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eastwest2300 10-13-2015 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3327491)
I guess this is like one of those mail in rebates. The manufacturer hope that the customers will not redeem the rebate. Generally, redemption rates are well below 1%. Nissan hopes that either nothing will happen with the CSC or that the Z owners will NOT complain about the CSC failing. If so, it is less than 1% and they will go quietly about their everyday business. If you ask me, they are simply taking the cowards way out.

I'd agree.. I'm surprised no ones gone to the media about it.

2011_6Spd 10-17-2015 08:37 PM

I just don't see how even with a bad design a car with 6 miles could fail. I mean that part hasn't even been put under any stress. Perhaps sloppy assembly from the factory led to that one. Definitely would turn me off from buying a manual 370z with that experience though.

ramoszx12r 10-18-2015 04:49 PM

I love my 2016 Nismo but I fill like is a ticking boom that is ready to go of.
I have 540 miles on it. LOl

MagmaRed370z 10-25-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r (Post 3330309)
I love my 2016 Nismo but I fill like is a ticking boom that is ready to go of.
I have 540 miles on it. LOl

Its a matter of time

BamBamZ 10-25-2015 09:58 PM

Soo... Funny story. I ran some errands today, got a hair cut, got starbucks, did some shopping and so on. As I turned towards my little community my clutch pedal started to stay down at the catch point. I got it home and in my garage where I started pumping the clutch to see if I can get it to bounce back up... It did a little bit. Sitting for a while, I talked to one of my friends who lives a few blocks away and is a mechanic.

He came to look at it and the pedal is stuck back down almost to the floor and the reservoir is at the low mark now... I put 6k miles on the CSC and it seems to have failed yet again. I guess this time i'll pay the difference and get a metal one if it is the CSC. Going to have it towed back to my preferred shop as they warranty their work and part.

I have a single car garage and I park as close to the passenger side wall as possible, before I started it in first to see if I could roll it out of the garage and it stalled moving like a foot almost hitting the wall :(

Zrider79 10-25-2015 10:15 PM

Ya flood the page !

ramoszx12r 10-26-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3334899)
Its a matter of time

I Know By what I am reading on here. :bowrofl:

BamBamZ 10-26-2015 03:59 PM

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...psmabzoxsk.jpg

Becoming an all to familiar sight... I think when it gets fixed i'm going to go see what I can get for it on a trade for a new/newer Camry/Corolla, New Civic or new/newer Accord or something. Sofa king tired of Nissan...

The reservoir still had fluid in it when I rolled it out of the garage but there was a bit of a puddle of it on the garage floor and driveway then even more on the tow truck...

eastwest2300 10-26-2015 05:20 PM

damn, thats sh1tty bro, I'm sorry.

Zbrah 10-26-2015 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BamBamZ (Post 3335458)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...psmabzoxsk.jpg

Becoming an all to familiar sight... I think when it gets fixed i'm going to go see what I can get for it on a trade for a new/newer Camry/Corolla, New Civic or new/newer Accord or something. Sofa king tired of Nissan...

The reservoir still had fluid in it when I rolled it out of the garage but there was a bit of a puddle of it on the garage floor and driveway then even more on the tow truck...

I'm sorry to hear it happened to you again.

I check my fluid this morning and it's dirty, again.

Only 1500 miles since the last time I put new brake fluid in :(

synSyn-ackAck 10-27-2015 11:41 AM

Reporting in that My '12 370z has had this part fail TWICE.

Once at 8k miles, and again at 31K miles.

It's in the shop right now, getting the CSC replaced. Garbage.

I bit the bullet, bought the 350 dollar Z speed CSC, and having them install it.

JARblue 10-27-2015 11:42 AM

:ugh: first post :(

Go post up a nice picture of your Z :tup: :icon17:

Good choice on the upgrade :tiphat:

synSyn-ackAck 10-27-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3335971)
:ugh: first post :(

Go post up a nice picture of your Z :tup: :icon17:

Good choice on the upgrade :tiphat:



Yea, I'm a lurker. Fo sho.

