Review: RJM AFP Clutch Pedal System

jooonnn · 04-10-2014, 05:43 PM

Drove a few miles so far and definitely notice a NIGHT and DAY difference for the better. Still tweaking it a little so the review will come later.

Question Ryan: Looking at other review pics and whatnot, it looks like the clutch pedal isn't an EXACT "leveled with the pedal" as the instructions ask. When i installed it i found at the 70% afp prescribed setting it was still a hair higher than the brake pedal. I also notice the oem clutch rod only has a few turns of adjustment too. Does this sound normal? I'd imagine higher AFP makes the pedal slightly higher too (but still reducing engagement point).

Ryan @ RJM · 04-10-2014, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jooonnn

Drove a few miles so far and definitely notice a NIGHT and DAY difference for the better. Still tweaking it a little so the review will come later.

Question Ryan: Looking at other review pics and whatnot, it looks like the clutch pedal isn't an EXACT "leveled with the pedal" as the instructions ask. When i installed it i found at the 70% afp prescribed setting it was still a hair higher than the brake pedal. I also notice the oem clutch rod only has a few turns of adjustment too. Does this sound normal? I'd imagine higher AFP makes the pedal slightly higher too (but still reducing engagement point).

Jooonnn, glad to hear you're enjoying your RJM pedal

Don't focus on where the pedal height is while setting up the engagement and friction points using the AFP setting + clutch rod. The only thing that matters at that stage is if you're comfortable with how its engaging. Once you get it how you like it the 2pc modular pedal arm has a 3rd adjustment point that allows the pedal pad to be adjusted ~3/4" up or down from centered and is completely independent of the upper arm adjustments which will allow you to exactly level the clutch to the brake if you want or anywhere else you wish

The factory master cylinder rod is limited in number the threads for adjustment but there should be enough to find a sweet spot.

kjz · 04-13-2014, 01:49 AM

Installed this today.. and definitely a lot better than before. I'm on a stock clutch btw. Shifting 1st and 2nd is like butter. No more jerking or anything.

Engagement point and clutch itself got lowered a lot.
I recommend this clutch pedal assmebly for those who cant get used to the stock clutch pedal!!

You won't regret !! Trust me!!

Teddy KGB · 05-10-2014, 12:17 AM

Just ordered. Can't wait to install it and melt the old assembly just for spite!

niko86 · 05-10-2014, 03:10 AM

installed the Pedal System last weekend, took me 3 hours including coffee break and adjustment afterwards.
Looks like a nicely made piece of kit.

It definitely makes a huge difference in drivability, especially starting and shifting from 1st to 2nd gear.
The pedal travel from the point of engagement to the point where it is fully engaged increased by a lot and feels like a more linear curve of bite, so it is much easier to handle.

One note though, the instructions could use some more pictures, i spent quite some time looking at the thing to figure out how it goes together, it is pretty self-explanatory though, once you put the parts in the footwell there really is only one way it will work.

jpkirk · 05-13-2014, 03:37 PM

Aaaaaand first mod ordered.

madwi · 05-18-2014, 06:47 PM

First off a big THANK YOU to Ryan! I am guessing against doctors orders he was in the shop getting my order produced and sent out, even though I said no
hurry.

I suggest start taking yoga classes at least a month prior to attempting install.

This is also one time that reading the instructions before hand a couple of times will help out while you are laying on your back under the dash. Get familiar with the parts and everything will be a breeze.
The only trouble I had was aligning the pin that goes through the new fork and and the pedal arm. If I had to do it again I would mark the hole on the pedal arm with a paint pen for a quick visual reference. A bendy neck flashlight was a god sent gift too.
Pedal feels awesome, easy gear changes and 1-2 is perfect for me. This should have been my first mod.

onzedge · 05-18-2014, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madwi

First off a big THANK YOU to Ryan! I am guessing against doctors orders he was in the shop getting my order produced and sent out, even though I said no
hurry.

I suggest start taking yoga classes at least a month prior to attempting install.

