The pedal feel is stiffer. Before the pedal was very easy to press to the floor...it didn't flop,but there wasn't a lot of resistance. Also the engagement point was very low, towards the bottom of the pedal and the engagement area was fairly wide. Now, engagement is more towards the middle and the area of engagement is much smaller. This was the original clutch with 70k miles on it as well.

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That's the one I have

I noticed the same thing, with the clutch being stiffer.

I've been reading this thread all my 20K miles I've driven my Z and I may have missed the answer but has anyone had Nissan pay for this under warranty?...or as a preventive maintenance?....

Lots of people have had the dealer cover it. If you're "lucky" enough for it to fail before 3 years or 36K miles, then the dealer covers it. Otherwise, you're on your own.

I replaced mine as preventative maintenance. I had 51K miles on the stock CSC (still good) when I installed the Z1 kit. I did the install in my garage on jack stands; I didn't have any issues, but I don't recommend it.

Also covered if you have the extended warranty.

My car is at service center. Nissan consumer affairs told me they never heard about CSC problem with 370z. So angry about their ignorance. Someone profit-smart guy decided to deal with each CSC-buddy individually despite Nissan reputation. I wanna make a single page website and warn new Z buyers about CSC problem and how Nissan USA deals with it. Long live the Z!
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...psfowzkjhs.jpg

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

Lol that's awesome! :bowrofl:

I will make this page, combining all condensed info on CSC failures and Nissan responses.
For those who loves Z but not satisfied with US service please welcome your ideas.

Got a Z? Join the club of concentric slaves!!!
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...psg6jqaw4t.jpg

please share your ideas on landing page here:
https://www.facebook.com/Nissan-Conc...b_address&view

I didn't buy the extended warranty but when they start offering it before mine expires I will see what will cost vs the actual cost of the CSC....are there any particular symptoms or warnings that lead you to believe it will happen or is like a heart attack no warning :driving:

It's about $700 to have it done without warranty using OEM parts...

The first time only warning I got was the pedal didn't immediately pop back up once, Then a few months later it just went out when I pressed the clutch pedal down get rolling.

2nd time, I felt the clutch pedal sinking with each press so I limped it home and it died in the garage.

Extended warranty Nissan offers doesn't cover CSC failure.
Nissan Concentric slaves.
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...pswn9iyvhn.jpg

What in that facebook link indicates extended warranty doesn't cover csc failure?

Here's the brochure for the infiniti elite care.

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See page 9/16, look for item #'s 30610, 30620.

I can't imagine nissan's extended warranty being any different.

Please like the facebook page I mentioned here for this matte and share your stories and pics/

That pic is awesome except few will know what a CSC is, even if they drive a manual. I'd change that to Clutch Slave Failure (2 lines).

Ok, good point! I will do 2 lines.
Also I made a digital stamp to put above user photos of their cars.
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/...ps456qopzi.gif

When I purchased the car from Nissan of Clovis it had less than 30K miles
they told my extended warranty they offer is a better choice than Nissan certification, so I followed.
Its called "fist extended service corporation" which has a rating of solid 1 star at any review website you can google for!

^^So you got a third party extended warranty? If so, then terms will vary for sure.

Edit: Really what i'm bothered by is why this isn't covered under powertrain. The clutch is part of the transmission and the clutch pedal is part of the clutch. I'd love to know what possible reason nissan NA can give why this isn't a covered part. BS IMO.

I got "first extended service" extended warranty - they don't cover it, considering it wear and tear item. I am terminating my contract with them and don't recommend to anyone.

As for Nissan consumer affairs (CA representative) - decision to approve the warranty coverage of this part is up to them. In my case they decided not to cover it and also saying its first time they hear of this part failure.

I changed to Zspeed HD cylinder and installed it at Z car garage,
Also I made a page to raise awareness of the problem:

https://www.facebook.com/Nissan-Conc...4563461609835/

Wear and tear!@#? Wow.

I guess they'll use any excuse to weasel out of paying a claim. I suppose a failed timing chain can also be considered wear and tear yet they're supposed to last the life of the car (in this application, some cars you do have to periodically replace the timing *belt*). Just about anything can be considered wear/tear.

