 10:07 PM

CCW's in yet? or updates?

Sharif@Forged 11-18-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 282066)
CCW's in yet? or updates?

Change of plans of the wheels. We are making 5 sets of custom TE37's in 18X11 and 18X12.5 with 370Z specific offsets. This will be the ultimate track wheel, and it will clear the OEM BBK's just fine.

Our GT-R Time Attack program (two cars) has consumed a lot of our time over the past 8 weeks. Now that the season is over (finished 3rd in the national points chase), we're back it it with the 370Z. More updates coming soon! :)

travisjb 11-18-2009 02:20 PM

wow, big wheels... what size rubber ?

Knives 11-18-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 285610)
Change of plans of the wheels. We are making 5 sets of custom TE37's in 18X11 and 18X12.5 with 370Z specific offsets. This will be the ultimate track wheel, and it will clear the OEM BBK's just fine.

Our GT-R Time Attack program (two cars) has consumed a lot of our time over the past 8 weeks. Now that the season is over (finished 3rd in the national points choice), we're back it it with the 370Z. More updates coming soon! :)

So the plan is to keep the OEM BBK?

And can't go wrong with TE37's, great choice.

FuszNissan 11-18-2009 03:26 PM

Congrats on 3rd!

Mike 11-18-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Knives (Post 285936)
So the plan is to keep the OEM BBK?

And can't go wrong with TE37's, great choice.

I don't think so, since they sold them a while back, but that was some rather odd wording Sharif. Will they clear my brembos?

bullitt5897 11-18-2009 04:14 PM

He said they would be running stoptechs I believe?...

Sharif so whens your turbo kit coming in? hehehe
Your gonna have the evil twin to me!!!

We are definitely going to have to do a photo shoot of the GTR and 2 370z's when we get them done! :tup: cant wait for your updates :D

Sharif@Forged 11-19-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 285998)
I don't think so, since they sold them a while back, but that was some rather odd wording Sharif. Will they clear my brembos?

They will clear the OEM sport brake kit (for those that aren't swapping them out). But they will also clear aftermarket BBK's as well.

We are running the StopTech Trophy Series brakes on the car...nothing changed there.

If we run a DOT tire for certain events, it will be a 295 front and 335 rear. Slicks will be 280/330 combo, as they are sized a little differently.

Mike 11-19-2009 04:56 PM

I might have to come do a test fit when they get in.

kevr6 11-28-2009 06:42 PM

Sharif,
Good meeting you in person the other day!! Thanks for the quick tour of your shop and letting me check out your project here!!
BTW: I ended up going to Nalley Infiniti in Decator and they took care of my TPMS problem without a hitch!! (friend of a co-worker there)
:tiphat:

Sharif@Forged 12-01-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kevr6 (Post 299050)
Sharif,
Good meeting you in person the other day!! Thanks for the quick tour of your shop and letting me check out your project here!!
BTW: I ended up going to Nalley Infiniti in Decator and they took care of my TPMS problem without a hitch!! (friend of a co-worker there)
:tiphat:

Nice! I was confident they would take care of those TPMS sensor resync for you. You have a beautiful ride...bring it back soon for some powwaa!

Ryan@Forged 12-15-2009 04:36 PM

Our Brakes showed up today from StopTech!

Enjoy this eye candy. It's hard to believe these will be covered in brake dust before too long :D

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...z/DSC_0846.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...opTechs020.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...opTechs015.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...opTechs022.jpg

Togo 12-15-2009 04:38 PM

wow those look really nice. can't wait to see more updates on this Z! :tup:

nogoodname 12-15-2009 04:45 PM

12.5" rims... :eek:

that's gonna be pretty wide....... good stuff

protoZ 12-15-2009 06:33 PM

hey, ryan what lap time are you guys shooting for at road atlanta. it would be a blast watching this car run down the back stretch at 160 :tup:

protoZ 12-15-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 185958)
That's correct! First stage of track testing will be NA. We're shooting for 1:35's at Road Atlanta or better. Then the twin turbo system goes in.

never mind lol

Spec Jay 12-16-2009 09:08 AM

so how do we go about getting those custom sized te's? they sound delicious haha

Sharif@Forged 12-16-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay (Post 326316)
so how do we go about getting those custom sized te's? they sound delicious haha

Final details will be released very shortly. Just getting final approvals, but they will be available to all for sale. :)

bullitt5897 12-16-2009 03:52 PM

Love it!!! The car is going strong btw! She wants to spin the 20's all day long!!! haha gotta use some throttle control lately... BTW guys Sharif does amazing work! he broke my car's new motor in and we consistently made 12hp more than the old motor! But I really wished that 280hp wasnt a fluke :( on the dyno dynamics... we would of had a MONSTER!!!! Good luck Sharif cant wait to see yall pull a 1:36 at road A!

xiven 12-16-2009 03:57 PM

i wanna see that.

protoZ 12-16-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xiven (Post 326925)
i wanna see that.

:iagree: that's pretty fast for a naturally aspirated v6 but of course not impossible. :driving:

Sharif@Forged 12-16-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by protoZ (Post 327363)
:iagree: that's pretty fast for a naturally aspirated v6 but of course not impossible. :driving:

We've done 1:40 flat in a race prepped NA 350Z making just 240whp, so I think a 1:36 is a good stretch target for the 370Z. Didn't say it would be easy though. :driving:


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