sagging clutch pedal
 

I have the same problem, but no loss of fluid. I have to pick the clutch pedal up with the back of my foot, but I still have most if not all of the clutch to shift with. Wondering if it's something else before I spend big bucks to drop the tranny....Anyone?:happydance:

I doubt it is. You're just getting lucky and the universe is given you time to get some cash together :)

I dont have a CSC failure yet, my car has only 6000 miles. Checked the reservoir and the fluid already has a nutty brown color to it. Should I flush the fluid and changed to a high temp one or is the CSC failure inevitable?.

For peace of mind I change out the reservoir fluid every oil change with a high temp dot 4.

Thanks
 

Thanks.....

So many of us have had this issue, for so many years now. Under warranty or not, it's a potential safety issue and I encourage everyone with a failed CSC to file a complaint at the NHTSA site, and use keywords like "Loss of control" "potential for injury / harm / death" "negligence" as I did. It takes 10 minutes. Leave the anger of the bad dealership experience out of the report and focus on the keywords. Nissan has been deliberately non-responsive to improve the part because it is SO expensive to pay the dealership to drop the transmission and replace this stupid plastic POS. And just because it's not a Taketa airbag exploding and causing harm doesn't mean that one of us Z-lovers out there won't hurt ourselves or a loved one when this Fu*&ing part fails at highway speed during an emergency maneuver. Love my car, but doubt I'll ever spend this kind of $ on a Nissan again.

Add me to the list

2015 nismo
20,800 miles
Drive to work fine and after my shift I go in the car to start it and clutch pedal has no resistance at all and it returns up by itself.

Able to start car but not able to go into gear

That sounds more like you're out of clutch fluid. Most CSC failures that I've read on here went down and stayed down.

This seems to be happening to my 2010. First symptoms were after a weekend of sitting in the garage. Monday morning at oh dark thirty clutch depresses a long ways before about an inch of resistance and disengagement. I drive to work in a mental fog and wonder if this is how it has been for the 36k miles Ive driven. I get home, resevoir is empty...fill it with some fluid, start it, drive it around, seems better. Same if not worse this morning, fluid is full. Its 5 and a half with 36,200 miles on it. How much is this gonna cost? I got some aftermarket lifetime powertrain, engine and tranny warranty the dealership gives out as their gimmick. I doubt it will cover.
What Ive gathered is to buy the 100 dollar aftermarket online, Love to have a link, have the stealership drop the tranny to replace? This is gonna get steep.
Already had to do the steering lock hack when I yanked the fuse out. I know its almost 6 but being a 2 seat in a family of 4, it literally hauls my butt back and forth to work 12 miles round trip. Now to vent on the 100k pathfinder with a timing chain you can hear from space

Edit: Since there was zero fluid in the res, Im sure there is an air bubble to be found? Bleed the system see if it buys me some more time? Better fluid etc or just throwing good after bad

Begvis

So the clutch went down today...still a bit movement on it, but I pumped it a few times and then it came back up. Clutch fluid or should I be worried about upcoming failure of my CSC? 2013 36k miles on it, i've got the rjm clutch pedal.

kthxbai.

Your csc is failing. I ordered a hd version from z1 and had a shop install it. Was 360 for part and 495 labor. Said the bellhousing had all my clutch fluid and showed me where csc failed.

Begvis

Blah, don't really want to shell out $ if warranty covers it, power train is 5yr 60k, might just go that way.

If you can get them to fix it under powertrain, good job. Seems like most on here cant get it covered except under 3/36. Nissan did tell me when he was quoting price that he would put the same part in and it would most likely fail again. He suggested i buy the heavy duty and have nissan install it. Ofc you would be on the hook for the better part, minus their cost of the stock part, but if you can get them to pay for labor...well done.
If you do have the same symptoms as me. You most likely have an undrivable z as i type. From first symptoms to total doa, was 10 miles
B

Not sure if it is the CSC, hasn't reappeared since last week, I drive 60-100 miles+ every day.

Mine just went out at 63,000 miles. I had the powertrain preferred Nissan warranty. Warrranty specifies that it includes transmission casing and all internal parts. They said that the part was in the bellhousing not the transmission case.-($$$) There is no exclusion or mention of the clutch's hydraulic system throughout the warranty. When I bought the warranty from the dealership I specifically asked them that my warranty cover this failure......it fails then they dont cover it. Ugh, I did my research and still got F'd in the A.

