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wstar 09-01-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 181475)
I know that the 370Z 6MT differential is identical to the 350Z 6MT differential. so 3.9 gears for the 350Z will work on the 370Z.

However, I do not know for certain, if the 7AT 370Z uses the same differential, so I can't tell you with certainty.

The service manual only indicates two kinds of diffs for the 370Z: R200 (plain) and R200V (VSLD). The only MT/AT difference it notes is the gearing (3.357 AT, 3.692 MT).

xiven 09-01-2009 10:08 AM

whats next?

javol 09-01-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 181486)
The service manual only indicates two kinds of diffs for the 370Z: R200 (plain) and R200V (VSLD). The only MT/AT difference it notes is the gearing (3.357 AT, 3.692 MT).

People at mynismo.com,

when i asked them if this Z33 product would fit my 370Z 7AT

https://www.performancenissanparts.c...ducts/?id=6135

say NOT.

What happens? :ugh2:

bullitt5897 09-01-2009 05:52 PM

The forged performance 370z just got back to the shop this afternoon. I talked with Sandy and they were rolling it inside while i was talking to her. :D I look forward to seeing it tomorrow or thursday :D

wstar 09-02-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by javol (Post 182206)
People at mynismo.com,

when i asked them if this Z33 product would fit my 370Z 7AT

https://www.performancenissanparts.c...ducts/?id=6135

say NOT.

What happens? :ugh2:

Did you ask if it fits the 370Z 6MT? They may just be saying "no" on the 370Z in general because they're not aware they share a diff.

wstar 09-02-2009 08:43 AM

But in any case, the VSLD kinda sucks - it fails under excessive heat (which isn't too hard), and the VSLD part will wear out with enough hard miles anyways, which kills your limited slip for good until you get the VSLD clutch part replaced (which I imagine isn't cheap). I'm seriously thinking I should upgrade to a better LSD of some kind anyways, and change gears while I'm at it (probably just upgrade the 7AT one to the 6MT's stock gear ratio of 3.7-ish). Edit: VSLD is also less efficient than other kinds too, so upgrading can kill some drivetrain losses.

javol 09-02-2009 10:01 AM

Here we go with the two OEM Nissan figure:

350Z

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4272/img3y.jpg


370Z

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5730/img1xwi.jpg

From the images and parts numbers, we can see that 370Z diff comes with 4 satellites..... 350Z with only 2 satellites...

The other components seem to be more or less the same...

Any of you can give a reliable tech opinion? :tup:

It would be of great interest for many of us here..... because there are a lot of ring-pinion couples for 350Z and would be important to be sure that they fit our 370Z.... :rolleyes:

Bye,

wstar 09-02-2009 01:37 PM

I don't have a very informed technical opinion, but based on those diagrams I would say the Ring+Pinion gear sets are likely compatible, since they share a part number. Also, I think we've already had reports elsewhere on the forums of people upping their rear ratios to 4.xx for the dragstrip, so they must've used 350Z-designed parts.

However, most of those diagrams is greek to me. I rebuilt a differential once with a couple friends (A giant Dana one on an International Harvester Scout), and it was a complete PITA.

Lots of re-trying over and over to get certain parts pressed in with a lot of force while shimmed to an offset that was precise to hundredths of an inch, and then re-measuring and seeing that the shimming needed more adjusting, pull it back out, blah blah. Then you have all the funny noises during breakin, and wondering whether you really got it right or if the teeth are .002" too deep or shallow causing problems later, etc.

So if I ever do switch diffs and/or gears, this is one job where I'm just gonna hand the parts to a reputable mechanic that works on this stuff every day and let them go to town. There's a shop here in Houston I used before to do diff and clutch stuff on my Trans Am. They're a mechanic shop that specializes in working exclusively on differentials/gearboxes/manual transmissions of any kind and clutches, for just about any vehicle (mostly big trucks), they did a good job last time around :)

lando76 09-02-2009 07:38 PM

I love the picture of the 370z from the back with a matching white GTR on the lift that is so sick. You guys.....:drool:

Shunya 09-02-2009 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 135553)
Agreed, nice Integra.

Looking forward to updates! is the cage in yet?

thank you lol just saw this

Sharif@Forged 09-03-2009 01:57 PM

The car is still really rough at this stage. We have a mountain of additional prep work, painting, and beautifing as we go. So I probably wont post a ton more pics of the car until it looks more presentable. :) But I will definately update as components go on, such as the fuel cell, JRZ triples, wheels/tires..etc.etc. I really want to get out and drive this thing....TODAY!

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1517709/ab9.jpg

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1517710/339.jpg

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1517711/e7a.jpg

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1517712/706.jpg

SAM@GTM 09-03-2009 02:03 PM

Something is missing, a GTM twin turbo Kit maybe

Good job Guys looking good :tup::tup:

Sam

Sharif@Forged 09-03-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 184722)
Something is missing, a GTM twin turbo Kit maybe

Good job Guys looking good :tup::tup:

Sam

It's in the works. :) :bowrofl:

dyezak 09-03-2009 04:31 PM

Do the rules stipulate that the doors have to open? If not why not dump everything except the door shells and weld the shell onto the body reducing weight even more. With those NASCAR style bars opening the door doesn't make engress/egress any easier with the door open or closed.

tonytone 09-03-2009 04:43 PM

awesome

Togo 09-03-2009 05:42 PM

That looks sick. Can't wait to see how this whole car turns out.