This is also one time that reading the instructions before hand a couple of times will help out while you are laying on your back under the dash. Get familiar with the parts and everything will be a breeze.
The only trouble I had was aligning the pin that goes through the new fork and and the pedal arm. If I had to do it again I would mark the hole on the pedal arm with a paint pen for a quick visual reference. A bendy neck flashlight was a god sent gift too.
Pedal feels awesome, easy gear changes and 1-2 is perfect for me. This should have been my first mod.

140BPM · 05-23-2014, 01:18 PM

About to purchase one to try for myself. Benefits seem to be covered very well in this thread... but... is there any chance this mod will reduce the "tapping" and strange sensations I get through my stock clutch pedal?

These two threads pretty much sum up what I'm talking about:
the370z.com - Clutch Tapping
the370z.com - Clutch Noise

I can't seem to find a definitive cause or solution for this on the forums - some say it's due to the stock pedal, others say it's the CMC/CSC/throwout bearing/shaft issue, and some say it's normal. At least one member said the dealership replaced the clutch assembly and that that fixed it, but it began to happen again after some time.

Honestly, I'm still going to purchase regardless if this upgrade will stop the strange tapping sensation or not. Just curious what to expect. Doesn't seem like anyone else has mentioned this yet as part of the review.

jpkirk · 05-23-2014, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk

Aaaaaand first mod ordered.

[UPDATE]

Unfortunately, I had stuff come up. Had to cancel.

What I can say is that Ryan was all over it and refunded within a couple hours. That is customer service. And when I am ready to do this later, I will have no problems coming back and trying again.

Thanks Ryan.

jk

ivtec07 · 06-04-2014, 10:46 AM

Anyone in the DMV are have experience installing this mod? I and just about ready to order but don't fully trust myself on doing the install on my new car...but don't necessarily want to pay a shop 2+ hours of labor to have this done.

Any suggestions would be appreciated and I'd definitely be up for compensating you for your time.

Thanks!

madwi · 06-04-2014, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivtec07

Anyone in the DMV are have experience installing this mod? I and just about ready to order but don't fully trust myself on doing the install on my new car...but don't necessarily want to pay a shop 2+ hours of labor to have this done.

Any suggestions would be appreciated and I'd definitely be up for compensating you for your time.

Thanks!

Hope you find someone to lend a hand. It really is a very straight forward install though. I was nervous about ripping into the clutch items myself at first but when I got going, it was a breeze. Climbing in and out from under the dash 20 times sucked the worst. I am a fat *** too so that did not help the situation either

TL;DR If this fat, old man can do it, so can you.

onzedge · 06-04-2014, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madwi

Hope you find someone to lend a hand. It really is a very straight forward install though. I was nervous about ripping into the clutch items myself at first but when I got going, it was a breeze. Climbing in and out from under the dash 20 times sucked the worst. I am a fat *** too so that did not help the situation either

TL;DR If this fat, old man can do it, so can you.

jpkirk · 06-05-2014, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madwi

TL;DR If this fat, old man can do it, so can you.

That is good to know, cuz I resemble those remarks. Fat and age tend to put a crimper in flexibility.

madwi · 06-05-2014, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpkirk

That is good to know, cuz I resemble those remarks. Fat and age tend to put a crimper in flexibility.

Yoga, start NOW

It wasn't THAT bad. If I had to do it over again I would have tools in the footwell with me rather than sitting nicely laid out on the bench

04-10-2014, 05:43 PM	#61 (permalink)
jooonnn Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Carolina Posts: 270 Drives: 2013 Nismo Rep Power: 13	Drove a few miles so far and definitely notice a NIGHT and DAY difference for the better. Still tweaking it a little so the review will come later. Question Ryan: Looking at other review pics and whatnot, it looks like the clutch pedal isn't an EXACT "leveled with the pedal" as the instructions ask. When i installed it i found at the 70% afp prescribed setting it was still a hair higher than the brake pedal. I also notice the oem clutch rod only has a few turns of adjustment too. Does this sound normal? I'd imagine higher AFP makes the pedal slightly higher too (but still reducing engagement point). onzedge likes this. __________________ Try things once to see how it feels. Try things a second time to make sure you didn't like it

04-13-2014, 01:49 AM	#63 (permalink)
kjz Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Socal Posts: 70 Drives: 2011 370z Sport Rep Power: 12	Installed this today.. and definitely a lot better than before. I'm on a stock clutch btw. Shifting 1st and 2nd is like butter. No more jerking or anything. Engagement point and clutch itself got lowered a lot. I recommend this clutch pedal assmebly for those who cant get used to the stock clutch pedal!! You won't regret !! Trust me!! onzedge likes this.