Is this the warranty you have?

https://owners.nissanusa.com/content...s/Extended.pdf

https://owners.nissanusa.com/content...ge%20Guide.pdf

Search for item 30620 in the 2nd pdf. That's the clutch slave. Never heard of a preferred Nissan warranty. Is this back by nissan or a third party dealer warranty?

Rather than taking their word for it, look over the terms of your warranty. If it's not in the exclusions, it should be covered.

Edit: I see you're in chicago, which dealer did you buy from?

edit2: Found this, http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...Powertrain.pdf

I think this is what you have, right?

Your dealer really needs to bat for you. The slave, while not an internal part of the manual trans, is none the less part of the transmission on a manual car. The MT car does not have a torque converter, vacuum modulator, etc.

Contact nissan NA and bitch about this. If it's not covered it should be clearly spelled out as a non covered item like the clutch friction disc is (item 8.2 in the pdf I linked above).

Everything you stated I have done. Roy from Nissan Consumer Affairs basically told me it isn't covered. I have a Nissan Security + warranty. It is the 3yr/36k powertrain preferred warranty. I'll post a copy of it here later. This contract that was sold to me by Ann Arbor Nissan. They charged me $1252 and never logged it into the system. When I tried to get the car serviced last year in Chicago they told me there wasn't a warranty. I got in touch with Nissan consumer affairs last year and they said they had straightened it out.The warranty shows up in the database, but nevertheless their reply was" Your warranty doesn't cover that". My first warranty claim is denied. I have no other recourse other than to go after the dealership for damages......which I'm beginning the process of.

You should just point Nissan USA to the CSC failure thread and SHOW them how ALL 370Z's with manual trannies have failed CSCs!!

check it, from Nissan USA on FB.

Our socal media page is getting more attention, but Nissan still didn't take any action.
People buying 370z are risking to be enslaved into concentric loops of talking to consumer affairs and dealerships and the best way to get out so far is to buy HD cylinder and expose the situation.
https://www.facebook.com/Nissan-Conc...4563461609835/

Hello all,

First time to the club and first time z owner. Just bought new 370 2 weeks ago everything works great. Reading all these posts about the CSC failure is stressing the crap out me. Is this happening to ALL the newest Z or is it just a few? I asked my dealer and he said he has seen some in for replacement but no too bad. Now I'm freakin not enjoying my car because every time I step on the clutch I waiting for failure. WTF. is the zSpeed HD CSC A SURE fix? I figured I'd drive it until the stock one fails twice then bail and pay for the aftermarket HD or even the elimination kit...I love this car...but now I don't want to drive it..ugggghhh

Enjoy your car, i got hit by the servo steering lock problem then the csc. It sucks but wouldnt lose sleep over what may or may not happen in the future. As far as Z1 goes, id say it seems like the right fix. When I called local Nissan getting an estimate he told me, its 170 for the stock part, but its the same part that broke before and would break again. What he would do if it was his car is buy the z1 and have nissan install it...
When your service managers are advertising for z1 and not there own part, that speaks volumes. I told him thanks for his honesty, again (he gave me a low down on wife's pathfinder timing chain issue )

Edit, just say you said you would have it break 2x before upping to HD. If its under warranty replace it with z1 and have nissan eat the labor. You may be out 360 now but second time it fails and outta warranty its gonna be a grand

Yeah I think that's good advice. Especially about enjoying the car! Was looking at the warranty info and looks like the 3 yr 36k is the most I can use. I was hoping the power train warranty covered it but it is excluded. I bought the 100k extended warranty and that excludes it as well. Think I will buy the zSpeed HD now and have it on hand so when this one craps out I will have dealer use it Insted as you suggest. And start saving a grand for after the warranty.

out of two brand new Nismo Techs a 2015 and now a 2016, neither CSC lasted beyond 4,000 miles. As long as it's under warranty, Nissan can keep replacing them. I'll consider a Z1 after...

Found this TSB from Nissan, and it's posted on the NHTSA site. Searched for 2012 370Z "Manufacturer Communications." it's BS.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...51926-2342.pdf

just dropped my 40th anniversary z at the dealer. i had an extended warranty, and this was covered. should get it back tommorow afternoon.

My 2014 is in the shop for what appears to be this issue. Looking forward to getting the word back from the shop to make it official.

**edit its official**

2014 touring with 25.5k on it.