Shunya 09-03-2009 10:35 PM

Wow the rollcage looks good :)
I like it alot.

Knives 09-03-2009 11:36 PM

Cage is lookin sharp. Nice welds.

This car isn't staying N/A right? Plans for turbo or SC??

Shunya 09-03-2009 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Knives (Post 185555)
Cage is lookin sharp. Nice welds.

This car isn't staying N/A right? Plans for turbo or SC??

I believe it's going Twin Turbo.

Sharif@Forged 09-04-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyezak (Post 184954)
Do the rules stipulate that the doors have to open? If not why not dump everything except the door shells and weld the shell onto the body reducing weight even more. With those NASCAR style bars opening the door doesn't make engress/egress any easier with the door open or closed.

The doors have to be functional, and it's definately still easier to get out with the door open. :)

Sharif@Forged 09-04-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 185565)
I believe it's going Twin Turbo.

That's correct! First stage of track testing will be NA. We're shooting for 1:35's at Road Atlanta or better. Then the twin turbo system goes in.

Shunya 09-04-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 185958)
That's correct! First stage of track testing will be NA. We're shooting for 1:35's at Road Atlanta or better. Then the twin turbo system goes in.

hahaha I'm smart :D

nogoodname 09-04-2009 09:09 AM

wow...that looks good

Shunya 09-04-2009 09:46 AM

you guys are tempting me into making the z into a race car as well.

Togo 09-04-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 186048)
you guys are tempting me into making the z into a race car as well.

You're crazy!!!!!!

nogoodname 09-04-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 186048)
you guys are tempting me into making the z into a race car as well.

do it, make Raiden have a sister...... do it

travisjb 09-04-2009 09:42 PM

Cage looks perfect! Thanks for the pics!

Sam, digging the new avatar !

kdoske 09-04-2009 10:54 PM

very sick...

Shunya 09-05-2009 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togo (Post 186494)
You're crazy!!!!!!

nonono I'm f*cking awesome!
Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 186512)
do it, make Raiden have a sister...... do it

hahaha maybe I will :)

Sharif@Forged 09-06-2009 11:54 AM

Professional awesome. :)

Ryan@Forged 09-08-2009 04:02 PM

JRZ 3 Ways are here :D

These are the same shocks you see on all of the fastest Evo's/GT-R's in Time Attack right now. Best shocks out there right now ;)

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1519089/77b.jpg

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1519090/e84.jpg

http://onfinite.com/libraries/1519091/f3b.jpg

nogoodname 09-08-2009 04:06 PM

damn that looks good

Togo 09-08-2009 06:20 PM

Wow those look sick.. i can't imagine what they cost!

imag 09-08-2009 06:24 PM

*Very* nice. Curious about the weight, especially the F/R balance after this is all done. I'm sure you are too...

mrmixitup 09-08-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 190316)
Wow those look sick.. i can't imagine what they cost!

They're just shy of $10,000 for the 2009 GT-R. Obviously best for a track dedicated car. You'll be hating life driving with those on the street everyday.

nogoodname 09-08-2009 06:30 PM

this car is gonna be a real pocket rocket.....

must take drifting videos later on when it's done..... :drool:

Togo 09-08-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmixitup (Post 190342)
They're just shy of $10,000 for the 2009 GT-R. Obviously best for a track dedicated car. You'll be hating life driving with those on the street everyday.

Yeah I figured they'd be up there.. i knew they had to be atleast 6,500 or better. I wouldn't dream of driving daily on that... hahahah oh man..

Sharif@Forged 09-08-2009 06:36 PM

Drool....looking good! We are working up the spring rate package now, and gas pressure levels before installing them on the car.

For those of you unfamilar with JRZ, they are one of the top tier motorsports shocks/coilovers in the industry. JRZ, Moton, Penske all travel in the same circles and tracks. The entire GT2 podium at last year's 24hr of Daytona race were running JRZ suspension systems. It's the top of the top stuff. :) The triple adjustables you see pictured are $9300 for the set.

The good news, is that that JRZ is almost done with development on some mainstream coilover systems that will be head and shoulders above the typical stuff you see on the market, at a more mainsteam price point as well. Stay tuned for more on this.

nogoodname 09-08-2009 06:38 PM

oooooo... creme de la creme coilovers......

Togo 09-08-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 190358)
The good news, is that that JRZ is almost done with development on some mainstream coilover systems that will be head and shoulders above the typical stuff you see on the market, at a more mainsteam price point as well. Stay tuned for more on this.

How would it compair to say KW V3s? Price : performance etc etc..

Thanks for all the updates Sharif, you guys always have great stuff for this community!


Edited out that silly smiley :D


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