Grinding into 5th?

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 07:28 PM

So I've had my Z for about 1.5 years and 18000 miles, so I believe I know when it is different.

I went TDY and while I was gone my wife took my Z to the dealer to get the oil change. Since the car was over 15000 miles they sold her on the whole service. Which is fine. Anyways when I got back and driving the car around I notice that every once in a while when I shift into 5th I get a "loose grinding feel". It's not the normal grinding I get when I miss a shift it's almost more of a crunching feel than grinding.

I took it in today because I felt that it was some sort of adjustment thingfrom the service. The car is under warranty and I didn't thing much of it. Well the service rep started going through everything that they did in the last service in order to claim that they didn't do anything to the trans or clutch.

Now it's starting to bother me cause I wasn't an azz customer I didnt yell bla or complain. I simply described the problem and when it started. I felt like it was her trying to put it back on me for grinding my gears and defend their dealership fromaybe causing the problem.

Just fix my damn car and there won't be any problems.

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 07:30 PM

Interesting. So they didn't change the trans fluid?

I know back in 2009 there were a number of 6MTs replaced due to faulty 5th gear synchros. I thought that was corrected for 2010, though.

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 07:32 PM

My was an early 2010. Built Oct 09? Bought Jan 10

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 07:34 PM

It's under warranty so just make sure they document it.

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 07:37 PM

That's what she said.

Really the service clerk was a female and she said " If they can't figure out at least it documented"

Davey · 10-06-2011, 07:47 PM

Can you reproduce the problem for the tech? If so, make them fix it.

If it's "every few times I drive" maybe you can't reproduce it yet, but more than likely you will soon. At least it's not at 58,000 miles!

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 07:52 PM

I've got 60k under my warranty. But like I've said before. The first time Nissan says it's not covered by warranty then I'm bring out the mod parts wish-list.

Davey · 10-06-2011, 07:57 PM

So... You're basically daring them to deny a claim so you can get modding.

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 08:01 PM

Why not! My other opportunity is Im trying to get assigned to Germany in a year and a half. I'd be taking it with me and Im sure I'd be voiding the warranty somehow while overseas. So I may start modding if that happens.

MattP725 · 10-06-2011, 09:19 PM

First thing I thought of was 5th gear synco too... get that replaced, it will only get worse and cause more damage.

Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 10:22 PM

Whether they changed anything or not shouldn't matter... If it's acting up, it's acting up.

Wonder if your car got a rough test drive afterwards

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 10:25 PM

That would piss me off if they did give it a rough test drive

Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 10:29 PM

Fwiw mine developed the same funky shot going into 5th out of the blue...literally didn't drive the car for a couple days, and all of a sudden 5th barely worked anymore....so it may be somewhat random.

Third dealer I went to finally took care of me. It is a known issue, even if most dealers won't admit it. Hopefully your dealer will take good care of you.

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 10:41 PM

I hope Nissan has a database of issues like this so that other dealers can see issues that happen else where

Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemers

I hope Nissan has a database of issues like this so that other dealers can see issues that happen else where

They do. It's an expensive fix though, so they try to avoid it.

10-06-2011, 07:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Grinding into 5th? So I've had my Z for about 1.5 years and 18000 miles, so I believe I know when it is different. I went TDY and while I was gone my wife took my Z to the dealer to get the oil change. Since the car was over 15000 miles they sold her on the whole service. Which is fine. Anyways when I got back and driving the car around I notice that every once in a while when I shift into 5th I get a "loose grinding feel". It's not the normal grinding I get when I miss a shift it's almost more of a crunching feel than grinding. I took it in today because I felt that it was some sort of adjustment thingfrom the service. The car is under warranty and I didn't thing much of it. Well the service rep started going through everything that they did in the last service in order to claim that they didn't do anything to the trans or clutch. Now it's starting to bother me cause I wasn't an azz customer I didnt yell bla or complain. I simply described the problem and when it started. I felt like it was her trying to put it back on me for grinding my gears and defend their dealership fromaybe causing the problem. Just fix my damn car and there won't be any problems. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 07:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Interesting. So they didn't change the trans fluid? I know back in 2009 there were a number of 6MTs replaced due to faulty 5th gear synchros. I thought that was corrected for 2010, though. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 07:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	My was an early 2010. Built Oct 09? Bought Jan 10 __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	It's under warranty so just make sure they document it. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 07:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	That's what she said. Really the service clerk was a female and she said " If they can't figure out at least it documented" __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 07:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	Can you reproduce the problem for the tech? If so, make them fix it. If it's "every few times I drive" maybe you can't reproduce it yet, but more than likely you will soon. At least it's not at 58,000 miles!

10-06-2011, 07:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I've got 60k under my warranty. But like I've said before. The first time Nissan says it's not covered by warranty then I'm bring out the mod parts wish-list. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 07:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	So... You're basically daring them to deny a claim so you can get modding.

10-06-2011, 08:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Why not! My other opportunity is Im trying to get assigned to Germany in a year and a half. I'd be taking it with me and Im sure I'd be voiding the warranty somehow while overseas. So I may start modding if that happens. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 09:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
MattP725 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toms River, NJ Posts: 1,904 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 17	First thing I thought of was 5th gear synco too... get that replaced, it will only get worse and cause more damage.

10-06-2011, 10:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Whether they changed anything or not shouldn't matter... If it's acting up, it's acting up. Wonder if your car got a rough test drive afterwards

10-06-2011, 10:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	That would piss me off if they did give it a rough test drive __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 10:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Fwiw mine developed the same funky shot going into 5th out of the blue...literally didn't drive the car for a couple days, and all of a sudden 5th barely worked anymore....so it may be somewhat random. Third dealer I went to finally took care of me. It is a known issue, even if most dealers won't admit it. Hopefully your dealer will take good care of you.

10-06-2011, 10:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I hope Nissan has a database of issues like this so that other dealers can see issues that happen else where __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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