05-10-2014, 03:10 AM	#65 (permalink)
niko86 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 46 Drives: MY05 350Z, MY10 370Z Rep Power: 12	installed the Pedal System last weekend, took me 3 hours including coffee break and adjustment afterwards. Looks like a nicely made piece of kit. It definitely makes a huge difference in drivability, especially starting and shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. The pedal travel from the point of engagement to the point where it is fully engaged increased by a lot and feels like a more linear curve of bite, so it is much easier to handle. One note though, the instructions could use some more pictures, i spent quite some time looking at the thing to figure out how it goes together, it is pretty self-explanatory though, once you put the parts in the footwell there really is only one way it will work. onzedge likes this.

05-13-2014, 03:37 PM	#66 (permalink)
jpkirk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Merry Land Posts: 5,515 Drives: '14 MidBlu ST MT Rep Power: 3377	Aaaaaand first mod ordered. Nixlimited and madwi like this. __________________ intake \| exhaust \| wheels \| tires \| suspension ... um ... stock, do speed stickers count? intake \| exhaust \| TE37 SL \| RE-11 \| suspension ... um ... do speed stickers count? Signature under construction Last edited by jpkirk; 05-23-2014 at 02:18 PM.

05-18-2014, 06:47 PM	#67 (permalink)
madwi A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Michigan Posts: 31,410 Drives: Granma red Z Rep Power: 2684429	First off a big THANK YOU to Ryan! I am guessing against doctors orders he was in the shop getting my order produced and sent out, even though I said no hurry. I suggest start taking yoga classes at least a month prior to attempting install. This is also one time that reading the instructions before hand a couple of times will help out while you are laying on your back under the dash. Get familiar with the parts and everything will be a breeze. The only trouble I had was aligning the pin that goes through the new fork and and the pedal arm. If I had to do it again I would mark the hole on the pedal arm with a paint pen for a quick visual reference. A bendy neck flashlight was a god sent gift too. Pedal feels awesome, easy gear changes and 1-2 is perfect for me. This should have been my first mod. onzedge, JARblue and 1991Z32 like this.

05-10-2014, 12:17 AM	#64 (permalink)
Teddy KGB Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 79 Drives: 40th Z, Tundra, CBR6 Rep Power: 15	Just ordered. Can't wait to install it and melt the old assembly just for spite!

05-23-2014, 01:18 PM	#69 (permalink)
140BPM Base Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 55 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 12	About to purchase one to try for myself. Benefits seem to be covered very well in this thread... but... is there any chance this mod will reduce the "tapping" and strange sensations I get through my stock clutch pedal? These two threads pretty much sum up what I'm talking about: the370z.com - Clutch Tapping the370z.com - Clutch Noise I can't seem to find a definitive cause or solution for this on the forums - some say it's due to the stock pedal, others say it's the CMC/CSC/throwout bearing/shaft issue, and some say it's normal. At least one member said the dealership replaced the clutch assembly and that that fixed it, but it began to happen again after some time. Honestly, I'm still going to purchase regardless if this upgrade will stop the strange tapping sensation or not. Just curious what to expect. Doesn't seem like anyone else has mentioned this yet as part of the review. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring w/Sport 6MT

06-04-2014, 10:46 AM	#71 (permalink)
ivtec07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 13 Drives: 14 GM 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 13	Anyone in the DMV are have experience installing this mod? I and just about ready to order but don't fully trust myself on doing the install on my new car...but don't necessarily want to pay a shop 2+ hours of labor to have this done. Any suggestions would be appreciated and I'd definitely be up for compensating you for your time. Thanks!

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