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Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring!

Originally Posted by nis350 Looking at the mechanic of these springs. It would probably be a bit harder to press down and stronger on the return. Is that how it

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Old 05-09-2015, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking at the mechanic of these springs. It would probably be a bit harder to press down and stronger on the return. Is that how it feel after the springs removal?
To be honest with you, it feels "softer" both ways and it does not assist on the return as much as with the spring.
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The new weaker spring is being delivered to me today. I will report back in a couple of days.
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Installed the "softer" spring. Feels much better over stock. Great feel! Feels like a normal clutch now. Hopefully they (Nissan) learns about this and apply it to the next Z.
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I took off the spring all together to see how it felt. Im not getting that "wow" factor like a lot of people on here are. I still feel like that pedal is stiff with no feel. I guess its slightly better but not as much as I had hoped for. 1st gear on this car is still frustrating to me. ive been driving manual since 16 yrs old and this is the only car I have ever driven where I get nervous if on a hill stopped, and worried ill stall, buck the car, or get it into gear at a higher RPM than desired.

Oh well...
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I think the real issue with the clutch is that it engages high without any modulation. It is hard to slip the clutch for a smooth engagement like other cars.

If you analyze the mechanics of that spring, the oem one actually make it lighter both way because the spring compresses when you release the pedal and decompresses when press down. So if you remove or change to a lighter spring, all it does is make it harder both ways. It does nothing to resolve the issue of engage point and lack of modulation.

However, I am sure that we can master it by paying more attention to where the engagement point is and release the clutch accordingly. I found shifting at 2500 rpm from 1st to 2nd generates less jerkiness.



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I took off the spring all together to see how it felt. Im not getting that "wow" factor like a lot of people on here are. I still feel like that pedal is stiff with no feel. I guess its slightly better but not as much as I had hoped for. 1st gear on this car is still frustrating to me. ive been driving manual since 16 yrs old and this is the only car I have ever driven where I get nervous if on a hill stopped, and worried ill stall, buck the car, or get it into gear at a higher RPM than desired.

Oh well...
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I haven't owned any cars that are automatic (only rental cars when I do work trips) and 1st and 2nd gear in this car is a bitch.
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I haven't owned any cars that are automatic (only rental cars when I do work trips) and 1st and 2nd gear in this car is a bitch.
Glad its not just me lol
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is this spring mod the same as doing the RJM clutch pedal?
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is this spring mod the same as doing the RJM clutch pedal?
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Just purchased the replacement spring from eBay, thanks for the help finding the spring guys!
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I'm going to be doing this mod tonight. I did it on my Mustang a few years ago and I know it's pretty straight forward.

Before I do, I have a couple quick questions.
1. Is there any downside to this? Yes I know, I'm sure someone asked and answered but I randomly looked through 4-5 pages of the 37 and didn't see anything with certainty.
2. Are people generally doing the removal or putting the softer spring in. I only did the removal on my last car.

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I'm going to be doing this mod tonight. I did it on my Mustang a few years ago and I know it's pretty straight forward.

Before I do, I have a couple quick questions.
1. Is there any downside to this? Yes I know, I'm sure someone asked and answered but I randomly looked through 4-5 pages of the 37 and didn't see anything with certainty.
2. Are people generally doing the removal or putting the softer spring in. I only did the removal on my last car.

TIA
I removed it completely.
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I tried the softer spring for a few weeks, didn't feel like it made a big enough difference in feel. Ended up deleting the spring and the entire spring carrier assembly from the pedal. I also adjusted the little threaded clevis where it attaches to the clutch pedal. Much better than the factory setup IMO, although I do plan to get an RJM pedal eventually, this is good enough for now.

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I removed it but didn't like the free end-play without any spring, so I found a much softer one to put back in.
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I removed it but didn't like the free end-play without any spring, so I found a much softer one to put back in.

Fair enough. It doesn’t bother me.


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