Everyone with oil temp issues

dad

No one should have to sit in traffic keeping an eye on the temperate gauge waiting for traffic to start moving! Even if it's for a "few minutes"! That overheating will catch up with you sooner or later!

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modme

But read the next line: "However any damage caused by the installation or use of this part is expressly excluded under the terms of the Nissan New Vehicle Limited warranty."

So if the dealership can somehow relate the issue to the oil cooler, you're still SOL.

mannyz

The funiest thing happened to me today. I reach the 3400 miles and decided to do the oil change at the dealer. Well I requested the Nissan Ester Engine Oil and first they didnt know WTF I was talking about, so they did calls, check in parts and finally came back telling me that it was $20 per Qt and labor, for a total of $140 O_O

So I said, no thanks lets use the Castrol Synthetic then. Which I end up paying anyways $98.00 -_-

But the funny thing is that before my oil change, my temp was always 220, unless when I have fun with the car it will jump to 240. Now after the oil change, my normal temperature is 240. WTF?

ZKindaGuy

This might be someting that we should all keep in the back of our mind to see if a pattern arises when using SYNTHS instead of Ester oil. We might find that if SYNTHS run the engine around the 240 range most of the time then this may have been the motivation behind Nissan recommending in their spec to use Ester oil. And if that is the case then:

1. Nissan definitely knew the oil issue existed.
2. Nissan recognized the issue to be significant enough to make the Ester oil use recommendation.
3. Nissan is covered in having provided a solution (the use of Ester oil) to the issue and thus mitigating any "negligence" issues that an owner might raise if their engine died as a direct root cause to the oil issue and they did not elect to use Ester oil as recommended by Nissan.
4. Nissan avoids a recall since they have provided a workable solution........
5. Nissan saves money by not having to do a recall.....and shifts the onus of paying for the solution to the customer....and Nissan makes money be recommending their own Ester oil as a solution.

Interesting....

wstar

I'm not too worried about the Nissan Ester thing myself. They didn't start recommending it as a "workaround" for the G37's VQ37VHR until people complained of VVEL noises, and then they later released an ECU fix that supposedly quieted things down without the special oil. Our owners manual recommends Nissan Ester Oil (in the same way that they recommend Nissan's own variant of every fluid in the car: diff oil, coolant, power steering fluid, etc - most of which are obviously not necessary), but they also are clear in the service manual that any API SM-rated oil of the appropriate weight is fine.

To top it all off, most of the reports here from people going to dealerships for oil changes indicate that the dealerships have no clue about the Ester oil, and are all too happy to put in whatever their favorite random synthetic is.

If Nissan Ester were really necessary for this engine to function properly, they would've made a stronger case for it in the Service Manual, and made a note to all the dealerships about only using their special oil for oil changes on this car. Already thousands and thousands of random 370Z owners have had their first (and perhaps 2nd, 3rd) oil changes done by dealers without the special oil.

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mannyz

I completly agree, and now we are the one that have to pay the price of an accessory that should be installed from day one and if not they ripp you off with their new redesigned oil.

fuct

any pics of this part 21300-SS370?

mannyz

Well I dont mind using any other cheaper oil, but now after my first Oil Change, the Temp stays at 240, while before it was always 220, and unless I have fun with the car thats when it jump to 240. The hotter the oil the worst for the engine cause it will lose the viscocity faster. Now Im worried, but I wont pay another 20 per qt. I need to find a way to get that oil cheaper.

I guess Ill save the money for my next oil change and try the Nissan Oil and if I see the difference I will call Nissan directly again.

ZKindaGuy

At 240 you ar still at the low-end of safe. See the second-half (SYNTHS) of my chart at:

limp mode temp.

mannyz

Yes but now it means that my minimum temp is 240 instead of 220. I took it to the track the same day and after 3 straight passes I was now reaching 260, which I know is still safe, but I dont like that needle crossing to the other side of the tach =D

I guess Ill get use to it for now

ZKindaGuy

260 as you are pointing out is really on that line you have to be careful about. If I were yo since you seem to have an interst in the track, I would go for the oil cooler. It will add at least 25% of an extended life to the engine. That's a pretty return on the dollars spent for it when you consider the fact you race.

mannyz

I guess Im gona save money for that, cause the last thing I want is a new melted engine lol. But at the same time Im gona call Nissan again, and maybe talk to the dealer. I understand Nissan want us to protect our investment by buying their Oil but then, bring down the price dammit

Wally

Careful complaining to Nissan I have done enough for all of us and they just don't really care. After you talk to them your vin will be flagged in there database. I am sure my name has a big red flag and will be screwed when a warranty claim comes about. But if you decide to continue keep us informed with your success.

By the way for those concerned I have not heard from consumer reports or the states attorney generals office with the complaints that I have filed against Nissan. I filed the claim for misrepresentation of product sold not for the oil temp issue as many have pointed out limp mode is not a huge issue when granny shifting which is Nissan's definition of normal driving conditions.

ZKindaGuy

What exactly is your "misrepresentation" point as the basis of the complaint?

dad

Rep Point!

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