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MagmaRed370z 09-24-2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3316641)
So apparently nissan didnt have any csc's..... said I was going to call corporate and they magically found one

Bastards...!:ugh2:

lhinojos 09-25-2015 12:56 AM

quick question, Im looking to upgrade the clutch so I wanna change the csc while im in there. Which csc and cmc combo i the most reliable availible?

EzDz 09-25-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 3317053)
quick question, Im looking to upgrade the clutch so I wanna change the csc while im in there. Which csc and cmc combo i the most reliable availible?

I was told by my mechanic the z1 elimination csc kit was the best but its expensive/ hard to install

lhinojos 09-25-2015 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3317280)
I was told by my mechanic the z1 elimination csc kit was the best but its expensive/ hard to install

Does that change clutch feel at all? Also I think I remember reading something about the csc elimination kit having some issues with vertical clutch/flywheel combos?

EzDz 09-25-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 3317301)
Does that change clutch feel at all? Also I think I remember reading something about the csc elimination kit having some issues with vertical clutch/flywheel combos?

I would imagine its the same feel, the kit comes with a selection of clutches that are compatible too

JARblue 09-25-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3317280)
I was told by my mechanic the z1 elimination csc kit was the best but its ... hard to install

Dropping the transmission is by no means an easy job, but the Z1 CSCEK install is no more difficult than a clutch install (it is easier, actually). I would venture a guess that your mechanic is incompetent :twocents:

I did the install with the help of a more mechanically inclined friend than myself along with a $120 transmission jack from Harbor Freight that I'll never use again. Neither one of us had ever dropped a transmission before, but he was confident and took the lead. We did it on jack stands in my garage with both our tools over the course of a weekend (two full days). Had it installed and test driven and adjusted by 7 pm on Sunday evening.

I wouldn't want to do it again, but if we had to I bet we could shave 4 hours or more off the time it took us initially.

eastwest2300 09-25-2015 02:22 PM

Yup, I wouldnt attempt something like this myself, no way.. I'd bring it a mechanic that knows what the hells going on.

2011_6Spd 09-28-2015 09:07 PM

I think I'm going to be added to this list as well. Driving down the interstate last night I lost clutch pressure and had to bring the pedal up myself once. Taking the car to the dealership tomorrow to find out what's up. I'm at 41.5k miles not really ready to spend over $1k for this because of a crappy design.

firulice 09-28-2015 10:17 PM

Welcome to the club! Expect them to switch out to gtr fluid, make you feel better and then get ready for a tow truck. I'd add roadside or AAA tomorrow :)

2011_6Spd 09-29-2015 07:45 PM

They didn't find any leaks and recommended I go with the GTR fluid flush. I did that but could tell the clutch pedal still felt weak when pushing it in a few times on the ride home though not like it was before the fluid flush. Was there a recommended interval to flush the clutch? I don't recall seeing that in the service interval but it does use dot3 brake fluid which is recommended for replacement every 2 years or so on the brakes. And the service advisor said it may be covered by the 5/60k powertrain depending on what they find once the tranny is opened but that is $800+.

MagmaRed370z 09-30-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011_6Spd (Post 3319459)
They didn't find any leaks and recommended I go with the GTR fluid flush. I did that but could tell the clutch pedal still felt weak when pushing it in a few times on the ride home though not like it was before the fluid flush. Was there a recommended interval to flush the clutch? I don't recall seeing that in the service interval but it does use dot3 brake fluid which is recommended for replacement every 2 years or so on the brakes. And the service advisor said it may be covered by the 5/60k powertrain depending on what they find once the tranny is opened but that is $800+.


This is a band aid. You WILL have problems in the future and the anxiety of being stranded. Sorry to put it this way but you need an HD Zspeed CSC and a new OEM CMC + new fluids.

sunkist350z 10-01-2015 12:15 AM

If Nissan does not fix this crap I may have to hold of driving my Z and trading it in for the up coming Mazda RX9(yes the rotary will be back). I have 18k currently on my z my previous 07hr z clutch gave out at 38k.

jwick 10-01-2015 02:54 AM

They aren't going to fix it. The same issue has been happening for years with no action from them. It ain't going to change now.

njobe89 10-02-2015 02:16 PM

i say we should go on facebook and flood their page on there every day till they do something about it. doesn't take but a minute to write and post. we should also try getting our local news station involved. until you make a movement this won't be addressed or fixed. with all the recalls going on now, this would be the perfect time to create a storm

BamBamZ 10-03-2015 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3321364)
i say we should go on facebook and flood their page on there every day till they do something about it. doesn't take but a minute to write and post. we should also try getting our local news station involved. until you make a movement this won't be addressed or fixed. with all the recalls going on now, this would be the perfect time to create a storm

I always post something pertaining to the CSC every time they mention the 370z... I see a few other people doing it too from time to time.

firulice 10-03-2015 11:26 AM

When you do, post a link and we'll all chime in too

HulaGirl 10-04-2015 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3321364)
i say we should go on facebook and flood their page on there every day till they do something about it. doesn't take but a minute to write and post. we should also try getting our local news station involved. until you make a movement this won't be addressed or fixed. with all the recalls going on now, this would be the perfect time to create a storm

I've fixed a couple of issues using Twitter (yeah, I know it sounds silly) but it really has been effective in speeding up the communications process. I was even able to get non-refundable airline tickets refunded when I could not take a trip due to Superstorm Sandy.

njobe89 10-05-2015 06:40 AM

2013 BS, 36,523 miles

now i have to argue with nissan to get it replaced under the drive train warranty since my 3/36,000 is out.

njobe89 10-05-2015 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HulaGirl (Post 3322366)
I've fixed a couple of issues using Twitter (yeah, I know it sounds silly) but it really has been effective in speeding up the communications process. I was even able to get non-refundable airline tickets refunded when I could not take a trip due to Superstorm Sandy.

social media can make or break some companies now.