Although they called it the throwout bearing and the CSC is attached to that and is being replaced as well.

5/3/2016 - 2012 base 370z CSC died at 36k miles ='[ Not under warranty and just spent 1049 bucks at SP engineering.... </3

My NHTSA Complaint # 10864276

Alright fellas. It is now my turn. My clutch went all the way down to the floor. I was able to slightly **** into gear but the clutch slightly moves up. When I stopped my car to start up again. It seems to be okay. Then the clutch begins to stick to the floor again.

I'm in the Los Angeles area. Anyone recommend a shop where I can get it fixed or upgraded? I don't want to deal with this again. Also should I upgrade flywheel or anything else? I definitely drive my car hard. :-)

Here go get this
.SZ Clutch & Flywheel Kits for Z33 (07-08), Z34 & V36
This includes the clutch, flywheel, and upgraded CSC w/ SS lines. Parts and labor is around $2200

The 370 Z is a **** Car! Mine blew out the CSC last year. I replaced the CSC with a "so called" Heavy Duty Version. I even replaced the Master Clit h assembly, added heat shield lines.... 7 months later it F*cks up again! Z are **** !

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Z manuals are worthless!

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I did not drive my Z hard. Just a short trip to beach (150 miles), 55-65mph. I am not pleased that a CMC, HD-CSC fail so easy! I was using GTR Fluid & insulated lines ... Poor design on manual shift Z's. I will repair than sell Z asap!

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My CSC and MSC failed at 41000 and same run around about not covered. Where exactly does it say these parts are not covered?

For me the money isn't the issue, my issue is that I bought the car used and made sure I still had warranty only to find out they never intended to honor the warranty. The powertrain warranty covers the transmission. The exclusion list doesn't name the MSC or the CSC or hell even the clutch or brakes.

Finally their reasoning is "my driving" but I all my driving is long road trips and stop and go traffic. Given this reason they said that maybe it was the previous owner in which case it still is not covered (aka maybe we sold you a broke car whoops). I'm still completely confused about how any driving level can damage a hydraulic system but that's besides the point. No where in the warranty are those parts excluded and their reasoning is overly convenient and general BS.

TLDR I'm calling a lawyer tomorrow that specializes in suing manufactures over warranties and sales contracts so we'll see how that works out.

Others have tried. Good luck!

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I'm done with Nissan. Selling my Z after CSC & CMC repairs and swearing off the Nissan brand.

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I don't blame you. Good luck with the sale.

Not sure how they wouldn't be successful. Looking at all the papers they gave me when they sold me the car. They have nothing to stand on. Their 2013 warranty booklet also gives them nothing. Those parts are absolutely covered.

So has your CSC been ok? Also at how many miles were you when you installed the RJM pedal?

I had a failure i'm not 100% sure but Joe@Zspeed said it could be CSC and i'll explain why.
My car been sitting a year under a cover with battery disconnected since i'm away and i have trust issues handing over my 370z key to ANYONE :D.
After doing an oil change i drove my car around for a day or two and i noticed my clutch pedal feels spongy. It happened to me before and after driving for a while it goes back to normal usually. I was like " Yea man it's not a biggie"
Anyway after driving for few hours the pedal feel got super spongy and it won't go into any gear! I parked it waited for 15 mins then i tried slamming the knob into 2nd and it did. Kept driving home and got on the phone with Joe@Zspeed and he suspect it's CSC failure.

Ordered Zspeed CSC, Clutch and Master Cylinder. I'm still waiting for my parts to arrive from OH to Qatar... Shipping is a pain in the a$$. When you live 8000 miles away from the source.
After doing some research i've seen that symptoms of bad CSC would be leaking of clutch oil. Upon inspection the Master Cylinder seems to be above the max!! so i have oil for sure. I kept checking underneath the car everyday! I don't see a single oil dot.

However, when i turned the car on today to keep the battery charged. It seems that it engages in all gears! IT HEALED IT SELF! I haven't driven the car yet. since i ordered the parts. But what could it be? Any clue ? Could the system oil had boiled and it had air and now its fine? Hmmmm it's very weird indeed. I hate to take my tranny off if an oil flush or a new master cylinder could be the fix.
I've been thinking.... Letting your car sit for a year could mean that my clutch oil absorbed water and got contaminated. That's why i got the spongy feel and that's why my clutch fluid is above the max mark. is that possible?