Smashley 10-27-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by synSyn-ackAck (Post 3335970)
Reporting in that My '12 370z has had this part fail TWICE.

Once at 8k miles, and again at 31K miles.

It's in the shop right now, getting the CSC replaced. Garbage.

I bit the bullet, bought the 350 dollar Z speed CSC, and having them install it.

Who installed it and how much did they charge?:tiphat:

eastwest2300 10-27-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by synSyn-ackAck (Post 3335970)
Reporting in that My '12 370z has had this part fail TWICE.

Once at 8k miles, and again at 31K miles.

It's in the shop right now, getting the CSC replaced. Garbage.

I bit the bullet, bought the 350 dollar Z speed CSC, and having them install it.

damn, you'd hope a 3rd times a charm..

eastwest2300 10-27-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smashley (Post 3335986)
Who installed it and how much did they charge?:tiphat:

I use to live in NoVa, and I had mine replaced at AAM in Annapolis Junction, MD.. I didn't have a CSC failure but I upgraded to the Zspeed as a precaution. (roughly 7500 miles)

Knio 11-04-2015 11:08 PM

I had a track day today, and and the end of the 2nd session, the clutch stuck to the floor and stayed there. We bled/flushed the clutch with new DOT4 and that fixed it for the rest of the day, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if it were to die again tomorrow. The old clutch fluid was extremely dirty, so not confirmed CSC failure yet..

VIN: 502405
Mileage: 40k

I previously had a CSC failure 3 years ago, at about 18k miles, and it was replaced under warranty. I think I posed here then, but can't remember.

axmea? 11-05-2015 01:51 AM

Posted this on my page as well. This is my 2nd CSC failure. First one was at 12k mi and this time it was just under 60k mi.

So last night I sensed a noticeably different and much lighter feel on my clutch pedal (clue #1). Checked CSC and topped it off (clue#2). Today I hesitantly drove it to work and sure enough, the pedal bottomed out while on the freeway and managed to steer the car to the side. I planned for it by taking a bungee cord along with me. Strapped the cord to the pedal and held it on my left hand while holding onto the steering. Right hand to switch gears. Drove it 7.5 miles using this technique through freeway traffic and on surface traffic until i got to Specialty Z. This by the way is my 2nd incident. No big deal. Knowing how it is, I was not upset but rather prepared and ready to handle it.

The good news.....They have parts!!!!!! Picked up the Maxx Street clutch flywheel combo with the Tilton slave. The other good news, they drove me to work on Greg's Cayenne. Great service. Seb was out. He and his wife had a baby over the weekend. Car was in the shop until 4:45. Thanks L.J.!

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Beware -- if you experience failure and somehow manage to get it back to normal by topping it off, it does not mean it is fixed or it is ok. The leak may be slow or simply collected in the housing and not necessarily leaking out. The moment you feel softness or a change in pedal feel or keep on topping it off, it will be a matter time before it sinks to the floor. Take it to the shop before you break down.

Advice for those who has not experienced it or for anyone for that matter, have a bungee cord ready in your trunk. It will save you grief and get you to the shop/dealership safely.

sx moneypit 11-05-2015 06:58 AM

Good tip on the bungee cord ! I am going to throw one in my car just in case.

MagmaRed370z 11-05-2015 07:47 AM

Still amazed that Nissan doesn't give a rat's *** about this.

Knio 11-05-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3341393)

Advice for those who has not experienced it or for anyone for that matter, have a bungee cord ready in your trunk. It will save you grief and get you to the shop/dealership safely.

That doesn't sound like quite the the same problem.. When the CSC goes, there's no way to disengage the clutch no matter what position the pedal is in, so you can't shift normally. (can still clutchless shift, and start moving in 1st with the starter motor)

INeedaDoctor 11-07-2015 05:48 PM

Hey guys my car is 2009 at 16k. Should I replace the CMC as well while I have the transmission dropped? And if i do replace it, do you recommend I get an OEM or is there a better aftermarket one?

Zbrah 11-07-2015 06:23 PM

For the 10,000th times, replace CMC, and there are no aftermarket CMC only oem. Good luck.