Back in feb of this year we bought a $1300 ariens snow blower. Getting the unit ready for winter few weeks ago I spotted an oil leak from the crank case cover. Not all ariens dealers do warranty work if the unit wasn't purchased from them. Fine. Found a shop that does.

The cause of the oil leak was loose crank case cover bolts (several I suspect). They call up to let me know the repair is done and because it's not covered under warranty I'll have to pay for the repair. Ok. I drove over there and them point out to me exactly what was tightened. We got into a debate over how that could possibly not be a warranty issue. The defect was due to poor workmanship in assembly of the engine. Eventually they agreed to waive charges just to get me out of there. Fine.

I was bothered by this so called the manufacturer when I got home. After they spoke with the shop, it was confirmed this was indeed a warranty repair. My guess is the shop was trying to double dip. Get their warranty reimbursement and have the customer pay. In the end, the repair cost nothing and neither did the pickup/drop off fee which I was fully prepared to pay.

To add insult to injury, when they dropped it off, I ran it for a bit only to find a thin line of oil still present. I didn't sign off on it and it went back to the shop. They cleaned it up good this time and ran it for an extended length of time. In addition the shop mgr inspected it (or so they say) before they called me to say it's ready to go.

So not only did they get caught red handed in the cookie jar, they had to absorb two transports.

I'm still bothered by this but am really not surprised. If I was less knowledgeable about all this the fees would be paid and I would be ecstatic to have my blower back (as it's snowing right now and 2-8" are promised around here).

PS. I wonder if a decal of the above could be made. I bet some would be willing to stick it on their car.

wear and tear??....my 1st brand new 1981 Toyota Celica GT had 330k miles with the same clutch as well as my second brand new 1987 Civic Si with 220k, the rest of my cars were traded with at least 40k on the odometer, bought brand new and all but one were standard transmissions, now if something happens to the Z which again bought it brand new with 80 miles from a dealer as a 2013 leftover in 2014, I guess Mark E.Salomon will be on my quick dial...:driving:

I picked up a used 2015 Nismo and immediately bought the Zspeed HD replacement and a new MC w/ insulated line

How much are people typically spending on labor for this?

Labor rate quotes run between 5 to 6 hours.

so anywhere from $400 - 600+

just depends on what the shop is charging per hour

Payed around 800$ for changing CSC, master cylinder,flywheel, clutch

If I remember correctly, I spent about $700 that was everything plus an upgraded clutch & flywheel.

I guess the magic is find the path to the person who has responsibility (cares).
Its obvious Nissan has to recall the slave cylinder or replace it,
but they did the maths and decided otherwise. The only way to object is make this well known - even hit Nissan marketing in Japan. Also if the facebook page gets popular, they will have to act.

I see this as numbers, there are s few Z's at least in my neck of the woods that why bother to recall "all" manuals"..let us bring our broken horses to Nissan and they will claim we did it ourselves since we beat on our Z's. I will subscribe to this topic and will bring it up to the dealer the last day my warranty expires and ask the manager where do I stand....I will too lawyer up and have record of this ordeal others are going thru...no worries...:tiphat:

Aw, crap, my "new to Me" 2012 Roadster with 10K miles just had clutch fail. It's gonna take me all night to read 96 pages on this thread! LOL

Dropped at Sacramento Nissan today. Pray for me that I got a service guy/dealership who won't make me jump thru hoops to get it fixed right. Sigh....

Facebook Page? Name? Link? TIA.

Add me to the list now - just over 5100 KM/3200 miles and dealer confirmed CSC is gone. Going in to get a loaner car today and to see if I can get a Zspeed installed instead.

sorry bro :shakes head:

:shakes head:Sorry to see your news about CSC.

I think the loose flywheel is a result of improper installation. The leaky csc is due to failed part (poor design).

I suppose on the plus side, you're lucky the loose flywheel didn't do additional engine/trans damage. For example, every time the engine loads and unloads, it would knock. Hear any strange noises before?

Throw me on the list. 09 Touring with 41k on the clock. My question is how long will the stock clutch last? I doubt I'll have this car past 70-80k. Will the stock clutch last that long? I'm just trying to decide whether to change the clutch when I change the CSC or save the cash and leave the stocker in there.