Nixin 10-05-2015 08:02 AM

New Z guy here and I cannot believe that Nissan has NOT been able to get to the root cause of this issue. The model has been out for almost 7 years and still no factory fix. That is just BS!

sunkist350z 10-05-2015 12:00 PM

This crap has been happening since 07-08 hr z.

MagmaRed370z 10-05-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3322797)
This crap has been happening since 07-08 hr z.


Yup, but at least they recalled it with the 350s

BamBamZ 10-05-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3322562)
social media can make or break some companies now.

Added you to the list #108.

Add Nissan to your liked pages and what I do, Every time they post something about the 370z mention the CSC.

https://www.facebook.com/nissanusa/p..._t=photo_reply

BoneZ 10-05-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BamBamZ (Post 3323157)
Added you to the list #108.

Add Nissan to your liked pages and what I do, Every time they post something about the 370z mention the CSC.

https://www.facebook.com/nissanusa/p..._t=photo_reply

I added my two cents there.

njobe89 10-06-2015 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BamBamZ (Post 3323157)
Added you to the list #108.

Add Nissan to your liked pages and what I do, Every time they post something about the 370z mention the CSC.

https://www.facebook.com/nissanusa/p..._t=photo_reply

yeah i did that yesterday lol

eastwest2300 10-06-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3322561)
2013 BS, 36,523 miles

now i have to argue with nissan to get it replaced under the drive train warranty since my 3/36,000 is out.

sh1tty dude... I'm sorry bro... damn.

jwick 10-06-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3322561)
2013 BS, 36,523 miles

now i have to argue with nissan to get it replaced under the drive train warranty since my 3/36,000 is out.


Should be. It is part of the drive train but it is Nissan

pgga4 10-07-2015 02:31 AM

If I order a MY16, the car will have this problem?

sx moneypit 10-07-2015 06:52 AM

Unfortunately it will.It has the same crappy CSC as the older models.

pgga4 10-07-2015 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sx moneypit (Post 3324033)
Unfortunately it will.It has the same crappy CSC as the older models.

This affects all 370Zs? Or only some units?

sx moneypit 10-08-2015 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pgga4 (Post 3324488)
This affects all 370Zs? Or only some units?

All of them as far as i know.

MagmaRed370z 10-08-2015 07:09 AM

^ All Manual Transmissions 370Zs

2011_6Spd 10-12-2015 06:45 PM

Just an update over the last 2 weeks the clutch has felt fine though I still question what caused the loss in hydraulic pressure in a sealed system with no leaks.

ban25 10-13-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011_6Spd (Post 3327056)
Just an update over the last 2 weeks the clutch has felt fine though I still question what caused the loss in hydraulic pressure in a sealed system with no leaks.

Boiling the clutch fluid will do it. The fluid runs through an uninsulated rubber hose by the driver-side exhaust downpipe. It's easy to boil, especially DOT3.

EzDz 10-13-2015 12:43 PM

Nismos should use gtr fluid but you never know...... I had my csc replaced but my shifter slid too far to the right. Im at the dealer now and they asked me to drive another z to compare i said okay but i know mines off. This z has 6 miles. I made it 1/4 mile and felt clutch pressure go. I told the salesman its going im turning around. 6 miles 2016 370z touring has a failure.

kntrider 10-13-2015 02:46 PM

That is unacceptable!

I don't know how this is not a recall because it's very unsafe!

kntrider 10-13-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3323162)
I added my two cents there.

Great idea!

I have done the same!

Nixin 10-13-2015 03:19 PM

I guess this is like one of those mail in rebates. The manufacturer hope that the customers will not redeem the rebate. Generally, redemption rates are well below 1%. Nissan hopes that either nothing will happen with the CSC or that the Z owners will NOT complain about the CSC failing. If so, it is less than 1% and they will go quietly about their everyday business. If you ask me, they are simply taking the cowards way out.

RumbleFish 10-13-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3327391)
Nismos should use gtr fluid but you never know...... I had my csc replaced but my shifter slid too far to the right. Im at the dealer now and they asked me to drive another z to compare i said okay but i know mines off. This z has 6 miles. I made it 1/4 mile and felt clutch pressure go. I told the salesman its going im turning around. 6 miles 2016 370z touring has a failure.

That's messed up:shakes head:

eastwest2300 10-13-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EzDz (Post 3327391)
Nismos should use gtr fluid but you never know...... I had my csc replaced but my shifter slid too far to the right. Im at the dealer now and they asked me to drive another z to compare i said okay but i know mines off. This z has 6 miles. I made it 1/4 mile and felt clutch pressure go. I told the salesman its going im turning around. 6 miles 2016 370z touring has a failure.

daaaaaamn....:ugh2::ugh2::ugh2:


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