Knio 11-07-2015 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by INeedaDoctor (Post 3343151)
Hey guys my car is 2009 at 16k. Should I replace the CMC as well while I have the transmission dropped? And if i do replace it, do you recommend I get an OEM or is there a better aftermarket one?

You don't need to drop the transmission to replace the CMC, just need to open the hood.

axmea? 11-08-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Knio (Post 3341746)
That doesn't sound like quite the the same problem.. When the CSC goes, there's no way to disengage the clutch no matter what position the pedal is in, so you can't shift normally. (can still clutchless shift, and start moving in 1st with the starter motor)

The struggle continued for 7.5 miles. :shakes head: The bungee saved me.

Knio 11-08-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3343261)
The struggle continued for 7.5 miles. :shakes head: The bungee saved me.

That's cool that it saved you :) do you have the details back yet / confirmed that it was the CSC?

axmea? 11-08-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Knio (Post 3343363)
That's cool that it saved you :) do you have the details back yet / confirmed that it was the CSC?

CSC replaced. Engagement was about 2 inches. Not going with OEM after 2 failures.

Zbrah 11-08-2015 01:39 PM

Wow, sorry to hear that Raf. I didn't catch it but which kit are you putting in this time and are you going to replace the CMC too?

OptionZero 11-08-2015 03:39 PM

I just picked up a 2015 Nismo w/ 21k miles on it. Clutch is fine now, but as a preventative measure i want to replace the CSC with the Zspeed unit

Has anyone who's used that had any issues with their dealer for any other warranty work?
As i understand it, the Zspeed unit is basically the same as stock but with better materials

enguyen88 11-08-2015 08:22 PM

Just curious. Everyone that has had their CSC replaced, how hard do you drive your car? What's daily driving conditions? Mostly city, freeway or weekend track car?

BamBamZ 11-10-2015 04:03 PM

freeway/city mixed... Not hard at all. I never launched or drove the replaced CSC hard in fear it would fail... it still failed.

axmea? 11-12-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3343378)
Wow, sorry to hear that Raf. I didn't catch it but which kit are you putting in this time and are you going to replace the CMC too?

Thanks David. Replaced it with a Tilton slave. It came with Specialty Z's clutch and flywheel combo. Master was in excellent shape. I knew sometime in July that it was going to fail a 2nd time and planned for its failure in September but lasted 'til Nov.

mashimello 11-13-2015 06:49 PM

CSC failed after 3000 miles I purchased the car from official Nissan dealership. California regional Nissan representative didn't approve warranty repairing and said he hears about such problem for first time! What a shame!

Zbrah 11-13-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3346412)
Thanks David. Replaced it with a Tilton slave. It came with Specialty Z's clutch and flywheel combo. Master was in excellent shape. I knew sometime in July that it was going to fail a 2nd time and planned for its failure in September but lasted 'til Nov.

Sounds good Raf. I'm interested in hearing your feed back on this set up after you break it in:tup:

mashimello 11-13-2015 08:35 PM

After reading this thread I was so pissed, Nissan told me they never heard about CSC problem with 370z. So angry about their ignorance. This pic of my Z will help them increase sales!https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1K...=w1514-h911-no

eastwest2300 11-14-2015 05:33 PM

your picture didn't load. :ugh:

Jinx101 11-14-2015 10:20 PM

My clakked out POS CSC...

Replaced with ZI HD CSC as well and new lines, master, flywheel and clutch. It's like night and day. So much better!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...114_133159.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...114_135200.jpg

zefaulter 11-15-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinx101 (Post 3347587)
My clakked out POS CSC...

Replaced with ZI HD CSC as well and new lines, master, flywheel and clutch. It's like night and day. So much better!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...114_133159.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...114_135200.jpg

Out of curiosity, what exactly is better? What has improved for your driving experience?

jwick 11-15-2015 08:08 AM

You bought the ZSpeed HD CSC or the Z1 Elimination Kit?

Jinx101 11-15-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3347657)
You bought the ZSpeed HD CSC or the Z1 Elimination Kit?

Correct, ZSpeed HDCSC...sorry was a long day.

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